[digiKam-users] "Legible themes"

[digikam-2]

DK 6.1 appimage on Leap 15.1 KDE

I'm having problem viewing some of the "extra stuff" in DK. I've
tried all the themes that come with DK without success.

I'm old. I'm looking for something clear that tells me where I am
on the screen

for example: with 'fusion grey' or 'grey card', I cannot see the
"thumb" (the part that moves up and down with the position on the
list)

I also like the 'color contrast' but it's also missing many items as
contrast and especially to see what is activated.

1. Is there some other themes to try?
2. Is there some way of modifying these themes to make it more
contrasty?

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[Maik Qualmann]

You mean the slider of the scrollbar? Which color theme did you set in Leap?

Maik

Am Montag, 8. Juli 2019, 23:06:45 CEST schrieb [hidden email]:

> DK 6.1 appimage on Leap 15.1 KDE
>
> I'm having problem viewing some of the "extra stuff" in DK. I've
> tried all the themes that come with DK without success.
>
> I'm old. I'm looking for something clear that tells me where I am
> on the screen
>
> for example: with 'fusion grey' or 'grey card', I cannot see the
> "thumb" (the part that moves up and down with the position on the
> list)
>
> I also like the 'color contrast' but it's also missing many items as
> contrast and especially to see what is activated.
>
> 1. Is there some other themes to try?
> 2. Is there some way of modifying these themes to make it more
> contrasty?

[Rafael Linux]

I agree. DK theme colors have accessibility lacks. I'm web developer and we use rules to avoid this situations. There are several sites in Internet where you can check the accessibility degree of your the colours you pretend to use. I don't know if KDE give developers tools to check the same for UIs.

El mar., 9 jul. 2019 8:16, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> escribió:

You mean the slider of the scrollbar? Which color theme did you set in Leap?

Maik

Am Montag, 8. Juli 2019, 23:06:45 CEST schrieb [hidden email]:
> DK 6.1 appimage on Leap 15.1 KDE
>
> I'm having problem viewing some of the "extra stuff" in DK. I've
> tried all the themes that come with DK without success.
>
> I'm old. I'm looking for something clear that tells me where I am
> on the screen
>
> for example: with 'fusion grey' or 'grey card', I cannot see the
> "thumb" (the part that moves up and down with the position on the
> list)
>
> I also like the 'color contrast' but it's also missing many items as
> contrast and especially to see what is activated.
>
> 1. Is there some other themes to try?
> 2. Is there some way of modifying these themes to make it more
> contrasty?

[Maik Qualmann]

One of the main problems, however, is that we can only provide the Fusion
Style in the AppImage. This does not draw many color gradations. Is good to
see on the bad visibility of the CheckBoxes. But other style engines like
Breeze need a lot of dependencies. In the end, the AppImage would be a second
desktop in scope. All color themes contained in digiKam already exist in the
world of KF5. Search or create a nice color theme under a KF5 desktop and we
will integrate it.

Maik

Am Dienstag, 9. Juli 2019, 10:13:51 CEST schrieb Rafael Linux User:

> I agree. DK theme colors have accessibility lacks. I'm web developer and we
> use rules to avoid this situations. There are several sites in Internet
> where you can check the accessibility degree of your the colours you
> pretend to use. I don't know if KDE give developers tools to check the same
> for UIs.
>
> El mar., 9 jul. 2019 8:16, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> escribió:
> > You mean the slider of the scrollbar? Which color theme did you set in
> > Leap?
> >
> > Maik
> >
> > Am Montag, 8. Juli 2019, 23:06:45 CEST schrieb [hidden email]:
> > > DK 6.1 appimage on Leap 15.1 KDE
> > >
> > > I'm having problem viewing some of the "extra stuff" in DK. I've
> > > tried all the themes that come with DK without success.
> > >
> > > I'm old. I'm looking for something clear that tells me where I am
> > > on the screen
> > >
> > > for example: with 'fusion grey' or 'grey card', I cannot see the
> > > "thumb" (the part that moves up and down with the position on the
> > > list)
> > >
> > > I also like the 'color contrast' but it's also missing many items as
> > > contrast and especially to see what is activated.
> > >
> > > 1. Is there some other themes to try?
> > > 2. Is there some way of modifying these themes to make it more
> > > contrasty?

[digikam-2]

Here's the screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/dTLd4YZ.jpg

1. Can't clearly see the left tab or the right tab
2. Can't clearly see the slider of the scrollbar
3. Don't really know which panel is active. Am I in the center (the
images) or on any of the left or the right panels?
4. Don't know which image I am on, so the
caption/metadata/properties... what do they relate to?

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:16:14 +0200
Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> You mean the slider of the scrollbar?

Yes

> Which color theme did you set
> in Leap?

It was breeze and today's oxygen. I tried them all, the one that come
with leap and not much difference.

>
> Maik
>
> Am Montag, 8. Juli 2019, 23:06:45 CEST schrieb
> [hidden email]:
> > DK 6.1 appimage on Leap 15.1 KDE
> >
> > I'm having problem viewing some of the "extra stuff" in DK. I've
> > tried all the themes that come with DK without success.
> >
> > I'm old. I'm looking for something clear that tells me where I am
> > on the screen
> >
> > for example: with 'fusion grey' or 'grey card', I cannot see the
> > "thumb" (the part that moves up and down with the position on the
> > list)
> >
> > I also like the 'color contrast' but it's also missing many items
> > as contrast and especially to see what is activated.
> >
> > 1. Is there some other themes to try?
> > 2. Is there some way of modifying these themes to make it more
> > contrasty?  
>
>
>
>

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vyS

[woenx]

Hey, now that you are discussing digikam themes, are these the same as the
Plasma Color Schemes that can be found here?
https://store.kde.org/browse/cat/112/

In theory I could add one of these ".colors" files in digikam, and it would
be listed in the themes menu, right? (I know I can't do that directly on the
appimage, but I could unpack and pack it with the file).

In that case, is there any color scheme editor for these files, or are they
created by hand? It would be then quite easy to try alternative schemes or
fine-tune existing ones.



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[Maik Qualmann]

Yes, just unzip to "/usr/share/digikam/colorschemes/". Does not work with the
AppImage. Of course, a KF5 desktop also has an editor. But they are simple
text files and easy to understand.
It should be possible to add the home directory as a search path. Then, color
themes under "$HOME/.local/share/color-schemes/" would also be found.
Problem is the fusion style of the foreground and background colors changed.

Maik

Am Dienstag, 9. Juli 2019, 18:07:43 CEST schrieb woenx:

> Hey, now that you are discussing digikam themes, are these the same as the
> Plasma Color Schemes that can be found here?
> https://store.kde.org/browse/cat/112/
>
> In theory I could add one of these ".colors" files in digikam, and it would
> be listed in the themes menu, right? (I know I can't do that directly on the
> appimage, but I could unpack and pack it with the file).
>
> In that case, is there any color scheme editor for these files, or are they
> created by hand? It would be then quite easy to try alternative schemes or
> fine-tune existing ones.
>
>
>
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[Maik Qualmann]

New color schemes are already found without any changes to the code under
"$HOME/.local/share/digikam/colorschemes/", also with the AppImage.

Maik

Am Dienstag, 9. Juli 2019, 19:54:09 CEST schrieben Sie:

> Yes, just unzip to "/usr/share/digikam/colorschemes/". Does not work with
> the AppImage. Of course, a KF5 desktop also has an editor. But they are
> simple text files and easy to understand.
> It should be possible to add the home directory as a search path. Then,
> color themes under "$HOME/.local/share/color-schemes/" would also be found.
> Problem is the fusion style of the foreground and background colors
> changed.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Dienstag, 9. Juli 2019, 18:07:43 CEST schrieb woenx:
> > Hey, now that you are discussing digikam themes, are these the same as the
> > Plasma Color Schemes that can be found here?
> > https://store.kde.org/browse/cat/112/
> >
> > In theory I could add one of these ".colors" files in digikam, and it
> > would
> > be listed in the themes menu, right? (I know I can't do that directly on
> > the appimage, but I could unpack and pack it with the file).
> >
> > In that case, is there any color scheme editor for these files, or are
> > they
> > created by hand? It would be then quite easy to try alternative schemes or
> > fine-tune existing ones.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > http://digikam.1695700.n4.nabble.com/digikam-users-f1735189.html

[digikam-2]

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:16:03 +0200
Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> New color schemes are already found without any changes to the code
> under "$HOME/.local/share/digikam/colorschemes/", also with the
> AppImage.
>

I use DK 6.1 appimage and just checked.  I do have
~/.local/share/digikam with nothing in it or under it.

> It should be possible to add the home directory as a search path.
> Then, color themes under "$HOME/.local/share/color-schemes/" would
> also be found. Problem is the fusion style of the foreground and
> background colors changed.

As long as the active "thing" (I'm sure of the english word) is
clearly highlited, that would be good enough for me.

Thanks

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vyS

[Maik Qualmann]

> I use DK 6.1 appimage and just checked.  I do have
> ~/.local/share/digikam with nothing in it or under it.

Create the directory "~/.local/share/digikam/colorschemes/". Add color themes
and they are displayed in digiKam for selection after restart.

Maik

[digikam-2]

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:06:33 +0200
Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> I use DK 6.1 appimage and just checked.  I do have
>> ~/.local/share/digikam with nothing in it or under it.  
>
>Create the directory "~/.local/share/digikam/colorschemes/". Add
>color themes and they are displayed in digiKam for selection after
>restart.

Almost there.

I created the directory and placed the opensuse themes in there and
they show up.

The problem left is which I attribute do I need to change/add for
highlighting the current panel?

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vyS

[Maik Qualmann]

I do not know exactly what you want to emphasize and if it is even possible.
Here is a screenshot of my digiKam. Just mark what you think, which is not
clear.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1imBkiRcB5rmMvnRScFMZqN7ufOfTRWHg

Maik

Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019, 18:12:13 CEST schrieb [hidden email]:

> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:06:33 +0200
>
> Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> I use DK 6.1 appimage and just checked.  I do have
> >> ~/.local/share/digikam with nothing in it or under it.
> >
> >Create the directory "~/.local/share/digikam/colorschemes/". Add
> >color themes and they are displayed in digiKam for selection after
> >restart.
>
> Almost there.
>
> I created the directory and placed the opensuse themes in there and
> they show up.
>
> The problem left is which I attribute do I need to change/add for
> highlighting the current panel?

[digikam-2]

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 22:09:58 +0200
Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I do not know exactly what you want to emphasize and if it is even
> possible. Here is a screenshot of my digiKam. Just mark what you
> think, which is not clear.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1imBkiRcB5rmMvnRScFMZqN7ufOfTRWHg

Mine:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pYh14TRQc7UQUdnsCdNAbyto9uRUHz48

* red: you have icons + tab, which setting are you using
* green square: I'd like to highlight (bright) this
* yellow: I would like to make it like yours (easily visible)

Obviously: it's some settings

Thanks

Syv

>
> Maik
>
> Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019, 18:12:13 CEST schrieb
> [hidden email]:
> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:06:33 +0200
> >
> > Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:  
> > >> I use DK 6.1 appimage and just checked.  I do have
> > >> ~/.local/share/digikam with nothing in it or under it.  
> > >
> > >Create the directory "~/.local/share/digikam/colorschemes/". Add
> > >color themes and they are displayed in digiKam for selection
> > >after restart.  
> >
> > Almost there.
> >
> > I created the directory and placed the opensuse themes in there
> > and they show up.
> >
> > The problem left is which I attribute do I need to change/add for
> > highlighting the current panel?  
>
>
>
>

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vyS

[James Orr]

I use Win 10 and note that my local address is:

C:\Program Files\digiKam\data\digikam\colorschemes

I note that the color schemes are text files, easily examined using notepad+ + (https://notepad-plus-plus.org/)
Presumably, one could copy an existing colorscheme, edit the copy under a new name, and have one customized for personal use. I note that colors are designated in (r, g, b) using sRGB normalized to 0-255 byte.

On 7/9/2019 11:06 PM, Maik Qualmann wrote:

I use DK 6.1 appimage and just checked.  I do have
~/.local/share/digikam with nothing in it or under it.

Create the directory "~/.local/share/digikam/colorschemes/". Add color themes 
and they are displayed in digiKam for selection after restart.

Maik

>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1imBkiRcB5rmMvnRScFMZqN7ufOfTRWHg
>

notice than for some peoples like me black theme a completely illegible,
the text can't be read.

It's a well known thing that letters in white with black backgroud looks
thinner and have to be made thicker

when did you see a book printed in white on a black paper?

jdd


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[digikam-2]

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 22:09:58 +0200
Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I do not know exactly what you want to emphasize and if it is even
> possible. Here is a screenshot of my digiKam. Just mark what you
> think, which is not clear.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1imBkiRcB5rmMvnRScFMZqN7ufOfTRWHg

Which theme/settings are you using? It's very legible and much easier
to use that what I'm currently using.

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vyS

[Rafael Linux]

Some like me, ALL obscure themes have sidebars tabs text/icons unreadable
This is the "Color Contrast"  theme

https://pasteboard.co/IojUUebw.png



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[Remco Viëtor]

On mercredi 17 juillet 2019 02:57:57 CEST Rafael Linux wrote:
> Some like me, ALL obscure themes have sidebars tabs text/icons unreadable
> This is the "Color Contrast"  theme
>
> https://pasteboard.co/IojUUebw.png

Perhaps an interaction between your desktop theme and the Digikam theme?
I use the "blackbody" theme, and I have light text on a dark background...
Switching to any of the other dark themes doesn't change that.

Remco

[Rafael Linux]

I'm using one of the defaults OpenSUSE Plasma themes ("OpenSUSE" theme). But
even with "Brisa dark", same result. The only way to see side tabs
text/icons is with "Brisa", the only bright theme. But there is clear
Digikam is applying a different text color the side tabs. It's distinct from
the toolbar (that is always visible) and should be equal. Check it in
previosly attached screenshots.

Please, apply to side tabs text/icons same text color that the main toolbar.

Thank you



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[Remco Viëtor]

On mercredi 17 juillet 2019 10:47:40 CEST Rafael Linux wrote:
> I'm using one of the defaults OpenSUSE Plasma themes ("OpenSUSE" theme). But
> even with "Brisa dark", same result. The only way to see side tabs
> text/icons is with "Brisa", the only bright theme. But there is clear
> Digikam is applying a different text color the side tabs. It's distinct
> from the toolbar (that is always visible) and should be equal. Check it in
> previosly attached screenshots.

That screenshot has no image selected... And that grays out the whole right
sidebar for me, with no text for , except the tab labels...
After all, the right sidebar is mostly displaying information concerning the
*current* image, which doesn't exist in your screenshot (the *only* one I've
seen from you, btw.)

Concerning the tab labels, have you checked in Digikam settings, "Views"
section, if you have custom fonts active: the first two tabs ("Icons" and
"treeviews") allow using either the system font or a custom font.

Thing is, now I know you are also using OpenSUSE, I can try to reproduce the
problem. *Try* is the key here: I cannot get a combination where the labels
become unreadable. But I'm using the Digikam 6.1.0 from OpenSUSE Leap 15.0,
KDE:Extra repo, so *not* the appimage version.

And as Maik explained rather early in this thread, the appimage versions only
have one style engine (Fusion), which seems to be a fairly limited one
(understandable, as you want to keep an appimage reasonably compact). Perhaps
that explains the problems you see.

Good luck

Remco