To Translators : merging DigikamImagePlugins to digiKam...

[Gilles Caulier-4]

Fabien,

There is no IRC channel to talk with GUI i18n team, only one foe DOC i18n team (not the same).

I have sent today a message to the right mailing list (common for both team). Look here :

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2

Gilles

2007/3/22, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email] >:

2007/3/22, Fabien <[hidden email]>:

Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Fabien,
>
> DigikamImagePlugins and digiKam are merged now into svn. Can you update
> your script on the web project page ?
>

In fact, they still work :)
I will remove the svn update digikamimageplugins that is not useful
anymore, but even with that, it's ok (no error, no warning)...

fine...

Could you resume the changes about po files ?

If I'm not wrong, there's only digikam.pot and nothing else ?

exactly... Normally, the digikam.po will be size up.

Nota : i'm sure to 90% that we can merge all old digikamimageplugins po files to digikam.po to not re-translate all....

Will other digikamimageplugins*.pot be removed soon ?

yes, by i18n teams, not me. I'm trying to contact i18n team today by IRC about this subject.

Gilles

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[Fabien-5]

Hi,

Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Fabien,
>
> There is no IRC channel to talk with GUI i18n team, only one foe DOC
> i18n team (not the same).
>
> I have sent today a message to the right mailing list (common for both
> team). Look here :
>
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2 
> <http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2>
>

Ok, fine.

It's weird : the digikam.pot file didn't change since last sunday
(2007-03-18 11:52+0100). Isn't it supposed to be automatically updated
at least daily ?

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

yes normally. Perhaps the scripts have been stopped for maintenance.

I have seen than some crontrols have be set to handle KDE i18n in svn...

Is others .po files like amarock are updated ?

Gilles

2007/3/23, Fabien <[hidden email]>:

Hi,

Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Fabien,
>
> There is no IRC channel to talk with GUI i18n team, only one foe DOC
> i18n team (not the same).
>
> I have sent today a message to the right mailing list (common for both
> team). Look here :
>
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2
> < http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2>
>

Ok, fine.

It's weird : the digikam.pot file didn't change since last sunday
(2007-03-18 11:52+0100). Isn't it supposed to be automatically updated
at least daily ?

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2007/3/23, Fabien <[hidden email]>:

Hi,

Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Fabien,
>
> There is no IRC channel to talk with GUI i18n team, only one foe DOC
> i18n team (not the same).
>
> I have sent today a message to the right mailing list (common for both
> team). Look here :
>
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2
> < http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2>
>

Ok, fine.

It's weird : the digikam.pot file didn't change since last sunday
(2007-03-18 11:52+0100). Isn't it supposed to be automatically updated
at least daily ?

digikam.po file is updated now in svn. Look for example :

2007/3/23, Fabien <[hidden email]>:

Hi,

Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Fabien,
>
> There is no IRC channel to talk with GUI i18n team, only one foe DOC
> i18n team (not the same).
>
> I have sent today a message to the right mailing list (common for both
> team). Look here :
>
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2
> <http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=117464200530939&w=2 >
>

Ok, fine.

It's weird : the digikam.pot file didn't change since last sunday
(2007-03-18 11:52+0100). Isn't it supposed to be automatically updated
at least daily ?

digikam.po file is updated now in svn. Look for example :

#: digikam/ratingpopupmenu.cpp:50 digikam/tagfilterview.cpp:792
#: imageplugins/coreplugin/ratiocrop/imageeffect_ratiocrop.cpp:105
#: imageplugins/coreplugin/ratiocrop/imageeffect_ratiocrop.cpp:212
#: imageplugins/coreplugin/ratiocrop/imageeffect_ratiocrop.cpp:213
#: imageplugins/freerotation/imageeffect_freerotation.cpp:144
#: imageplugins/inpainting/imageeffect_inpainting.cpp:175
#: imageplugins/inserttext/imageeffect_inserttext.cpp:162
#: imageplugins/restoration/imageeffect_restoration.cpp:106
#: imageplugins/whitebalance/imageeffect_whitebalance.cpp:240
#: libs/imageproperties/imagedescedittab.cpp:838
#: libs/imageproperties/imagepropertiestab.cpp:384
msgid "None"
msgstr "Aucune"

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[Gerhard Kulzer]

Hello Lyn!
The latest menu proposal is listed below. Some terms are being discussed right
now, and we would like to have your opinion as a native english speaker and
usability expert on it:

- Fix versus Correct
- Filters versus Effects
- Tools versus Decoration

Coherence between applications: the terms and actions should be recognizable
by users changing from other applications to digiKam or who switch between
them.

  File (as is 0.9.1)
   
  Edit (as is)
   
  View (as is)
   
  Color
   - Auto-Correction...
   - White Balance...
   - Brightness/Contrast/Gamma...
   - Hue Saturation/Lightness...
   - Color Effects...
   - Color Balance...
  --------------
   - Curves Adjust...
   - Level Adjust...
   - Channel Mixer...
  --------------
   - Invert
   - Black and White...
   - Color Management...
   - Color Depth ->
   
  Correct
   - Sharpen...
   - Blur...
  --------------------
   - Red Eye Reduction...
   - Inpainting...
   - Noise Reduction...
   - Restoration...
  --------------------
   - Hot Pixels...
   - Anti-Vignetting...
   - Lens Distortion...
   
  Transform
  - Rotate left
  - Rotate right
  - Free rotation...
  --------------
  - Flip horizontally
  - Flip vertically
  --------------
  - Change Size...
  - Aspect Ration Crop...
  - Shear...
  - Perspective...
   
  Decoration
   - Apply texture...
   - Add Border...
   - Insert Text...
   - Template Superimpose...
   
  Effects (or Filters)
   - Infrared Film...
   - Filmgrain...
   - Oilpaint...
   - Charcoal Drawing...
   - Emboss...
   - Distortion effect...
   - Blur Effects...
   - Raindrops...
   
  Settings (as is)
   
  Help (as is)

Best regards
Gerhard

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Dnia poniedziałek 26 marzec 2007, Gerhard Kulzer napisał:

> Hello Lyn!
> The latest menu proposal is listed below. Some terms are being discussed
> right now, and we would like to have your opinion as a native english
> speaker and usability expert on it:
>
> - Fix versus Correct
> - Filters versus Effects
> - Tools versus Decoration
>
> Coherence between applications: the terms and actions should be
> recognizable by users changing from other applications to digiKam or who
> switch between them.

Well, not expert but some remarks:

a) Correct is IMO better as longer - easier to hit with mouse
b) Filters is more common term (GIMP, Photoshop)
c) Not sure about wording in other apps but Decoration is better as
   adding something to image, Tools could suggest changing it and create
   confusion with Filters/Effects

My 2gr.

m.


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[Gerhard Kulzer]

Am Monday 26 March 2007 schrieb Mikolaj Machowski:

> Dnia poniedzia³ek 26 marzec 2007, Gerhard Kulzer napisa³:
> > Hello Lyn!
> > The latest menu proposal is listed below. Some terms are being discussed
> > right now, and we would like to have your opinion as a native english
> > speaker and usability expert on it:
> >
> > - Fix versus Correct
> > - Filters versus Effects
> > - Tools versus Decoration
> >
> > Coherence between applications: the terms and actions should be
> > recognizable by users changing from other applications to digiKam or who
> > switch between them.
>
> Well, not expert but some remarks:
>
> a) Correct is IMO better as longer - easier to hit with mouse
> b) Filters is more common term (GIMP, Photoshop)
> c) Not sure about wording in other apps but Decoration is better as
>    adding something to image, Tools could suggest changing it and create
>    confusion with Filters/Effects
>
> My 2gr.
>
> m.
>

After more consideration and rewriting the handbook I tend to your choice:

Correct, Filters, Decoration. I English those terms seem rather clear except
for filters which has a technical legacy.
In French we do not know the verb 'correct', it's an adjective, but in English
it is foremostly a verb as 'corriger'.

Gerhard


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Dnia poniedziałek 26 marzec 2007, Gerhard Kulzer napisał:

> > a) Correct is IMO better as longer - easier to hit with mouse
> > b) Filters is more common term (GIMP, Photoshop)
> > c) Not sure about wording in other apps but Decoration is better as
> >    adding something to image, Tools could suggest changing it and
> > create confusion with Filters/Effects
> >
> After more consideration and rewriting the handbook I tend to your
> choice: Correct, Filters, Decoration. I English those terms seem rather
> clear except for filters which has a technical legacy.
> In French we do not know the verb 'correct', it's an adjective, but in
> English it is foremostly a verb as 'corriger'.

Maybe "Corrections" would be better than "Correct". All other names of
menus are nouns while "Correct" is verb.

m.

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[Gerhard Kulzer]

Am Monday 26 March 2007 schrieb Mikolaj Machowski:

> Dnia poniedzia³ek 26 marzec 2007, Gerhard Kulzer napisa³:
> > > a) Correct is IMO better as longer - easier to hit with mouse
> > > b) Filters is more common term (GIMP, Photoshop)
> > > c) Not sure about wording in other apps but Decoration is better as
> > >    adding something to image, Tools could suggest changing it and
> > > create confusion with Filters/Effects
> >
> > After more consideration and rewriting the handbook I tend to your
> > choice: Correct, Filters, Decoration. I English those terms seem rather
> > clear except for filters which has a technical legacy.
> > In French we do not know the verb 'correct', it's an adjective, but in
> > English it is foremostly a verb as 'corriger'.
>
> Maybe "Corrections" would be better than "Correct". All other names of
> menus are nouns while "Correct" is verb.
>
> m.
>

You have a point there (rpl -R <guimenu>Correct <guimenu>Corrections .)

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[Fabien-5]

Hello,

I updated the digikam.po to merge the different translation files.

Finally, this wasn't too long :

- concatenate latest stable digikam.po file with digikamimageplugins*
files (all files from 0.9.1 stable release) to a new file

- use msguniq to remove duplicated

- use msgmerge to update the file against the latest digikam.pot (from svn)

That's it. After that, I have "only" 140 fuzzy/untranslated strings :)

Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Olivers,
>
> Note than all the old DigikamImagePlugins translations file will can be
> used to translation all plugins moved to digiKam core until than i
> remove 2 lines in showfoto and digiKam to use the i18n catalogues...
>
> Also, i'm sure than you can merge all DigikamImagePlugins .po to
> digikam.po using a simple text editor. Like this you will lost nothing
> and it will simplify your work...

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

Thanks Fabien for this feedback.

Note than the same thing must be done with handbook later. Gerhard work under doc actually and it's not yet completed.
At end, will will only have one handbook for digikam, DigikamImagePlugins, and _showfoto_. This way will reduce the huge duplicate screenshot
from old handbooks.

Oliver, are you started to merge German GUI translations ?

Gilles

2007/4/3, Fabien <[hidden email]>:

Hello,

I updated the digikam.po to merge the different translation files.

Finally, this wasn't too long :

- concatenate latest stable digikam.po file with digikamimageplugins*
files (all files from 0.9.1 stable release) to a new file

- use msguniq to remove duplicated

- use msgmerge to update the file against the latest digikam.pot (from svn)

That's it. After that, I have "only" 140 fuzzy/untranslated strings :)

Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Olivers,
>
> Note than all the old DigikamImagePlugins translations file will can be
> used to translation all plugins moved to digiKam core until than i
> remove 2 lines in showfoto and digiKam to use the i18n catalogues...
>
> Also, i'm sure than you can merge all DigikamImagePlugins .po to
> digikam.po using a simple text editor. Like this you will lost nothing
> and it will simplify your work...

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