[digiKam-users] HDPI, windows 10 small icons beta3

[Tóth Csaba]

Hello!

Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in the
new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).

I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.

Thanx

Csaba

[Maik Qualmann]

There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here as always.
These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
Can you take a screenshot?

Maik

Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:

> Hello!
>
> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in the
> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
>
> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
>
> Thanx
>
> Csaba

[Tóth Csaba]

Hello!
The screenshot:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons are
small too.
(red circles)

thanx
Csaba

On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:

> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here as always.
> These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
> Can you take a screenshot?
>
> Maik
>
> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
>> Hello!
>>
>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in the
>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
>>
>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
>>
>> Thanx
>>
>> Csaba
>
>
>

[Maik Qualmann]

Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in the menu bar
and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file that contains all
icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings-> Miscellaneous-> Appearance,
which icon theme is selected. For your dark color theme, it would be Breeze-
Dark.

Maik

Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:

> Hello!
> The screenshot:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons are
> small too.
> (red circles)
>
> thanx
> Csaba
>
> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here as
> > always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
> > Can you take a screenshot?
> >
> > Maik
> >
> > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in the
> >> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
> >> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
> >>
> >> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
> >>
> >> Thanx
> >>
> >> Csaba

[Tóth Csaba]

Hello!
It was "use Icon Theme From System". I changed to Breeze-Dark, but the
size is still the same (small)
The win 64bit install file about the half of the debug version. Can be
that the icons are missing?

Thanx
Csaba

On 2020-02-08 16:53, Maik Qualmann wrote:

> Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in the menu bar
> and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file that contains all
> icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings-> Miscellaneous-> Appearance,
> which icon theme is selected. For your dark color theme, it would be Breeze-
> Dark.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
>> Hello!
>> The screenshot:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
>> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons are
>> small too.
>> (red circles)
>>
>> thanx
>> Csaba
>>
>> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:
>>> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here as
>>> always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
>>> Can you take a screenshot?
>>>
>>> Maik
>>>
>>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in the
>>>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
>>>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
>>>>
>>>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
>>>>
>>>> Thanx
>>>>
>>>> Csaba
>
>
>

[Maik Qualmann]

Under Windows you have to add the environment variable
"QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" with the value 1. Then digiKam starts scaled
correctly.

Maik

Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 18:51:00 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:

> Hello!
> It was "use Icon Theme From System". I changed to Breeze-Dark, but the
> size is still the same (small)
> The win 64bit install file about the half of the debug version. Can be
> that the icons are missing?
>
> Thanx
> Csaba
>
> On 2020-02-08 16:53, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in the menu
> > bar and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file that
> > contains all icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings->
> > Miscellaneous-> Appearance, which icon theme is selected. For your dark
> > color theme, it would be Breeze- Dark.
> >
> > Maik
> >
> > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> >> Hello!
> >> The screenshot:
> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
> >> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons are
> >> small too.
> >> (red circles)
> >>
> >> thanx
> >> Csaba
> >>
> >> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> >>> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here as
> >>> always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
> >>> Can you take a screenshot?
> >>>
> >>> Maik
> >>>
> >>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> >>>> Hello!
> >>>>
> >>>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in the
> >>>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
> >>>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
> >>>>
> >>>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanx
> >>>>
> >>>> Csaba

[Maik Qualmann]

The scaled icons now look somewhat pixelated with the set environment
variable. I have now also activated high DPI icons for Windows. With the next
Windows snapshot, we'll see if it looks better.

Maik

Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 21:36:55 CET schrieben Sie:

> Under Windows you have to add the environment variable
> "QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" with the value 1. Then digiKam starts scaled
> correctly.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 18:51:00 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > Hello!
> > It was "use Icon Theme From System". I changed to Breeze-Dark, but the
> > size is still the same (small)
> > The win 64bit install file about the half of the debug version. Can be
> > that the icons are missing?
> >
> > Thanx
> > Csaba
> >
> > On 2020-02-08 16:53, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > > Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in the menu
> > > bar and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file that
> > > contains all icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings->
> > > Miscellaneous-> Appearance, which icon theme is selected. For your dark
> > > color theme, it would be Breeze- Dark.
> > >
> > > Maik
> > >
> > > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > >> Hello!
> > >> The screenshot:
> > >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
> > >> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons
> > >> are
> > >> small too.
> > >> (red circles)
> > >>
> > >> thanx
> > >> Csaba
> > >>
> > >> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > >>> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here as
> > >>> always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
> > >>> Can you take a screenshot?
> > >>>
> > >>> Maik
> > >>>
> > >>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > >>>> Hello!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
> > >>>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanx
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Csaba

[Tóth Csaba]

Hello!
Ok, thanx, working.

Csaba

On 2020-02-08 21:36, Maik Qualmann wrote:

> Under Windows you have to add the environment variable
> "QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" with the value 1. Then digiKam starts scaled
> correctly.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 18:51:00 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
>> Hello!
>> It was "use Icon Theme From System". I changed to Breeze-Dark, but the
>> size is still the same (small)
>> The win 64bit install file about the half of the debug version. Can be
>> that the icons are missing?
>>
>> Thanx
>> Csaba
>>
>> On 2020-02-08 16:53, Maik Qualmann wrote:
>>> Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in the menu
>>> bar and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file that
>>> contains all icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings->
>>> Miscellaneous-> Appearance, which icon theme is selected. For your dark
>>> color theme, it would be Breeze- Dark.
>>>
>>> Maik
>>>
>>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
>>>> Hello!
>>>> The screenshot:
>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
>>>> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons are
>>>> small too.
>>>> (red circles)
>>>>
>>>> thanx
>>>> Csaba
>>>>
>>>> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:
>>>>> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here as
>>>>> always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
>>>>> Can you take a screenshot?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maik
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in the
>>>>>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
>>>>>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csaba
>
>
>

[Gilles Caulier-4]

Maik,

Do we need to patch Windows bundle to include this env.var definition
at start-up ?

Gilles



Gilles

Le sam. 8 févr. 2020 à 21:37, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> a écrit :

>
> Under Windows you have to add the environment variable
> "QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" with the value 1. Then digiKam starts scaled
> correctly.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 18:51:00 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > Hello!
> > It was "use Icon Theme From System". I changed to Breeze-Dark, but the
> > size is still the same (small)
> > The win 64bit install file about the half of the debug version. Can be
> > that the icons are missing?
> >
> > Thanx
> > Csaba
> >
> > On 2020-02-08 16:53, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > > Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in the menu
> > > bar and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file that
> > > contains all icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings->
> > > Miscellaneous-> Appearance, which icon theme is selected. For your dark
> > > color theme, it would be Breeze- Dark.
> > >
> > > Maik
> > >
> > > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > >> Hello!
> > >> The screenshot:
> > >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
> > >> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons are
> > >> small too.
> > >> (red circles)
> > >>
> > >> thanx
> > >> Csaba
> > >>
> > >> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > >>> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here as
> > >>> always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
> > >>> Can you take a screenshot?
> > >>>
> > >>> Maik
> > >>>
> > >>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > >>>> Hello!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in the
> > >>>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
> > >>>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanx
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Csaba
>
>
>
>

[Maik Qualmann]

Good question, I think if we set the variable in the program it will be too
late. Everything I've read so far, the user has to set them themselves under
environment variables, Windows has a dialog for it.

QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR = 1

Maik

Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020, 10:35:16 CET schrieb Gilles Caulier:

> Maik,
>
> Do we need to patch Windows bundle to include this env.var definition
> at start-up ?
>
> Gilles
>
>
>
> Gilles
>
> Le sam. 8 févr. 2020 à 21:37, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> a écrit

:

> > Under Windows you have to add the environment variable
> > "QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" with the value 1. Then digiKam starts scaled
> > correctly.
> >
> > Maik
> >
> > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 18:51:00 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > > Hello!
> > > It was "use Icon Theme From System". I changed to Breeze-Dark, but the
> > > size is still the same (small)
> > > The win 64bit install file about the half of the debug version. Can be
> > > that the icons are missing?
> > >
> > > Thanx
> > > Csaba
> > >
> > > On 2020-02-08 16:53, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > > > Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in the
> > > > menu
> > > > bar and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file that
> > > > contains all icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings->
> > > > Miscellaneous-> Appearance, which icon theme is selected. For your
> > > > dark
> > > > color theme, it would be Breeze- Dark.
> > > >
> > > > Maik
> > > >
> > > > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > > >> Hello!
> > > >> The screenshot:
> > > >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
> > > >> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons
> > > >> are
> > > >> small too.
> > > >> (red circles)
> > > >>
> > > >> thanx
> > > >> Csaba
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > > >>> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here
> > > >>> as
> > > >>> always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
> > > >>> Can you take a screenshot?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Maik
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > > >>>> Hello!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
> > > >>>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanx
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Csaba

[Gilles Caulier-4]

No, it's not too late. Look this commit :

https://git.dotcircle.co/opensource/libe131/commit/feaa8b448b6bc12ea5ab9ebdb6bb330cbf17c70b

Gilles

Le jeu. 27 févr. 2020 à 22:59, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> a écrit :

>
> Good question, I think if we set the variable in the program it will be too
> late. Everything I've read so far, the user has to set them themselves under
> environment variables, Windows has a dialog for it.
>
> QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR = 1
>
> Maik
>
> Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020, 10:35:16 CET schrieb Gilles Caulier:
> > Maik,
> >
> > Do we need to patch Windows bundle to include this env.var definition
> > at start-up ?
> >
> > Gilles
> >
> >
> >
> > Gilles
> >
> > Le sam. 8 févr. 2020 à 21:37, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> a écrit
> :
> > > Under Windows you have to add the environment variable
> > > "QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" with the value 1. Then digiKam starts scaled
> > > correctly.
> > >
> > > Maik
> > >
> > > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 18:51:00 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > > > Hello!
> > > > It was "use Icon Theme From System". I changed to Breeze-Dark, but the
> > > > size is still the same (small)
> > > > The win 64bit install file about the half of the debug version. Can be
> > > > that the icons are missing?
> > > >
> > > > Thanx
> > > > Csaba
> > > >
> > > > On 2020-02-08 16:53, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > > > > Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in the
> > > > > menu
> > > > > bar and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file that
> > > > > contains all icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings->
> > > > > Miscellaneous-> Appearance, which icon theme is selected. For your
> > > > > dark
> > > > > color theme, it would be Breeze- Dark.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maik
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > > > >> Hello!
> > > > >> The screenshot:
> > > > >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky5
> > > > >> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that icons
> > > > >> are
> > > > >> small too.
> > > > >> (red circles)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> thanx
> > > > >> Csaba
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> > > > >>> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same here
> > > > >>> as
> > > > >>> always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail size.
> > > > >>> Can you take a screenshot?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Maik
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:
> > > > >>>> Hello!
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly), in
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next, preview,
> > > > >>>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanx
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Csaba
>
>
>
>

[Maik Qualmann]

https://invent.kde.org/kde/digikam/commit/06323140566c5cfc8350a9149a77a24ce0291153

Maik

 

Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2020, 07:34:38 CET schrieb Gilles Caulier:

> No, it's not too late. Look this commit :

>

> https://git.dotcircle.co/opensource/libe131/commit/feaa8b448b6bc12ea5ab9ebdb

> 6bb330cbf17c70b

>

> Gilles

>

> Le jeu. 27 févr. 2020 à 22:59, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> a écrit :

> > Good question, I think if we set the variable in the program it will be

> > too

> > late. Everything I've read so far, the user has to set them themselves

> > under environment variables, Windows has a dialog for it.

> >

> > QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR = 1

> >

> > Maik

> >

> > Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020, 10:35:16 CET schrieb Gilles Caulier:

> > > Maik,

> > >

> > > Do we need to patch Windows bundle to include this env.var definition

> > > at start-up ?

> > >

> > > Gilles

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Gilles

> > >

> > > Le sam. 8 févr. 2020 à 21:37, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> a

> > > écrit

> > >

> > > > Under Windows you have to add the environment variable

> > > > "QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" with the value 1. Then digiKam starts

> > > > scaled

> > > > correctly.

> > > >

> > > > Maik

> > > >

> > > > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 18:51:00 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:

> > > > > Hello!

> > > > > It was "use Icon Theme From System". I changed to Breeze-Dark, but

> > > > > the

> > > > > size is still the same (small)

> > > > > The win 64bit install file about the half of the debug version. Can

> > > > > be

> > > > > that the icons are missing?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx

> > > > > Csaba

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2020-02-08 16:53, Maik Qualmann wrote:

> > > > > > Something is wrong with the icons. There are almost no icons in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > menu

> > > > > > bar and also in the side bar. On Windows we use a resources file

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > contains all icons. Please have a look at digiKam Settings->

> > > > > > Miscellaneous-> Appearance, which icon theme is selected. For your

> > > > > > dark

> > > > > > color theme, it would be Breeze- Dark.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Maik

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 15:01:09 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:

> > > > > >> Hello!

> > > > > >> The screenshot:

> > > > > >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B495He6JAiJQEa7DumqTuXnfb2nfyky

> > > > > >> 5

> > > > > >> I hide the main picture with the settings window, to show that

> > > > > >> icons

> > > > > >> are

> > > > > >> small too.

> > > > > >> (red circles)

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> thanx

> > > > > >> Csaba

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> On 2020-02-08 12:52, Maik Qualmann wrote:

> > > > > >>> There are no changes in the code here. It still looks the same

> > > > > >>> here

> > > > > >>> as

> > > > > >>> always. These icons enlarge / reduce with the set thumbnail

> > > > > >>> size.

> > > > > >>> Can you take a screenshot?

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> Maik

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> Am Samstag, 8. Februar 2020, 10:30:36 CET schrieb Tóth Csaba:

> > > > > >>>> Hello!

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> Sometime after new years eve (i dont know the version exactly),

> > > > > >>>> in

> > > > > >>>> the

> > > > > >>>> new version, in the preview window, the top icons (next,

> > > > > >>>> preview,

> > > > > >>>> rotate, etc) height is about the same as a scrollbar (small).

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> I use windows 10 64 bit, on 4K display.

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> Thanx

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> Csaba