[digiKam-users] Digikam .xcf saga
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Digikam/Imagemagick still can't display Gimp-2.10 multi-layers .xcf image but I discover it is able do it with same multi-layers image Photoshop/.psd converted. I wonder what is specific problem of.xcf Gimp-2.10 format. Example Imagemagick displays only one layer (background) 'display testmader-xcf-1.xcf' https://framapic.org/HllafkS1cRzQ/6S9iKlwe5exy.xcf https://framapic.org/HllafkS1cRzQ/6S9iKlwe5exy?dl Imagemagick displays all five layers 'display testmader-psd-1.psd' https://framapic.org/Se9UTKcAWIwN/7snhbLnkhfYJ.psd https://framapic.org/Se9UTKcAWIwN/7snhbLnkhfYJ?dl testmader-png-1.png 'display testmader-png-1.png' https://framapic.org/QLQP1LpjPLhs/O0NXUUXKpshP.png https://framapic.org/QLQP1LpjPLhs/O0NXUUXKpshP?dl I posted same message here: https://github.com/ImageMagick/ImageMagick/issues/1544 -- Greetings Maderios |
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Hi, I see your comment in IM bugzilla entry : XCF is really the problem, i agree. It's more complicated and not easy to handle. It"s a shame for an open source format ! Best Gilles Caulier Le mer. 21 août 2019 à 21:04, <[hidden email]> a écrit : Hi |
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On 8/22/19 10:16 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Hi, > > I see your comment in IM bugzilla entry : > > https://github.com/ImageMagick/ImageMagick/issues/1544#issuecomment-523386393 > > XCF is really the problem, i agree. It's more complicated and not easy > to handle. It"s a shame for an open source format ! > I tried to find out software that can display Gimp 2.10 XCF format: except Gimp, none ! To see my work with an other software than Gimp, i have to convert .xcf open source to .psd photoshop proprietary... :( -- Greetings Maderios |
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:51:24 +0200
[hidden email] wrote: > On 8/22/19 10:16 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote: > > Hi, > > ... > > > I tried to find out software that can display Gimp 2.10 XCF format: > except Gimp, none ! > To see my work with an other software than Gimp, i have to convert .xcf > open source to .psd photoshop proprietary... :( I believe tumbler (https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tumbler) can at least show thumbnails. Don't know if it uses some other app to generate them. HP > > -- > Greetings > > Maderios > -- --------- 8< ------------- Why taunt me? Why upbraid me? I am merely a genius, not a god. (Nero Wolfe) Meine Bilder: http://jalbum.net/a/1456383 Berge: http://jalbum.net/de/browse/user/album/1823943 |
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On 8/22/19 8:47 PM, Hans-Peter wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:51:24 +0200 > [hidden email] wrote: > >> On 8/22/19 10:16 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote: >>> Hi, >>> > ... >>> >> I tried to find out software that can display Gimp 2.10 XCF format: >> except Gimp, none ! >> To see my work with an other software than Gimp, i have to convert .xcf >> open source to .psd photoshop proprietary... :( > > I believe tumbler (https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tumbler) can at least > show thumbnails. Don't know if it uses some other app to generate them. > Great, Tumbler displays multi-layers xcf thumbnails in last Thunar . It seems it's the only one, except Gimp, that can do it. https://github.com/xfce-mirror/tumbler I don't know if it possible to integrate it in Digikam... -- Greetings Maderios |
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The solution with tumbler is somewhere in one plugin : .. cover-thumbnailer => ebook desktop-thumbnailer => desktop files ffmpeg-thumbnailer => ffmpeg font-thumbnailer => Fonts gst-thumbnailer => GStreamer jpeg-thumbnailer => JPEG odf-thumbnailer => libreoffice pixbuf-thumbnailer => Pixmap ??? poppler-thumbnailer => PDF, PS raw-thumbnailer => RAW We already has ffmpeg in digiKam and it do not work Rest : gstreamer and pixbuf When you run tumbler on the console, there is some debug statments about XCF processing ? Gilles Caulier Le jeu. 22 août 2019 à 21:27, <[hidden email]> a écrit : On 8/22/19 8:47 PM, Hans-Peter wrote: |
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On 8/23/19 4:29 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> The solution with tumbler is somewhere in one plugin : > > https://github.com/xfce-mirror/tumbler/tree/master/plugins > > .. > cover-thumbnailer => ebook > desktop-thumbnailer => desktop files > ffmpeg-thumbnailer => ffmpeg > font-thumbnailer => Fonts > gst-thumbnailer => GStreamer > jpeg-thumbnailer => JPEG > odf-thumbnailer => libreoffice > pixbuf-thumbnailer => Pixmap ??? > poppler-thumbnailer => PDF, PS > raw-thumbnailer => RAW > > We already has ffmpeg in digiKam and it do not work > > Rest : gstreamer and pixbuf > When you run tumbler on the console, there is some debug statments about > XCF processing ? When launching Thunar in console, it displays xcf thumbnails but nothing about XCF. I think Tumbler uses gdk-pixbuf2 to display .xcf thumbnails, maybe... https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/tumbler https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GdkPixbuf https://developer.gnome.org/gdk-pixbuf/unstable// https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gdk-pixbuf2/ https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/gdk-pixbuf2 Executable 'gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer' in console: % gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer -h Usage: gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer [OPTION?] [INPUT FILE] [OUTPUT FILE] Thumbnail images Help Options: -h, --help Show help options Application Options: -s, --size Size of the thumbnail in pixels --g-fatal-warnings Make all warnings fatal 'gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer testmader-png-1.png testpng.jpeg' generates 256x192 pixels image 'testpng.jpeg' But it fails with .xcf 'gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer testmader-xcf-1.xcf test.jpeg' ** (gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer:2132): WARNING **: 11:51:28.037: Could not thumbnail 'testmader-xcf-1.xcf': Couldn?t recognize the image file format for file ?/home/fre/Bureau/gimp/test-gimp2.10/testmader-xcf-1.xcf? > > Gilles Caulier > > Le jeu. 22 août 2019 à 21:27, <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> a écrit : > > On 8/22/19 8:47 PM, Hans-Peter wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:51:24 +0200 > > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> On 8/22/19 10:16 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > > ... > >>> > >> I tried to find out software that can display Gimp 2.10 XCF format: > >> except Gimp, none ! > >> To see my work with an other software than Gimp, i have to > convert .xcf > >> open source to .psd photoshop proprietary... :( > > > > I believe tumbler (https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tumbler) can > at least > > show thumbnails. Don't know if it uses some other app to generate > them. > > > > Great, Tumbler displays multi-layers xcf thumbnails in last Thunar . > It seems it's the only one, except Gimp, that can do it. > https://github.com/xfce-mirror/tumbler > I don't know if it possible to integrate it in Digikam... -- Greetings Maderios |
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:26:09 +0200
[hidden email] wrote: > On 8/23/19 4:29 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote: > > The solution with tumbler is somewhere in one plugin : > > > > https://github.com/xfce-mirror/tumbler/tree/master/plugins > > I also found https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/gnome-xcf-thumbnailer however on my Manjaro this is not installed; instead i found a /usr/lib/xfce4/xcf-thumbnailer Don't know where the source comes from, maybe an XFC4 variant of the gnome thumbnailer. HP > > .. > > cover-thumbnailer => ebook > > desktop-thumbnailer => desktop files > > ffmpeg-thumbnailer => ffmpeg > > font-thumbnailer => Fonts > > gst-thumbnailer => GStreamer > > jpeg-thumbnailer => JPEG > > odf-thumbnailer => libreoffice > > pixbuf-thumbnailer => Pixmap ??? > > poppler-thumbnailer => PDF, PS > > raw-thumbnailer => RAW > > > > We already has ffmpeg in digiKam and it do not work > > > > Rest : gstreamer and pixbuf > > When you run tumbler on the console, there is some debug statments about > > XCF processing ? > No Tumbler executable. > When launching Thunar in console, it displays xcf thumbnails but nothing > about XCF. > I think Tumbler uses gdk-pixbuf2 to display .xcf thumbnails, maybe... > > https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/tumbler > https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GdkPixbuf > https://developer.gnome.org/gdk-pixbuf/unstable// > https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gdk-pixbuf2/ > https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/gdk-pixbuf2 > > Executable 'gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer' in console: > % gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer -h > Usage: > gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer [OPTION?] [INPUT FILE] [OUTPUT FILE] Thumbnail > images > Help Options: > -h, --help Show help options > Application Options: > -s, --size Size of the thumbnail in pixels > --g-fatal-warnings Make all warnings fatal > > > 'gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer testmader-png-1.png testpng.jpeg' > generates 256x192 pixels image 'testpng.jpeg' > But it fails with .xcf > 'gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer testmader-xcf-1.xcf test.jpeg' > > ** (gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer:2132): WARNING **: 11:51:28.037: Could not > thumbnail 'testmader-xcf-1.xcf': Couldn?t recognize the image file > format for file ?/home/fre/Bureau/gimp/test-gimp2.10/testmader-xcf-1.xcf? > > > > > > > Gilles Caulier > > > > Le jeu. 22 août 2019 à 21:27, <leoutation-W9aAOI/[hidden email] > > <mailto:[hidden email]>> a écrit : > > > > On 8/22/19 8:47 PM, Hans-Peter wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:51:24 +0200 > > > [hidden email] > > > <mailto:[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> On 8/22/19 10:16 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote: > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > > ... > > >>> > > >> I tried to find out software that can display Gimp 2.10 XCF > > >> format: except Gimp, none ! > > >> To see my work with an other software than Gimp, i have to > > convert .xcf > > >> open source to .psd photoshop proprietary... :( > > > > > > I believe tumbler (https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tumbler) > > > can > > at least > > > show thumbnails. Don't know if it uses some other app to > > > generate > > them. > > > > > > > Great, Tumbler displays multi-layers xcf thumbnails in last Thunar . > > It seems it's the only one, except Gimp, that can do it. > > https://github.com/xfce-mirror/tumbler > > I don't know if it possible to integrate it in Digikam... > > -- > Greetings > > Maderios > -- --------- 8< ------------- Why taunt me? Why upbraid me? I am merely a genius, not a god. (Nero Wolfe) Meine Bilder: http://jalbum.net/a/1456383 Berge: http://jalbum.net/de/browse/user/album/1823943 |
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On 8/23/19 7:13 PM, Hans-Peter wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:26:09 +0200 > [hidden email] wrote: > >> On 8/23/19 4:29 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote: >>> The solution with tumbler is somewhere in one plugin : >>> >>> https://github.com/xfce-mirror/tumbler/tree/master/plugins >>> > > I also found > https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/gnome-xcf-thumbnailer > however on my Manjaro this is not installed; instead i found a > /usr/lib/xfce4/xcf-thumbnailer > Don't know where the source comes from, maybe an XFC4 variant of the gnome > thumbnailer. It doesnt work with new xcf format (XCF version 11) -- Greetings Maderios |
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 19:37:19 +0200
[hidden email] wrote: > On 8/23/19 7:13 PM, Hans-Peter wrote: ... > > I also found > > https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/gnome-xcf-thumbnailer > > however on my Manjaro this is not installed; instead i found a > > /usr/lib/xfce4/xcf-thumbnailer > > Don't know where the source comes from, maybe an XFC4 variant of the > > gnome thumbnailer. > > It doesnt work with new xcf format (XCF version 11) testmader-xcf-1.xcf works here from thunar, but only if the thumbnail size is not too large. I still try to figure the arguments to call xcf-thumbnailer directly from command line. HP > > -- > Greetings > > Maderios > -- --------- 8< ------------- Why taunt me? Why upbraid me? I am merely a genius, not a god. (Nero Wolfe) Meine Bilder: http://jalbum.net/a/1456383 Berge: http://jalbum.net/de/browse/user/album/1823943 |
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Hi all, I make a test today under Mageia7.1. digiKam 6.3.0 Kimageformat 5.57 XCF multilayer generated with gimp 2.10.10 ==> it work as expected : thumbnail and image editor use the 1st layer. Note : under Dolphin file manager it render whole layer as flat image, but if thumbnail size is upper 128, the thumbnail is not generated. Gilles Le ven. 23 août 2019 à 20:44, Hans-Peter <[hidden email]> a écrit : On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 19:37:19 +0200 |
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On 8/25/19 12:53 PM, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Note : under Dolphin file manager it render whole layer as flat image, > but if thumbnail size is upper 128, the thumbnail is not generated. > > https://imgur.com/AH43eNl Good news. I don't know how Dolphin 19.08 works without qt5-imageformats and kimageformats: To test, I removed them on my system but Dolphin still displays xcf multilayers images... -- Greetings Maderios |
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No, Dolphin can not create a thumbnail of XCF image. When you save a XCF image
with Gimp, Gimp creates a thumbnail in the XDG thumbnail cache. Dolphin use the XDG cache. This is probably the reason why other Gnome file managers display a thumbnail. If you delete the XDG thumbnail cache, no thumbnail will be displayed. Maik Am Sonntag, 25. August 2019, 14:53:22 CEST schrieb [hidden email]: > On 8/25/19 12:53 PM, Gilles Caulier wrote: > > Note : under Dolphin file manager it render whole layer as flat image, > > but if thumbnail size is upper 128, the thumbnail is not generated. > > > > https://imgur.com/AH43eNl > > Good news. > > I don't know how Dolphin 19.08 works without qt5-imageformats and > kimageformats: > > To test, I removed them on my system but Dolphin still displays xcf > multilayers images... > -- > Greetings > > Maderios |
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On 8/25/19 3:17 PM, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> No, Dolphin can not create a thumbnail of XCF image. When you save a XCF image > with Gimp, Gimp creates a thumbnail in the XDG thumbnail cache. Dolphin use > the XDG cache. This is probably the reason why other Gnome file managers > display a thumbnail. If you delete the XDG thumbnail cache, no thumbnail will > be displayed. > It would be a good thing that Digikam can display .xcf XDG thumbnails :) -- Maderios |
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Really good !!!
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In reply to this post by leoutation
It would not bring any benefits to "old" XCF files. Showfoto displays XDG
thumbnails. However, at the moment, Showfoto still uses an old location. I will change that. Maik Am Sonntag, 25. August 2019, 15:24:03 CEST schrieb [hidden email]: > On 8/25/19 3:17 PM, Maik Qualmann wrote: > > No, Dolphin can not create a thumbnail of XCF image. When you save a XCF > > image with Gimp, Gimp creates a thumbnail in the XDG thumbnail cache. > > Dolphin use the XDG cache. This is probably the reason why other Gnome > > file managers display a thumbnail. If you delete the XDG thumbnail cache, > > no thumbnail will be displayed. > > It would be a good thing that Digikam can display .xcf XDG thumbnails :) > > -- > Maderios |
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Look here : Sound like it will be fixed for next KF5 framework version 5.63 (not yet released...) Gilles Caulier Le dim. 25 août 2019 à 15:29, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]> a écrit : It would not bring any benefits to "old" XCF files. Showfoto displays XDG |
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On 9/22/19 8:55 PM, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Look here : > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411327 > > Sound like it will be fixed for next KF5 framework version 5.63 (not yet > released...) Yes, wait and see... :) > > Gilles Caulier > > Le dim. 25 août 2019 à 15:29, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> a écrit : > > It would not bring any benefits to "old" XCF files. Showfoto > displays XDG > thumbnails. However, at the moment, Showfoto still uses an old > location. I > will change that. > > Maik > > Am Sonntag, 25. August 2019, 15:24:03 CEST schrieb [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>: > > On 8/25/19 3:17 PM, Maik Qualmann wrote: > > > No, Dolphin can not create a thumbnail of XCF image. When you > save a XCF > > > image with Gimp, Gimp creates a thumbnail in the XDG thumbnail > cache. > > > Dolphin use the XDG cache. This is probably the reason why > other Gnome > > > file managers display a thumbnail. If you delete the XDG > thumbnail cache, > > > no thumbnail will be displayed. > > > > It would be a good thing that Digikam can display .xcf XDG > thumbnails :) > > > > -- > > Maderios > > > > -- Maderios |
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The closed bug does not fix the loading of new gimp files.
Maik Am Sonntag, 22. September 2019, 22:12:38 CEST schrieb [hidden email]: > On 9/22/19 8:55 PM, Gilles Caulier wrote: > > Look here : > > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411327 > > > > Sound like it will be fixed for next KF5 framework version 5.63 (not yet > > released...) > > Yes, wait and see... :) > > > Gilles Caulier > > > > Le dim. 25 août 2019 à 15:29, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email] > > > > <mailto:[hidden email]>> a écrit : > > It would not bring any benefits to "old" XCF files. Showfoto > > displays XDG > > thumbnails. However, at the moment, Showfoto still uses an old > > location. I > > will change that. > > > > Maik > > > > Am Sonntag, 25. August 2019, 15:24:03 CEST schrieb [hidden email] > > > > <mailto:[hidden email]>: > > > On 8/25/19 3:17 PM, Maik Qualmann wrote: > > > > No, Dolphin can not create a thumbnail of XCF image. When you > > > > save a XCF > > > > > > image with Gimp, Gimp creates a thumbnail in the XDG thumbnail > > > > cache. > > > > > > Dolphin use the XDG cache. This is probably the reason why > > > > other Gnome > > > > > > file managers display a thumbnail. If you delete the XDG > > > > thumbnail cache, > > > > > > no thumbnail will be displayed. > > > > > > It would be a good thing that Digikam can display .xcf XDG > > > > thumbnails :) > > > > > -- > > > Maderios > > -- > Maderios |
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On 9/22/19 10:50 PM, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> The closed bug does not fix the loading of new gimp files. > > Maik There's second recent kimageformats patch to improve XCF support https://cgit.kde.org/kimageformats.git/commit/?id=7afaacb09384830b3239dd4291347550b04828b9 > > Am Sonntag, 22. September 2019, 22:12:38 CEST schrieb [hidden email]: >> On 9/22/19 8:55 PM, Gilles Caulier wrote: >>> Look here : >>> >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411327 >>> >>> Sound like it will be fixed for next KF5 framework version 5.63 (not yet >>> released...) >> >> Yes, wait and see... :) >> >>> Gilles Caulier >>> >>> Le dim. 25 août 2019 à 15:29, Maik Qualmann <[hidden email] >>> >>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> a écrit : >>> It would not bring any benefits to "old" XCF files. Showfoto >>> displays XDG >>> thumbnails. However, at the moment, Showfoto still uses an old >>> location. I >>> will change that. >>> >>> Maik >>> >>> Am Sonntag, 25. August 2019, 15:24:03 CEST schrieb [hidden email] >>> >>> <mailto:[hidden email]>: >>> > On 8/25/19 3:17 PM, Maik Qualmann wrote: >>> > > No, Dolphin can not create a thumbnail of XCF image. When you >>> >>> save a XCF >>> >>> > > image with Gimp, Gimp creates a thumbnail in the XDG thumbnail >>> >>> cache. >>> >>> > > Dolphin use the XDG cache. This is probably the reason why >>> >>> other Gnome >>> >>> > > file managers display a thumbnail. If you delete the XDG >>> >>> thumbnail cache, >>> >>> > > no thumbnail will be displayed. >>> > >>> > It would be a good thing that Digikam can display .xcf XDG >>> >>> thumbnails :) >>> >>> > -- >>> > Maderios >> >> -- >> Maderios > > > > -- Maderios |
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