[digiKam-users] How can I get digiKam to instantly hide photos when they are rejected?

[2895qgvg6v]

I asked this a week ago, but got no response, so I'm trying again ...

The first thing I do, after importing my photos, assigning high-level keywords and renaming them, is to make a pass over all the photos to reject all the hopelessly bad ones.  In Lightroom I do this by setting the filter to "No Rejects" (i.e. Unflagged or Flagged, but not Rejected), then examining each photo to check that the subject(s) are in the frame, check critical focus, etc., and typing X to reject the photo if it fails any of the checks.  If Lightroom is in grid view when I reject a photo, the photo immediately disappears from view and the next photo is selected.  If Lighroom is in loupe view when I reject a photo, again the photo immediately disappears from view and is replaced by the next photo.  At a much later point in my image processing workflow (after selecting the "best" photos, processing them and exporting them for publishing), I delete all the rejected photos.

I have attempted to do the same thing in digiKam.  I can replicate "No Rejects" by selecting None, Pending, and Accepted (but not Rejected) either in the Picture Properties section of the Advanced Search dialog from the Search View in Left Sidebar, or in the Filters tab in the Right Sidebar.  In both cases however, when I type Alt+1 to reject a photo, the photo doesn't disappear from either the Icon area (the thumbnails) or the Preview area.  Instead I see the reject flag on the Thumbnail (unless I'm in full screen where the Icon area is hidden), and no indication in the Preview area that the image was rejected.  This means I have to manually type Right-arrow to move to the next image, doubling the number of key-strokes needed in this very time-consuming part of my workflow.  The rejected photos do disappear if I switch to a different saved search and then switch back to the "No Rejects" saved search, or if I make some change to the Filter settings (e.g. selecting then unselecting the "None" color label.

I thought I remembered some discussion of this, but my searches failed to find it.
Is there some way to instantly hide photos from view when they are rejected?

I also found that while I can save my "No Rejects" search, I don't see a way to save my "No Rejects" filter.
Is there a way to save a Filter similar to saving a Search?

I'm guessing (and hoping) that both are possible and I just haven't found the place in the digiKam handbook that describes how to do it.
Thanks.

[mippo]

Hello,
I'm trying this solution, muted from Darktable:
- when importing for the first time I apply one star to all (Modify, Select All, then Ctrl-1)

   Then during the necessary review, I apply the "one star" filter, by default, then proceed with the following criteria:
- for to reject ones, I apply zero star (Ctrl-0), this cause to instant hide of it;
- for the good enough, I leave the current (one) star;
- for the better I apply two stars (ctrl-2);

in order to view the better only, apply  "two stars" filter, and so on ...


Actually I continue keeping all the rejected photos (that are about 60-80%
of the total, because of "just in case", having no problem of disk room.

simply but effective ...
what do you think about this?




Il giorno dom 9 ago 2020 alle ore 22:04 <[e-mail]> ha
scritto:

> I asked this a week ago, but got no response, so I'm trying again ...
>
> The first thing I do, after importing my photos, assigning high-level
> keywords and renaming them, is to make a pass over all the photos to reject
> all the hopelessly bad ones.  In Lightroom I do this by setting the filter
> to "No Rejects" (i.e. Unflagged or Flagged, but not Rejected), then
> examining each photo to check that the subject(s) are in the frame, check
> critical focus, etc., and typing X to reject the photo if it fails any of
> the checks.  If Lightroom is in grid view when I reject a photo, the photo
> immediately disappears from view and the next photo is selected.  If
> Lighroom is in loupe view when I reject a photo, again the photo
> immediately disappears from view and is replaced by the next photo.  At a
> much later point in my image processing workflow (after selecting the
> "best" photos, processing them and exporting them for publishing), I delete
> all the rejected photos.
>
> I have attempted to do the same thing in digiKam.  I can replicate "No
> Rejects" by selecting None, Pending, and Accepted (but not Rejected) either
> in the Picture Properties section of the Advanced Search dialog from the
> Search View in Left Sidebar, or in the Filters tab in the Right Sidebar.
> In both cases however, when I type Alt+1 to reject a photo, the photo
> doesn't disappear from either the Icon area (the thumbnails) or the Preview
> area.  Instead I see the reject flag on the Thumbnail (unless I'm in full
> screen where the Icon area is hidden), and no indication in the Preview
> area that the image was rejected.  This means I have to manually type
> Right-arrow to move to the next image, doubling the number of key-strokes
> needed in this very time-consuming part of my workflow.  The rejected
> photos do disappear if I switch to a different saved search and then switch
> back to the "No Rejects" saved search, or if I make some change to the
> Filter settings (e.g. selecting then unselecting the "None" color label.
>
> I thought I remembered some discussion of this, but my searches failed to
> find it.
> Is there some way to instantly hide photos from view when they are
> rejected?
>
> I also found that while I can save my "No Rejects" search, I don't see a
> way to save my "No Rejects" filter.
> Is there a way to save a Filter similar to saving a Search?
>
> I'm guessing (and hoping) that both are possible and I just haven't found
> the place in the digiKam handbook that describes how to do it.
> Thanks.
>

[2895qgvg6v]

Wow, that does work.  When I turn on a "one star" filter or a "one star" search and type Ctrl-0, the current photo disappears and the next one is selected (as I would expect).

Does that mean that it is a bug that when I have a "None, Pending, or Accepted flags" filter or a "None of the conditions are met, with Reject flag" search and type Alt-1 to reject a photo it doesn't disappear from view?

Can anyone confirm that they see the same behaviors (i.e. there isn't something messed up in my environment)?

Thanks.

PS: It looks like the same issue happens with colors.  If I have a"None color" filter and type Ctrl-Alt-1 to assign red to the selected image, the image doesn't disappear from view.  Why do star ratings/filters work differently (better IMO) than the others?

On 8/9/2020 5:06 PM, mippo mippo9-at-gmail.com |digikam-users| wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying this solution, muted from Darktable:

- when importing for the first time I apply one star to all (Modify, Select All, then Ctrl-1)

   Then during the necessary review, I apply the following criteria:

- for to reject ones, I apply zero star (Ctrl-0);

- for the good enough, I leave the current (one) star;

- for the better I apply two stars (ctrl-2);

then, for viewing the preview, apply the "one star" filter, by default.

in order to view the better, apply  "two stars", and so on ...

Actually I continue keeping all the rejected photos (that are about 60-80% of the total, because of "just in case", having no problem of disk room.

simply but effective ...

what do you think about this?

Il giorno dom 9 ago 2020 alle ore 22:04 <[hidden email]> ha scritto:

I asked this a week ago, but got no response, so I'm trying again ...

The first thing I do, after importing my photos, assigning high-level keywords and renaming them, is to make a pass over all the photos to reject all the hopelessly bad ones.  In Lightroom I do this by setting the filter to "No Rejects" (i.e. Unflagged or Flagged, but not Rejected), then examining each photo to check that the subject(s) are in the frame, check critical focus, etc., and typing X to reject the photo if it fails any of the checks.  If Lightroom is in grid view when I reject a photo, the photo immediately disappears from view and the next photo is selected.  If Lighroom is in loupe view when I reject a photo, again the photo immediately disappears from view and is replaced by the next photo.  At a much later point in my image processing workflow (after selecting the "best" photos, processing them and exporting them for publishing), I delete all the rejected photos.

I have attempted to do the same thing in digiKam.  I can replicate "No Rejects" by selecting None, Pending, and Accepted (but not Rejected) either in the Picture Properties section of the Advanced Search dialog from the Search View in Left Sidebar, or in the Filters tab in the Right Sidebar.  In both cases however, when I type Alt+1 to reject a photo, the photo doesn't disappear from either the Icon area (the thumbnails) or the Preview area.  Instead I see the reject flag on the Thumbnail (unless I'm in full screen where the Icon area is hidden), and no indication in the Preview area that the image was rejected.  This means I have to manually type Right-arrow to move to the next image, doubling the number of key-strokes needed in this very time-consuming part of my workflow.  The rejected photos do disappear if I switch to a different saved search and then switch back to the "No Rejects" saved search, or if I make some change to the Filter settings (e.g. selecting then unselecting the "None" color label.

I thought I remembered some discussion of this, but my searches failed to find it.
Is there some way to instantly hide photos from view when they are rejected?

I also found that while I can save my "No Rejects" search, I don't see a way to save my "No Rejects" filter.
Is there a way to save a Filter similar to saving a Search?

I'm guessing (and hoping) that both are possible and I just haven't found the place in the digiKam handbook that describes how to do it.
Thanks.

[mippo]

I think is not a bug, the colors, the flags and the stars have different
purpose and different management.
There is a different logic behind each of them ...
I prefer to use stars because is the most flexible, see the rightmost icon
on filter, for configuration.
Also, as far I know, the stars are the only way to exchange information with
other applications for Photo management, specifically Darktable.




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