[digiKam-users] DK 6.4.0 appimage?

[digikam-2]

Is the 6.4.0 appimage out?

I see that 7.0-git is being worked on, but I do not see 6.4.0. I only
see: digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage on
files.kde.org/digikam/

or is digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage the official
but it's named -git-...

Thanks

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sknahT

vyS

[Gilles Caulier-4]

Official release files are here :

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/6.4.0/

Release announcement is under process, please wait...

Gilles Caulier

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 20:38, <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Is the 6.4.0 appimage out?

I see that 7.0-git is being worked on, but I do not see 6.4.0. I only
see: digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage on
files.kde.org/digikam/

or is digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage the official
but it's named -git-...

Thanks

--
sknahT

vyS

[J Albrecht]

Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way, there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no longer use the program.

On 6 Nov 2019, at 15:16, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Official release files are here :

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/6.4.0/

Release announcement is under process, please wait...

Gilles Caulier

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 20:38, <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Is the 6.4.0 appimage out?

I see that 7.0-git is being worked on, but I do not see 6.4.0. I only
see: digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage on
files.kde.org/digikam/

or is digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage the official
but it's named -git-...

Thanks

--
sknahT

vyS

[Mica Semrick]

The macOS package is 296 mb, which is less than both the windows packages and the Linux appimage.

Not sure what you're seeing...

-m

On November 7, 2019 7:36:12 AM PST, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way, there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no longer use the program.

On 6 Nov 2019, at 15:16, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Official release files are here :

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/6.4.0/

Release announcement is under process, please wait...

Gilles Caulier

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 20:38, <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Is the 6.4.0 appimage out?

I see that 7.0-git is being worked on, but I do not see 6.4.0. I only
see: digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage on
files.kde.org/digikam/

or is digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage the official
but it's named -git-...

Thanks

--
sknahT

vyS

[Remco Viëtor]

On jeudi 7 novembre 2019 16:36:12 CET J Albrecht wrote:
> Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one
> of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way,
> there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no
> longer use the program.
Erm, no.

Those 955M packages are tar.xz. (source?), not MacOS (specific) packages.

The MacOS binary (digiKam-6.4.0-MacOS-x86-64.pkg, close to the top of the
list) is a 'mere' 296M.

Remco

[Gilles Caulier-4]

Look the 7.0.0 pre release repository :

https://files.kde.org/digikam/

and yes, all files grow of 250Mb compared to 6.4.0.

This is due to use a new DNN face engine, and especially the Yolo face detection model, which is a pure binary file including a pre-trained data of faces for the neural network :

https://invent.kde.org/kde/digikam/blob/master/core/data/facesengine/dnnface/yolov3-wider_16000.weights

Without this binary file, the deployment size come back to the 6.4.0 value...

We are talking between developers to found the right way and a possible alternative. 7.0.0 is not yet in beta stage and plenty of stuff will changes before the first beta and the final release planed in february or march 2020. So please be patient.

Best

Gilles Caulier

Le jeu. 7 nov. 2019 à 11:39, Remco Viëtor <[hidden email]> a écrit :

On jeudi 7 novembre 2019 16:36:12 CET J Albrecht wrote:
> Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one
> of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way,
> there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no
> longer use the program.
Erm, no.

Those 955M packages are tar.xz. (source?), not MacOS (specific) packages.

The MacOS binary (digiKam-6.4.0-MacOS-x86-64.pkg, close to the top of the
list) is a 'mere' 296M.

Remco

[Gilles Caulier-4]

Note : all tar.gz files in https://files.kde.org/digikam/ are binary archive of Windows versions. You don't need to run a setup.exe to install, including admin account. Just decompress the archive in home directory and run digiKam as well. digiKam do not touch the Windows base register...

Best

Gilles Caulier

Le jeu. 7 nov. 2019 à 13:19, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Look the 7.0.0 pre release repository :

https://files.kde.org/digikam/

and yes, all files grow of 250Mb compared to 6.4.0.

This is due to use a new DNN face engine, and especially the Yolo face detection model, which is a pure binary file including a pre-trained data of faces for the neural network :

https://invent.kde.org/kde/digikam/blob/master/core/data/facesengine/dnnface/yolov3-wider_16000.weights

Without this binary file, the deployment size come back to the 6.4.0 value...

We are talking between developers to found the right way and a possible alternative. 7.0.0 is not yet in beta stage and plenty of stuff will changes before the first beta and the final release planed in february or march 2020. So please be patient.

Best

Gilles Caulier

Le jeu. 7 nov. 2019 à 11:39, Remco Viëtor <[hidden email]> a écrit :

On jeudi 7 novembre 2019 16:36:12 CET J Albrecht wrote:
> Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one
> of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way,
> there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no
> longer use the program.
Erm, no.

Those 955M packages are tar.xz. (source?), not MacOS (specific) packages.

The MacOS binary (digiKam-6.4.0-MacOS-x86-64.pkg, close to the top of the
list) is a 'mere' 296M.

Remco

[J Albrecht]

During installation of the package, the following dialogue comes up:  “Standard Install on… This will take 914.6 MB of space on your computer”

Just for laughs, I also ran through the installation procedure for 7.0. It requires 1.2 GB!!  

So, yeah, it is a MASSIVE program.

On 7 Nov 2019, at 11:04, Mica Semrick <[hidden email]> wrote:

The macOS package is 296 mb, which is less than both the windows packages and the Linux appimage.

Not sure what you're seeing...

-m

On November 7, 2019 7:36:12 AM PST, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way, there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no longer use the program.

On 6 Nov 2019, at 15:16, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Official release files are here :

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/6.4.0/

Release announcement is under process, please wait...

Gilles Caulier

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 20:38, <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Is the 6.4.0 appimage out?

I see that 7.0-git is being worked on, but I do not see 6.4.0. I only
see: digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage on
files.kde.org/digikam/

or is digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage the official
but it's named -git-...

Thanks

--
sknahT

vyS

[Gilles Caulier-4]

Probably, the full debug symbols are present in all libraries from digiKam.

If digiKam is compiled with the minimum debug symbols, this will reduce a lots the size...

Gilles Caulier

Le jeu. 7 nov. 2019 à 20:11, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> a écrit :

During installation of the package, the following dialogue comes up:  “Standard Install on… This will take 914.6 MB of space on your computer”

Just for laughs, I also ran through the installation procedure for 7.0. It requires 1.2 GB!!  

So, yeah, it is a MASSIVE program.

On 7 Nov 2019, at 11:04, Mica Semrick <[hidden email]> wrote:

The macOS package is 296 mb, which is less than both the windows packages and the Linux appimage.

Not sure what you're seeing...

-m

On November 7, 2019 7:36:12 AM PST, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way, there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no longer use the program.

On 6 Nov 2019, at 15:16, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Official release files are here :

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/6.4.0/

Release announcement is under process, please wait...

Gilles Caulier

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 20:38, <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Is the 6.4.0 appimage out?

I see that 7.0-git is being worked on, but I do not see 6.4.0. I only
see: digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage on
files.kde.org/digikam/

or is digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage the official
but it's named -git-...

Thanks

--
sknahT

vyS

[J Albrecht]

Thanks for your comments, Giles.

Can it be suggested to whomever compiles the MacOS package that the full debug symbols should not be included?

On 7 Nov 2019, at 14:19, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Probably, the full debug symbols are present in all libraries from digiKam.

If digiKam is compiled with the minimum debug symbols, this will reduce a lots the size...

Gilles Caulier

Le jeu. 7 nov. 2019 à 20:11, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> a écrit :

During installation of the package, the following dialogue comes up:  “Standard Install on… This will take 914.6 MB of space on your computer”

Just for laughs, I also ran through the installation procedure for 7.0. It requires 1.2 GB!!  

So, yeah, it is a MASSIVE program.

On 7 Nov 2019, at 11:04, Mica Semrick <[hidden email]> wrote:

The macOS package is 296 mb, which is less than both the windows packages and the Linux appimage.

Not sure what you're seeing...

-m

On November 7, 2019 7:36:12 AM PST, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way, there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no longer use the program.

On 6 Nov 2019, at 15:16, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Official release files are here :

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/6.4.0/

Release announcement is under process, please wait...

Gilles Caulier

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 20:38, <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Is the 6.4.0 appimage out?

I see that 7.0-git is being worked on, but I do not see 6.4.0. I only
see: digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage on
files.kde.org/digikam/

or is digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage the official
but it's named -git-...

Thanks

--
sknahT

vyS

[Gilles Caulier-4]

If we remove the debug symbols in bundles, we will not able to identify the origin of a crash in the application. This si true for MacOS, Windows ans Linux.

The official Linux distribution trough RPM/DEB provide applications by 2 versions : with and without debug symbols. In prior, the no debug version is installed, and if necessary, the debug version is available to hack.

To reproduce this plan with bundle, this require to build 2 version of each bundles, with will be time, power, and space consuming...

Best

Gilles Caulier

Le jeu. 7 nov. 2019 à 23:11, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Thanks for your comments, Giles.

Can it be suggested to whomever compiles the MacOS package that the full debug symbols should not be included?

On 7 Nov 2019, at 14:19, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Probably, the full debug symbols are present in all libraries from digiKam.

If digiKam is compiled with the minimum debug symbols, this will reduce a lots the size...

Gilles Caulier

Le jeu. 7 nov. 2019 à 20:11, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> a écrit :

During installation of the package, the following dialogue comes up:  “Standard Install on… This will take 914.6 MB of space on your computer”

Just for laughs, I also ran through the installation procedure for 7.0. It requires 1.2 GB!!  

So, yeah, it is a MASSIVE program.

On 7 Nov 2019, at 11:04, Mica Semrick <[hidden email]> wrote:

The macOS package is 296 mb, which is less than both the windows packages and the Linux appimage.

Not sure what you're seeing...

-m

On November 7, 2019 7:36:12 AM PST, J Albrecht <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wow. The Mac OS package is now pushing the limits of 1GB!  This makes it one of the largest software packages on my Box. If keeps evolving this way, there will be a time when I’m sure that I won’t be the only one who can no longer use the program.

On 6 Nov 2019, at 15:16, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Official release files are here :

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/6.4.0/

Release announcement is under process, please wait...

Gilles Caulier

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 20:38, <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Is the 6.4.0 appimage out?

I see that 7.0-git is being worked on, but I do not see 6.4.0. I only
see: digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage on
files.kde.org/digikam/

or is digikam-6.4.0-git-20191027T165309-x86-64.appimage the official
but it's named -git-...

Thanks

--
sknahT

vyS