[digiKam-users] Move behavior

[Dennis Powless]

I am sorting images, moving from one folder to another within Digikam albums.  Every once in a while I get an error message that there is a copy already in the destination folder (I've been thru the duplicates feature already), well it seems the default behavior is to delete the file in the source automatically.  

I would like a warning and a choice to ignore the move before automatically deleting the file.

(my trash folder contains thousands and thousands of files and it takes far to long to view the file there to pull it out)

Dennis

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[Remco Viëtor]

On lundi 24 décembre 2018 15:09:46 CET Dennis Powless wrote:

> I am sorting images, moving from one folder to another within Digikam
> albums.  Every once in a while I get an error message that there is a copy
> already in the destination folder (I've been thru the duplicates feature
> already), well it seems the default behavior is to delete the file in the
> source automatically.
>
> I would like a warning and a choice to ignore the move before automatically
> deleting the file.
>
> (my trash folder contains thousands and thousands of files and it takes far
> to long to view the file there to pull it out)
>
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my iPhone

Just repeating a message won't really help ...

Sounds like this is something for the Digikam wishlist/buglist:
https://bugs.kde.org/component-report.cgi?product=digikam

But honestly, shouldn't you get rid of the trash every now and then?
"thousands and thousands of files" means indeed that you will never recover an
old file, so keeping them in your trash bin is just wasting disk space...

Remco

[claven123]

I originally sent the message, then it said it was held since I wasn't a member, thought I was.  So, I then re subscribed and since I didn't get a reply, I thought It was lost in the netherworld.  I then resent it once I was resubscribed and set up.  (which, I was again told I was not a member).  So, yes I know sending it twice will not really help in a normal situation, but when you know the rest of the story it makes more sense, right?  

Yes, I am planning on deleting the copies, but since I don't really know HOW digikam handles duplicates, I didn't want to delete the trash can images just yet.  I wasn't aware that digikam held them there, until I saw that (I'd assumed they would be in the OS trash, not the program trash).

I started with ~93K photos, over the last few weeks I've been sorting and sorting etc.... so will be deleting the trash soon.

Enough of that....

1. When a photo is moved from one album to the next and a duplicate is discovered, what happens to that file being moved.  I see a pop up that notes it's a duplicate.  Will that file be deleted?, will the process end with no action taken?

Thanks,

Dennis 

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 9:19 AM Remco Viëtor <[hidden email]> wrote:

On lundi 24 décembre 2018 15:09:46 CET Dennis Powless wrote:
> I am sorting images, moving from one folder to another within Digikam
> albums.  Every once in a while I get an error message that there is a copy
> already in the destination folder (I've been thru the duplicates feature
> already), well it seems the default behavior is to delete the file in the
> source automatically.
>
> I would like a warning and a choice to ignore the move before automatically
> deleting the file.
>
> (my trash folder contains thousands and thousands of files and it takes far
> to long to view the file there to pull it out)
>
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
Just repeating a message won't really help ...

Sounds like this is something for the Digikam wishlist/buglist:
https://bugs.kde.org/component-report.cgi?product=digikam

But honestly, shouldn't you get rid of the trash every now and then?
"thousands and thousands of files" means indeed that you will never recover an
old file, so keeping them in your trash bin is just wasting disk space...

Remco

[papertape]

Re: "... so will be deleting the trash soon."
I advise not being hasty to delete trash.  If it's bothering no one, leave
it.
You never know; The Image might be in your trash.
Of course, as a practical matter, eventually old trash loses its appeal.
But sometimes it is necessary to retrieve an old "backup" from trash.
(I once discovered gremlins or cosmic rays had corrupted files on one of my
disks.  Year-old backups restored the ones I wanted.  Not quite the same as
rummaging in a wastebasket, but not much different.)





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[Remco Viëtor]

On jeudi 27 décembre 2018 15:28:57 CET papertape wrote:
> Re: "... so will be deleting the trash soon."
> I advise not being hasty to delete trash.  If it's bothering no one, leave
> it.
> You never know; The Image might be in your trash.
> Of course, as a practical matter, eventually old trash loses its appeal.
> But sometimes it is necessary to retrieve an old "backup" from trash.
> (I once discovered gremlins or cosmic rays had corrupted files on one of my
> disks.  Year-old backups restored the ones I wanted.  Not quite the same as
> rummaging in a wastebasket, but not much different.)

Sorry, but very much different in my opinion:
- trash doesn't need any organisation, which makes recovery of the proper file
amongst a *large* number of items more difficult than it needs to be. Also, in
most cases the trash has a limited amount of space available, meaning older
items can disappear without warning (it's trash after all);
- backups are ment to be stored for a certain time, and to be recoverable when
needed. That implies permanency and organisation, so much easier and
guaranteed recovery (in theory).

Different purposes, so different tools.

Le 27/12/2018 à 15:28, papertape a écrit :
> Re: "... so will be deleting the trash soon."
> I advise not being hasty to delete trash.  If it's bothering no one, leave
> it.
> You never know; The Image might be in your trash.

I *never* rely on trash for nothing and always delete files (I'm on linux).

When it's necessary I do backups myself.

and I always setup the trash to be no more than 1% of disk.

relying on trash gives bad habits. For me, I know if I delete it's
deleted for good, so I think twice before :-)

jdd


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