digiKam 4.0.0: What does Tag Manager actually do?

[Dmitri Popov]

Hello,

I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of the new Tag Manager. It seems like it merely duplicates functionality of the Tag sidebar. I haven't done some thorough testing yet, but so far, I can't see any compelling reason to opening the Tag Manager instead of just using the Tags sidebar. Am I missing something? Have anyone found a good use for the Tag Manager? What is rationale behind adding this feature to digiKam?

Thanks,

Dmitri

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[Veaceslav Munteanu-2]

Before Tags Manager, tags sidebar had no support for multiple tags,
and everything  that was needed for fast managing (multiple delete,
multiple drag-n-drop) was missing.

When I began  to implement it, instead of doing my custom tree with
all options from above, I decided to modify existing (and went through
hell because of amount of work to port everything). So with 4.0.0 tag
sidebars are much cooler, and it looks like Tags Manager is useless.

I took a look in users wishes and some of them have more than 10k of
tags. Quick Access List form Left is a way to mark only needed tag
nodes and display them, also sidebar from right allows you to fast
edit properties without clicking on tag, then Properties, than press
OK to close.

Later other users requested fast tree expand and I also added them on
tags sidebars.

And finally, because of KDE suddenly decided to drop Nepomuk, Tags
Manager lost another 2 sync options.



On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Dmitri Popov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of the new Tag Manager. It seems like it merely duplicates functionality of the Tag sidebar. I haven't done some thorough testing yet, but so far, I can't see any compelling reason to opening the Tag Manager instead of just using the Tags sidebar. Am I missing something? Have anyone found a good use for the Tag Manager? What is rationale behind adding this feature to digiKam?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dmitri
>
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[Dmitri Popov]

Thank you for your reply, Veaceslav!

Best,

Dmitri


On Friday, May 23, 2014 10:32 AM, Veaceslav Munteanu <[hidden email]> wrote:
Before Tags Manager, tags sidebar had no support for multiple tags,
and everything  that was needed for fast managing (multiple delete,
multiple drag-n-drop) was missing.

When I began  to implement it, instead of doing my custom tree with
all options from above, I decided to modify existing (and went through
hell because of amount of work to port everything). So with 4.0.0 tag
sidebars are much cooler, and it looks like Tags Manager is useless.

I took a look in users wishes and some of them have more than 10k of
tags. Quick Access List form Left is a way to mark only needed tag
nodes and display them, also sidebar from right allows you to fast
edit properties without clicking on tag, then Properties, than press
OK to close.

Later other users requested fast tree expand and I also added them on
tags sidebars.

And finally, because of KDE suddenly decided to drop Nepomuk, Tags
Manager lost another 2 sync options.




On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Dmitri Popov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of the new Tag Manager. It seems like it merely duplicates functionality of the Tag sidebar. I haven't done some thorough testing yet, but so far, I can't see any compelling reason to opening the Tag Manager instead of just using the Tags sidebar. Am I missing something? Have anyone found a good use for the Tag Manager? What is rationale behind adding this feature to digiKam?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dmitri
>
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[Veaceslav Munteanu-2]

Your mails are marked as spam from Gmail. Says it couldn't verify that
mail was sent from yahoo. Check your mail settings because a lot of
people won't see your mails.

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Dmitri Popov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you for your reply, Veaceslav!
>
> Best,
>
> Dmitri
>
>
> On Friday, May 23, 2014 10:32 AM, Veaceslav Munteanu <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Before Tags Manager, tags sidebar had no support for multiple tags,
> and everything  that was needed for fast managing (multiple delete,
> multiple drag-n-drop) was missing.
>
> When I began  to implement it, instead of doing my custom tree with
> all options from above, I decided to modify existing (and went through
> hell because of amount of work to port everything). So with 4.0.0 tag
> sidebars are much cooler, and it looks like Tags Manager is useless.
>
> I took a look in users wishes and some of them have more than 10k of
> tags. Quick Access List form Left is a way to mark only needed tag
> nodes and display them, also sidebar from right allows you to fast
> edit properties without clicking on tag, then Properties, than press
> OK to close.
>
> Later other users requested fast tree expand and I also added them on
> tags sidebars.
>
> And finally, because of KDE suddenly decided to drop Nepomuk, Tags
> Manager lost another 2 sync options.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Dmitri Popov <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of the new Tag Manager. It seems like it merely duplicates functionality of the Tag sidebar. I haven't done some thorough testing yet, but so far, I can't see any compelling reason to opening the Tag Manager instead of just using the Tags sidebar. Am I missing something? Have anyone found a good use for the Tag Manager? What is rationale behind adding this feature to digiKam?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dmitri
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Digikam-users mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
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That's right: I found it in Gmail Spam folder.

Marie-Noëlle

2014-05-23 15:31 GMT+02:00 Veaceslav Munteanu <[hidden email]>:

Your mails are marked as spam from Gmail. Says it couldn't verify that
mail was sent from yahoo. Check your mail settings because a lot of
people won't see your mails.

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[Richard Mortimer-2]

Hi,

On 23/05/2014 14:31, Veaceslav Munteanu wrote:
> Your mails are marked as spam from Gmail. Says it couldn't verify that
> mail was sent from yahoo. Check your mail settings because a lot of
> people won't see your mails.
>
I don't think there is anything to do with Dmitri's settings. Yahoo
recently changed their DMARC policy (a way to say what computers send
email as yahoo.com). A side effect of this is that it breaks delivery of
mail sent by Yahoo users the vast majority of mailing lists in existence.

See

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/yahoo-dmarc-policy-sln24050.html?impressions=true
http://blog.returnpath.com/blog/christine-borgia/all-about-yahoos-dmarc-reject-policy
https://www.virusbtn.com/blog/2014/04_15.xml
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/04/09/2047205/yahoo-dmarc-implementation-breaks-most-mailing-lists

There isn't much Dmitri can do about this at the moment. There isn't a
universal consensus in the technical community how mailinglists (or
DMARC) should be changed to make it work. IMHO the only options at the
moment are: to not use Yahoo mail to post to mailing lists; or to accept
that those receivers who check DMARC will at best mark the mail as spam.

Regards

Richard


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[Dmitri Popov]

Thank you very much for the explanation, Richard! I'll switch to another email address, then.

Best,
Dmitri


On Friday, May 23, 2014 7:02 PM, Richard Mortimer <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

On 23/05/2014 14:31, Veaceslav Munteanu wrote:
> Your mails are marked as spam from Gmail. Says it couldn't verify that
> mail was sent from yahoo. Check your mail settings because a lot of
> people won't see your mails.
>
I don't think there is anything to do with Dmitri's settings. Yahoo
recently changed their DMARC policy (a way to say what computers send
email as yahoo.com). A side effect of this is that it breaks delivery of
mail sent by Yahoo users the vast majority of mailing lists in existence.

See

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/yahoo-dmarc-policy-sln24050.html?impressions=true
http://blog.returnpath.com/blog/christine-borgia/all-about-yahoos-dmarc-reject-policy
https://www.virusbtn.com/blog/2014/04_15.xml
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/04/09/2047205/yahoo-dmarc-implementation-breaks-most-mailing-lists

There isn't much Dmitri can do about this at the moment. There isn't a
universal consensus in the technical community how mailinglists (or
DMARC) should be changed to make it work. IMHO the only options at the
moment are: to not use Yahoo mail to post to mailing lists; or to accept
that those receivers who check DMARC will at best mark the mail as spam.

Regards

Richard





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