[digiKam-users] V6 appimage on Linux 64bit issue with single click

[Stuart T Rogers]

I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE Tumbleweed 64
bit system.

I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I can only
single click on the image to go to a preview. In the past this had to be
a double click in line with my set up in KDE, yes I can select using the
text area but in my view all KDE applications must obey the system
settings and I have single click to select and double click to open or
activate. Also I find that if I change the setting for Thumbnail Click
Action to start Image editor I now need to double click to start the
Image editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.

This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a double
click for preview or to start the editor.

Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not in my
view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application I have which
overrules the KDE settings.

One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my icons
in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to get back my
Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that V6 added back and
set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to understand why a new version
messes with stuff like this in the digikamrc file which should be
preserved between releases.

Stuart
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[Maik Qualmann]

Okay, it's a shame that you do not just try for a time with the new behavior
and see if it might not be easier to work with it. I will undo the change...

Maik

Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 17:26:20 CET schrieb Stuart T Rogers:

> I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE Tumbleweed 64
> bit system.
>
> I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I can only
> single click on the image to go to a preview. In the past this had to be
> a double click in line with my set up in KDE, yes I can select using the
> text area but in my view all KDE applications must obey the system
> settings and I have single click to select and double click to open or
> activate. Also I find that if I change the setting for Thumbnail Click
> Action to start Image editor I now need to double click to start the
> Image editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.
>
> This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a double
> click for preview or to start the editor.
>
> Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
> provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not in my
> view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application I have which
> overrules the KDE settings.
>
> One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my icons
> in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to get back my
> Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that V6 added back and
> set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to understand why a new version
> messes with stuff like this in the digikamrc file which should be
> preserved between releases.
>
> Stuart

[Stuart T Rogers]

Maik

 I am not averse to having it as an option for those who like it, but I do think it is not right to have it as a the only setting or come to that set as default to override KDE settings. When you have KDE set the way I have it is completely counter-intuitive. It takes  some remembering especially as I don't use digikam every day and will probably confuse some folks where every other application follows the KDE setting.

Stuart

On 12 December 2018 17:30:53 GMT, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Okay, it's a shame that you do not just try for a time with the new
>behavior
>and see if it might not be easier to work with it. I will undo the
>change...
>
>Maik
>
>Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 17:26:20 CET schrieb Stuart T Rogers:
>> I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE Tumbleweed 64
>> bit system.
>>
>> I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I can
>only
>> single click on the image to go to a preview. In the past this had to
>be
>> a double click in line with my set up in KDE, yes I can select using
>the
>> text area but in my view all KDE applications must obey the system
>> settings and I have single click to select and double click to open
>or
>> activate. Also I find that if I change the setting for Thumbnail
>Click
>> Action to start Image editor I now need to double click to start the
>> Image editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.
>>
>> This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a double
>> click for preview or to start the editor.
>>
>> Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
>> provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not in
>my
>> view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application I have
>which
>> overrules the KDE settings.
>>
>> One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my
>icons
>> in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to get back my
>> Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that V6 added back and
>> set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to understand why a new
>version
>> messes with stuff like this in the digikamrc file which should be
>> preserved between releases.
>>
>> Stuart

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[AndriusWild]

I would not mind the single click preview actually...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Stuart Rogers <[hidden email]>

Date: 2018-12-12 10:42 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [digiKam-users] V6 appimage on Linux 64bit issue with single click

Maik

I am not averse to having it as an option for those who like it, but I do think it is not right to have it as a the only setting or come to that set as default to override KDE settings. When you have KDE set the way I have it is completely counter-intuitive. It takes  some remembering especially as I don't use digikam every day and will probably confuse some folks where every other application follows the KDE setting.

Stuart

On 12 December 2018 17:30:53 GMT, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Okay, it's a shame that you do not just try for a time with the new
>behavior
>and see if it might not be easier to work with it. I will undo the
>change...
>
>Maik
>
>Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 17:26:20 CET schrieb Stuart T Rogers:
>> I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE Tumbleweed 64
>> bit system.
>>
>> I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I can
>only
>> single click on the image to go to a preview. In the past this had to
>be
>> a double click in line with my set up in KDE, yes I can select using
>the
>> text area but in my view all KDE applications must obey the system
>> settings and I have single click to select and double click to open
>or
>> activate. Also I find that if I change the setting for Thumbnail
>Click
>> Action to start Image editor I now need to double click to start the
>> Image editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.
>>
>> This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a double
>> click for preview or to start the editor.
>>
>> Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
>> provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not in
>my
>> view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application I have
>which
>> overrules the KDE settings.
>>
>> One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my
>icons
>> in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to get back my
>> Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that V6 added back and
>> set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to understand why a new
>version
>> messes with stuff like this in the digikamrc file which should be
>> preserved between releases.
>>
>> Stuart

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[SkyDiver]

@Maik, out of curiosity: is this issue related to  bug #401709 (Double
clicking a name in a face-frame closes image preview)?

In any case, there are the double-click freaks on one side and the
single-click freaks on the other side.
This sounds like a classic user-preference-flag scenario.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:51 PM Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I would not mind the single click preview actually...
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Stuart Rogers <[hidden email]>
> Date: 2018-12-12 10:42 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [digiKam-users] V6 appimage on Linux 64bit issue with single click
>
> Maik
>
> I am not averse to having it as an option for those who like it, but I do think it is not right to have it as a the only setting or come to that set as default to override KDE settings. When you have KDE set the way I have it is completely counter-intuitive. It takes  some remembering especially as I don't use digikam every day and will probably confuse some folks where every other application follows the KDE setting.
>
> Stuart
>
> On 12 December 2018 17:30:53 GMT, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >Okay, it's a shame that you do not just try for a time with the new
> >behavior
> >and see if it might not be easier to work with it. I will undo the
> >change...
> >
> >Maik
> >
> >Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 17:26:20 CET schrieb Stuart T Rogers:
> >> I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE Tumbleweed 64
> >> bit system.
> >>
> >> I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I can
> >only
> >> single click on the image to go to a preview. In the past this had to
> >be
> >> a double click in line with my set up in KDE, yes I can select using
> >the
> >> text area but in my view all KDE applications must obey the system
> >> settings and I have single click to select and double click to open
> >or
> >> activate. Also I find that if I change the setting for Thumbnail
> >Click
> >> Action to start Image editor I now need to double click to start the
> >> Image editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.
> >>
> >> This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a double
> >> click for preview or to start the editor.
> >>
> >> Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
> >> provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not in
> >my
> >> view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application I have
> >which
> >> overrules the KDE settings.
> >>
> >> One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my
> >icons
> >> in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to get back my
> >> Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that V6 added back and
> >> set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to understand why a new
> >version
> >> messes with stuff like this in the digikamrc file which should be
> >> preserved between releases.
> >>
> >> Stuart
>
> --
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy J5 with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

[digikam-2]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:30:53 +0100
Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, it's a shame that you do not just try for a time with the new
> behavior and see if it might not be easier to work with it. I will
> undo the change...

Please do NOT undo the change!

I'm the guy that asked yesterday about the single click switching to
preview mode.

In my opinion, you should keep it as is, but, please make a note
that's where you have to click for the preview (on the thumbnail
itself) and where to click for the selection (the box around the
thumbnail)

A webpage with all the change in the behaviour would solve the vast
majority of behaviour problem.

sknahT

vyS

>
> Maik
>
> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 17:26:20 CET schrieb Stuart T
> Rogers:
> > I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE
> > Tumbleweed 64 bit system.
> >
> > I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I
> > can only single click on the image to go to a preview. In the
> > past this had to be a double click in line with my set up in KDE,
> > yes I can select using the text area but in my view all KDE
> > applications must obey the system settings and I have single
> > click to select and double click to open or activate. Also I find
> > that if I change the setting for Thumbnail Click Action to start
> > Image editor I now need to double click to start the Image
> > editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.
> >
> > This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a
> > double click for preview or to start the editor.
> >
> > Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
> > provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not
> > in my view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application
> > I have which overrules the KDE settings.
> >
> > One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my
> > icons in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to
> > get back my Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that
> > V6 added back and set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to
> > understand why a new version messes with stuff like this in the
> > digikamrc file which should be preserved between releases.
> >
> > Stuart  
>
>
>
>

--
sknahT

vyS

[Stuart T Rogers]

Sorry but I strongly disagree. This change if left as is completely makes digikam not compliant with KDE standards as I see it. At a minimum it requires this to be a user option. I have no problem with it being an option for those who like it but it is completely unacceptable to force it on everyone. I require it to be an option so that the users can chose which they want to use. How anyone can accept that preview is single click and editor is double is beyond me. Setting this as a user configurable option should in my view satisfy everyone.

Stuart

On 12 December 2018 19:01:23 GMT, [hidden email] wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:30:53 +0100
>Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Okay, it's a shame that you do not just try for a time with the new
>> behavior and see if it might not be easier to work with it. I will
>> undo the change...
>
>Please do NOT undo the change!
>
>I'm the guy that asked yesterday about the single click switching to
>preview mode.
>
>In my opinion, you should keep it as is, but, please make a note
>that's where you have to click for the preview (on the thumbnail
>itself) and where to click for the selection (the box around the
>thumbnail)
>
>A webpage with all the change in the behaviour would solve the vast
>majority of behaviour problem.
>
>sknahT
>
>vyS
>
>>
>> Maik
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 17:26:20 CET schrieb Stuart T
>> Rogers:
>> > I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE
>> > Tumbleweed 64 bit system.
>> >
>> > I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I
>> > can only single click on the image to go to a preview. In the
>> > past this had to be a double click in line with my set up in KDE,
>> > yes I can select using the text area but in my view all KDE
>> > applications must obey the system settings and I have single
>> > click to select and double click to open or activate. Also I find
>> > that if I change the setting for Thumbnail Click Action to start
>> > Image editor I now need to double click to start the Image
>> > editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.
>> >
>> > This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a
>> > double click for preview or to start the editor.
>> >
>> > Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
>> > provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not
>> > in my view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application
>> > I have which overrules the KDE settings.
>> >
>> > One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my
>> > icons in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to
>> > get back my Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that
>> > V6 added back and set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to
>> > understand why a new version messes with stuff like this in the
>> > digikamrc file which should be preserved between releases.
>> >
>> > Stuart  
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[Maik Qualmann]

@Sky Diver, your bug report is fixed.
The change has already been taken back, it was an attempt to make the workflow
smoother. If you want, you can set the single click in the system settings. I
do not want to build a second KDE Control Center from the digiKam settings to
inflating it with additional exception options.

Maik

Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 20:36:33 CET schrieb Stuart Rogers:

> Sorry but I strongly disagree. This change if left as is completely makes
> digikam not compliant with KDE standards as I see it. At a minimum it
> requires this to be a user option. I have no problem with it being an
> option for those who like it but it is completely unacceptable to force it
> on everyone. I require it to be an option so that the users can chose which
> they want to use. How anyone can accept that preview is single click and
> editor is double is beyond me. Setting this as a user configurable option
> should in my view satisfy everyone.
>
> Stuart
>
> On 12 December 2018 19:01:23 GMT, [hidden email] wrote:
> >On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:30:53 +0100
> >
> >Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Okay, it's a shame that you do not just try for a time with the new
> >> behavior and see if it might not be easier to work with it. I will
> >> undo the change...
> >
> >Please do NOT undo the change!
> >
> >I'm the guy that asked yesterday about the single click switching to
> >preview mode.
> >
> >In my opinion, you should keep it as is, but, please make a note
> >that's where you have to click for the preview (on the thumbnail
> >itself) and where to click for the selection (the box around the
> >thumbnail)
> >
> >A webpage with all the change in the behaviour would solve the vast
> >majority of behaviour problem.
> >
> >sknahT
> >
> >vyS
> >
> >> Maik
> >>
> >> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 17:26:20 CET schrieb Stuart T
> >>
> >> Rogers:
> >> > I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE
> >> > Tumbleweed 64 bit system.
> >> >
> >> > I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I
> >> > can only single click on the image to go to a preview. In the
> >> > past this had to be a double click in line with my set up in KDE,
> >> > yes I can select using the text area but in my view all KDE
> >> > applications must obey the system settings and I have single
> >> > click to select and double click to open or activate. Also I find
> >> > that if I change the setting for Thumbnail Click Action to start
> >> > Image editor I now need to double click to start the Image
> >> > editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.
> >> >
> >> > This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a
> >> > double click for preview or to start the editor.
> >> >
> >> > Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
> >> > provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not
> >> > in my view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application
> >> > I have which overrules the KDE settings.
> >> >
> >> > One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my
> >> > icons in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to
> >> > get back my Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that
> >> > V6 added back and set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to
> >> > understand why a new version messes with stuff like this in the
> >> > digikamrc file which should be preserved between releases.
> >> >
> >> > Stuart

[SkyDiver]

Thanks Maik.

Turns out I was looking into last week's beta3.
After downloading this week's new beta3 I can confirm that the bug is
fixed and the feature works as expected.

This version contains the new behavior that bugs Stuart Rogers and as
a long time Windows user that switched to Ubuntu,
I can confirm that a single-click where a double-click is expected is
indeed annoying :)

I already wrote this, but I'll write it again:
Having two builds with the same version tag (case in point:
6.0.0-beta3) leads to confusion.
Only today I realized why my beta3 behaves differently that other
people's beta3.

Not sure how this could be resolved in digikam, but I am certain that
this is solvable.


On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 10:08 PM Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> @Sky Diver, your bug report is fixed.
> The change has already been taken back, it was an attempt to make the workflow
> smoother. If you want, you can set the single click in the system settings. I
> do not want to build a second KDE Control Center from the digiKam settings to
> inflating it with additional exception options.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 20:36:33 CET schrieb Stuart Rogers:
> > Sorry but I strongly disagree. This change if left as is completely makes
> > digikam not compliant with KDE standards as I see it. At a minimum it
> > requires this to be a user option. I have no problem with it being an
> > option for those who like it but it is completely unacceptable to force it
> > on everyone. I require it to be an option so that the users can chose which
> > they want to use. How anyone can accept that preview is single click and
> > editor is double is beyond me. Setting this as a user configurable option
> > should in my view satisfy everyone.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > On 12 December 2018 19:01:23 GMT, [hidden email] wrote:
> > >On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:30:53 +0100
> > >
> > >Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> Okay, it's a shame that you do not just try for a time with the new
> > >> behavior and see if it might not be easier to work with it. I will
> > >> undo the change...
> > >
> > >Please do NOT undo the change!
> > >
> > >I'm the guy that asked yesterday about the single click switching to
> > >preview mode.
> > >
> > >In my opinion, you should keep it as is, but, please make a note
> > >that's where you have to click for the preview (on the thumbnail
> > >itself) and where to click for the selection (the box around the
> > >thumbnail)
> > >
> > >A webpage with all the change in the behaviour would solve the vast
> > >majority of behaviour problem.
> > >
> > >sknahT
> > >
> > >vyS
> > >
> > >> Maik
> > >>
> > >> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 17:26:20 CET schrieb Stuart T
> > >>
> > >> Rogers:
> > >> > I downloaded the latest today and ran it on my openSUSE
> > >> > Tumbleweed 64 bit system.
> > >> >
> > >> > I do not like the fact that it does not work like V5 in that I
> > >> > can only single click on the image to go to a preview. In the
> > >> > past this had to be a double click in line with my set up in KDE,
> > >> > yes I can select using the text area but in my view all KDE
> > >> > applications must obey the system settings and I have single
> > >> > click to select and double click to open or activate. Also I find
> > >> > that if I change the setting for Thumbnail Click Action to start
> > >> > Image editor I now need to double click to start the Image
> > >> > editor, this makes no sense and is counter-intuitive.
> > >> >
> > >> > This all worked well and logically in V5 in that it needed a
> > >> > double click for preview or to start the editor.
> > >> >
> > >> > Please change this back so it follows the KDE settings or at least
> > >> > provide an option for doing this, to overrule KDE settings is not
> > >> > in my view acceptable. Currently digikam is the only application
> > >> > I have which overrules the KDE settings.
> > >> >
> > >> > One final point is that running the appimage V6 has messed up my
> > >> > icons in V5 and no longer uses my system settings! In order to
> > >> > get back my Oxygen icons I had to remove the [Icons]Theme= that
> > >> > V6 added back and set the Icon Theme=oxygen again. I fail to
> > >> > understand why a new version messes with stuff like this in the
> > >> > digikamrc file which should be preserved between releases.
> > >> >
> > >> > Stuart
>
>
>
>