Hi,
Since jessie freeze there has been no development in the digikam packages for debian. Now there has come up a RC bug about some non free kipi-plugin component which will remove digikam from testing on the 26 June. Are there any plans to support digikam via debian packages in the near future or will it be necessary to start build from source? Thanks for any information on the matter. Best, Simon _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
2015-06-24 9:34 GMT+02:00 Simon Frei <[hidden email]>: Hi, Non free kipi-plugins ? Which one. All is GPL ! Gilles Caulier _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Have a look at the debian package tracker:
https://packages.qa.debian.org/d/digikam.html
The specific bug in question is: https://bugs.debian.org/787349 It states that "extra/libkipi/pics/kipi-*.svg" is declared as cc-by-nc-sa on source. They suggest to remove libkipi and instead build-depend on the package libkipi. On 24/06/15 09:39, Gilles Caulier
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This is ridiculous. we have done this SVG icon in opensource. Where is the licence agreement about this file ? Gilles Caulier 2015-06-24 9:45 GMT+02:00 Simon Frei <[hidden email]>:
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The SVG licence is written automatically in XML data by Inkscape. That all
It's Creative Commons by default. We don't check it at creation time. In all case, i don't see any licensing violation here. Sometime, i think Debian team have really a lots of time to lost... Gilles Caulier 2015-06-24 9:50 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
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You have a point...
I don't get what exactly you are supposed to do marking it as a false positive, maybe just ask on the bug for more specific information? On 24/06/15 09:53, Gilles Caulier
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cc-by-nc-sa is: Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike
The Non-Commercial part is the issue. It needs to be changed to CC-BY-SA: Attribution Share-Alike The licenses that meet Debian Free Software Guidelines are listed here: https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Simon Frei <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Or just change the license on the images to GPL, same as the main program files.
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But there is no kind of licence in these SVG files. there are Creative Commons as well without any restriction. Debian is really too complicated for me (:-)))... Gilles 2015-06-24 13:39 GMT+02:00 Alan Pater <[hidden email]>:
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Looks like a bogus bug report then. I don't see any license in the svg
files either. In fact, they inherit the GPL license from libkipi. The bug report appears to have been generated automatically by lintian. I looks to me that it is up to the debian package maintainer to put in the override talked about. I don't think this is anything to worry about. It's normal and obscure Debian packaging workflow. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote: > But there is no kind of licence in these SVG files. there are Creative > Commons as well without any restriction. > > Debian is really too complicated for me (:-)))... > > Gilles > > 2015-06-24 13:39 GMT+02:00 Alan Pater <[hidden email]>: >> >> cc-by-nc-sa is: Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike >> >> The Non-Commercial part is the issue. It needs to be changed to CC-BY-SA: >> Attribution Share-Alike >> >> The licenses that meet Debian Free Software Guidelines are listed here: >> https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Simon Frei <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> You have a point... >>> I don't get what exactly you are supposed to do marking it as a false >>> positive, maybe just ask on the bug for more specific information? >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/15 09:53, Gilles Caulier wrote: >>> >>> The SVG licence is written automatically in XML data by Inkscape. That >>> all >>> >>> It's Creative Commons by default. We don't check it at creation time. >>> >>> In all case, i don't see any licensing violation here. >>> >>> Sometime, i think Debian team have really a lots of time to lost... >>> >>> Gilles Caulier >>> >>> 2015-06-24 9:50 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>>> This is ridiculous. we have done this SVG icon in opensource. >>>> >>>> Where is the licence agreement about this file ? >>>> >>>> Gilles Caulier >>>> >>>> 2015-06-24 9:45 GMT+02:00 Simon Frei <[hidden email]>: >>>>> >>>>> Have a look at the debian package tracker: >>>>> https://packages.qa.debian.org/d/digikam.html >>>>> The specific bug in question is: https://bugs.debian.org/787349 >>>>> It states that "extra/libkipi/pics/kipi-*.svg" is declared as >>>>> cc-by-nc-sa on source. They suggest to remove libkipi and instead >>>>> build-depend on the package libkipi. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24/06/15 09:39, Gilles Caulier wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-06-24 9:34 GMT+02:00 Simon Frei <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Since jessie freeze there has been no development in the digikam >>>>>> packages for debian. Now there has come up a RC bug about some non free >>>>>> kipi-plugin component which will remove digikam from testing on the 26 June. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Non free kipi-plugins ? Which one. All is GPL ! >>>>> >>>>> Gilles Caulier >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Digikam-users mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Digikam-users mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Digikam-users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Digikam-users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
On 24/06/2015 13:38, Alan Pater wrote:
> Looks like a bogus bug report then. I don't see any license in the svg > files either. In fact, they inherit the GPL license from libkipi. > It does look like the files in the Debian sources do have a license in them that specifically prohibits Commercial Use. That has been removed from the KDE git as of last December. See https://sources.debian.net/src/digikam/4:4.4.0-1.1/extra/libkipi/pics/kipi-icon.svg/ lines 54 and 58 rdf:resource="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/" /> lines 67 & 68 <cc:prohibits rdf:resource="http://web.resource.org/cc/CommercialUse" /> Similar at https://sources.debian.net/src/digikam/4:4.4.0-1.1/extra/libkipi/pics/kipi-logo.svg/ Looking at the KDE libkipi git repo it looks like Jonathan Riddell removed the incorrect cc licence data 7 months ago. https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/libs/libkipi/repository/revisions/master/show/pics 262bbedd 2014-12-03 04:21 pm Jonathan Riddell use inkscape to remove incorrect cc licence data Regards Richard > The bug report appears to have been generated automatically by > lintian. I looks to me that it is up to the debian package maintainer > to put in the override talked about. > > I don't think this is anything to worry about. It's normal and obscure > Debian packaging workflow. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Gilles Caulier > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> But there is no kind of licence in these SVG files. there are Creative >> Commons as well without any restriction. >> >> Debian is really too complicated for me (:-)))... >> >> Gilles >> >> 2015-06-24 13:39 GMT+02:00 Alan Pater <[hidden email]>: >>> >>> cc-by-nc-sa is: Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike >>> >>> The Non-Commercial part is the issue. It needs to be changed to CC-BY-SA: >>> Attribution Share-Alike >>> >>> The licenses that meet Debian Free Software Guidelines are listed here: >>> https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Simon Frei <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You have a point... >>>> I don't get what exactly you are supposed to do marking it as a false >>>> positive, maybe just ask on the bug for more specific information? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24/06/15 09:53, Gilles Caulier wrote: >>>> >>>> The SVG licence is written automatically in XML data by Inkscape. That >>>> all >>>> >>>> It's Creative Commons by default. We don't check it at creation time. >>>> >>>> In all case, i don't see any licensing violation here. >>>> >>>> Sometime, i think Debian team have really a lots of time to lost... >>>> >>>> Gilles Caulier >>>> >>>> 2015-06-24 9:50 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>: >>>>> >>>>> This is ridiculous. we have done this SVG icon in opensource. >>>>> >>>>> Where is the licence agreement about this file ? >>>>> >>>>> Gilles Caulier >>>>> >>>>> 2015-06-24 9:45 GMT+02:00 Simon Frei <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a look at the debian package tracker: >>>>>> https://packages.qa.debian.org/d/digikam.html >>>>>> The specific bug in question is: https://bugs.debian.org/787349 >>>>>> It states that "extra/libkipi/pics/kipi-*.svg" is declared as >>>>>> cc-by-nc-sa on source. They suggest to remove libkipi and instead >>>>>> build-depend on the package libkipi. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24/06/15 09:39, Gilles Caulier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-06-24 9:34 GMT+02:00 Simon Frei <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since jessie freeze there has been no development in the digikam >>>>>>> packages for debian. Now there has come up a RC bug about some non free >>>>>>> kipi-plugin component which will remove digikam from testing on the 26 June. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Non free kipi-plugins ? Which one. All is GPL ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Gilles Caulier >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Digikam-users mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Digikam-users mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Digikam-users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
This license have been removed since a while into SVG files : Again, before to open files in bugzilla, Debian team must check before to generate noise... Remember : opensource time is precious. We don't need to waste time with license details, especially when are wrong or obsolete (:=))) Just my 10cts€ viewpoint... Gilles Caulier 2015-06-24 17:17 GMT+02:00 Richard Mortimer <[hidden email]>: On 24/06/2015 13:38, Alan Pater wrote: _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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