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A very long, very much time wasted experience boils down to: Forget Virtual Box. First, some distros just won't install (OpenSUSE comes to mind, can't remember why) and some install but upon starting the virtual machine, behave as if you were at the beginning of the live CD, like the newest Mandriva and Fedora. Ubuntu, Mint, Mint Debian, PC Linux OS, installed and ran fine, to name a few. The challenge starts with Guest Additions. Usually, but not always, it installed without issue. For me, it is imperative to be able to "see" my Windows C partitions because that's where my database is, and my D partition because that's where my three photo folders are. Well, yes, there are the partitions in the Linux media folder, no problem. But trying to access them, holy cow! Problems about permissions, etc. Frankly, not worth the head banging. Reading the VB manual, there are many further instructions how to set this up to avoid the problems, with plenty of lines of entry for Terminal addicts. Forget it. A good example why Linux is stuck at 2% of the desktop market. I scrubbed my ext3 and swap partitions on my hard drive which I was using for dual boot trials, put the empty space back into the C and D partitions, and installed Wubi. Beautiful. No GRUB, just another line in the easy to edit c:\boot.ini text file. Windows partitions right there in Places. Perhaps it will be awhile before Ubuntu updates digiKam to 2.0, but in the mean time, what's not to love? Not on topic, but here's something I've come to realize: Ubuntu is succeeding as the dominant Linux distro (50%+ use, it is believed) because someone (Canonical) is in charge. It is the same reason that Mac OS is getting thousands of converts from Windows every day. Someone is in charge, someone is making decisions to keep things (mostly) compatible and easy-ish to use. Less burping, farting, head banging and other anti-social OS experiences. Not what the anarchic Linux community wants to hear, but it's hard to argue with results. If Linux ever becomes a sort of-quasi-semi-mainstream OS, it will be because of Canonical or similar company. My two cents. Paul _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:30:25AM -0400, Paul Verizzo wrote:
> > [snip] Well, just to put the other side of the argument I use VirtualBox on my Linux host to run the few Windows applications I need and it 'just works'. I have my Linux home directory mapped as the h: drive on Windows XP in VirtualBox and that 'just works' as well. -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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I think one of the advantages of Linux is that it plays well with
others. Getting Windows to read ext3 HDD's is a pain, Linux will read anything. Now if I could only get Photoshop to work in wine again, I would be happy..... On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 15:58 +0100, Chris G wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:30:25AM -0400, Paul Verizzo wrote: > > > > [snip] > > Well, just to put the other side of the argument I use VirtualBox on my > Linux host to run the few Windows applications I need and it 'just > works'. I have my Linux home directory mapped as the h: drive on > Windows XP in VirtualBox and that 'just works' as well. > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Hi Paul,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. First time I here about WUBI. I understand it intalls Ubuntu under windows. Few questions: Does it give you a native ubuntu started from within windows, or does it run on top of windows? Are your drives mounted or mountable as they are in native ubuntu? Does digikam run without trouble? Can you use existing db? Rinus Op 07-09-11 15:30, Paul Verizzo schreef: > Hopefully this won't become another HTML scrubbed mail. Grrrrrrr...... > > A very long, very much time wasted experience boils down to: Forget > Virtual Box. First, some distros just won't install (OpenSUSE comes > to mind, can't remember why) and some install but upon starting the > virtual machine, behave as if you were at the beginning of the live > CD, like the newest Mandriva and Fedora. > > Ubuntu, Mint, Mint Debian, PC Linux OS, installed and ran fine, to > name a few. The challenge starts with Guest Additions. > > Usually, but not always, it installed without issue. For me, it is > imperative to be able to "see" my Windows C partitions because that's > where my database is, and my D partition because that's where my three > photo folders are. Well, yes, there are the partitions in the Linux > media folder, no problem. But trying to access them, holy cow! > Problems about permissions, etc. Frankly, not worth the head banging. > Reading the VB manual, there are many further instructions how to set > this up to avoid the problems, with plenty of lines of entry for > Terminal addicts. Forget it. A good example why Linux is stuck at 2% > of the desktop market. > > I scrubbed my ext3 and swap partitions on my hard drive which I was > using for dual boot trials, put the empty space back into the C and D > partitions, and installed Wubi. Beautiful. No GRUB, just another > line in the easy to edit c:\boot.ini text file. Windows partitions > right there in Places. > Perhaps it will be awhile before Ubuntu updates digiKam to 2.0, but in > the mean time, what's not to love? > Not on topic, but here's something I've come to realize: Ubuntu is > succeeding as the dominant Linux distro (50%+ use, it is believed) > because someone (Canonical) is in charge. It is the same reason that > Mac OS is getting thousands of converts from Windows every day. > Someone is in charge, someone is making decisions to keep things > (mostly) compatible and easy-ish to use. Less burping, farting, head > banging and other anti-social OS experiences. Not what the anarchic > Linux community wants to hear, but it's hard to argue with results. > If Linux ever becomes a sort of-quasi-semi-mainstream OS, it will be > because of Canonical or similar company. > My two cents. Paul > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Hi Alan,
For what do you use/need photoshop that can not be done in Ubuntu? Just curious. Rinus Op 07-09-11 17:49, Alan Klughammer schreef: > I think one of the advantages of Linux is that it plays well with > others. Getting Windows to read ext3 HDD's is a pain, Linux will read > anything. > Now if I could only get Photoshop to work in wine again, I would be > happy..... > > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 15:58 +0100, Chris G wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:30:25AM -0400, Paul Verizzo wrote: >>> [snip] >> Well, just to put the other side of the argument I use VirtualBox on my >> Linux host to run the few Windows applications I need and it 'just >> works'. I have my Linux home directory mapped as the h: drive on >> Windows XP in VirtualBox and that 'just works' as well. >> > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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For Rinus,
I am seriously into photography (see some of my work at http://alanklughammer.com/portfolio/updates) and while I *can* do most of what I want with RawTherapee and Gimp, it is easier and faster to do in Photoshop. Adjustment layers with masks are way more efficient, and easier to modify, than separate image layers. I am actually going back to Photoshop after 3 or 4 years of using Gimp exclusively. I had CS5 working in wine until the last update, now I can't seem to get it to work.... Alan On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:28 +0200, sleepless wrote: Hi Alan, For what do you use/need photoshop that can not be done in Ubuntu? Just curious. Rinus Op 07-09-11 17:49, Alan Klughammer schreef: > I think one of the advantages of Linux is that it plays well with > others. Getting Windows to read ext3 HDD's is a pain, Linux will read > anything. > Now if I could only get Photoshop to work in wine again, I would be > happy..... > > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 15:58 +0100, Chris G wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:30:25AM -0400, Paul Verizzo wrote: >>> [snip] >> Well, just to put the other side of the argument I use VirtualBox on my >> Linux host to run the few Windows applications I need and it 'just >> works'. I have my Linux home directory mapped as the h: drive on >> Windows XP in VirtualBox and that 'just works' as well. >> > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Op 07-09-11 18:37, Alan Klughammer schreef:
For Rinus,indeed you are, I love the delicacy of your pictures. (see some of my work at http://alanklughammer.com/portfolio/updates) and while I *can* do most of what I want with RawTherapee and Gimp, it is easier and faster to do in Photoshop. Adjustment layers with masks are way more efficient, and easier to modify, than separate image layers.Do you have experience with cinepaint? I have read about it, seems pritty serious too. after 3 or 4 years of using Gimp exclusively. I had CS5 working in wine until the last update, now I can't seem to get it to work.... _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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