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I upgraded to Fedora 19 a couples of days ago, and with it came Digikam 3.3.0.

Something is very strange: picture titles (or legends?) I had put on pictures with previous versions still appear under the thumbnails but they are nowhere to be seen in the right tabs.

Where are they gone?

Marie-Noëlle

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Hi Marie Noëlle,

Title or comments are always visible on right sidebar.

Typically at 2 places : properties, with digiKam section (read only), and Captions at Tags for a detailed and editable view (with multi-language support)

Best

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2013/8/16 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>

I upgraded to Fedora 19 a couples of days ago, and with it came Digikam 3.3.0.

Something is very strange: picture titles (or legends?) I had put on pictures with previous versions still appear under the thumbnails but they are nowhere to be seen in the right tabs.

Where are they gone?

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2013/8/17 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Hi Marie Noëlle,

Title or comments are always visible on right sidebar.

I might have not explained properly: the fields are there, but there is nothing in them, they are empty!

 

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Titles and captions are taken from DB. I suspect something wrong with your DB.

It's strange to see this usual metadata not available after an
upgrade. It can be a binary compatibility broken with DB interface.
This problem is not new and is generally a packaging dysfunction.

I'm surprised to see that you use Fedora. It's not the best choice
about KDE support (and desktop solution). To have tested in my office
a lots of linux box, Fedora is really the choice to do about desktop.

I highly recommend to test another distro. My preferred, with an
excellent KDE support is Mageia (digiKam release packager is a Mageia
guy). I use it since a very long time now, and i teach Linux
technologies in a computer science school with Mageia.

Gilles Caulier

2013/8/17 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>:

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2013/8/17 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Titles and captions are taken from DB. I suspect something wrong with your DB.

That's possible as I have reorganized all the external drives I use for my pictures, and Digikam might not find things where they used to be (disks have been renamed, files have been moved...)

 

It's strange to see this usual metadata not available after an
upgrade. It can be a binary compatibility broken with DB interface.
This problem is not new and is generally a packaging dysfunction.

My guess would rather go to the big reorganization I've just made on my HDD. But I'm surprised Digikam could display titles under the thumbnails and not in the tabs; I thought there were some inconsistency that's why I question a new Digikam version.

 

I'm surprised to see that you use Fedora. It's not the best choice
about KDE support (and desktop solution). To have tested in my office
a lots of linux box, Fedora is really the choice to do about desktop.

I don't use (and don't want to) KDE desktop. I've been pretty happy since I went to Fedora 3 years ago, and I don't intend to change for something else in the near future.

 

I highly recommend to test another distro. My preferred, with an
excellent KDE support is Mageia (digiKam release packager is a Mageia
guy). I use it since a very long time now, and i teach Linux
technologies in a computer science school with Mageia.

I'm nothing near a Linux admin (and I don't intend to be). I like Fedora very much because it is easy, end-user friendly, reliable and I get plenty of support, straight from the web or from the french forum where people are very competent and eager to help.

As for the problem I encounter just now, if you're positive it comes from the DB, I will have no qualm about getting rid of it and start again with a fresh DB as soon as the new tags management is released. As it is, I gave up tags management many months ago (it was a complete mess...) so my current DB should not contain a lot of very interesting things.

Marie-Noëlle

 

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2013/8/17 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>

2013/8/17 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Titles and captions are taken from DB. I suspect something wrong with your DB.

That's possible as I have reorganized all the external drives I use for my pictures, and Digikam might not find things where they used to be (disks have been renamed, files have been moved...)

 

This can be the reason.

 

It's strange to see this usual metadata not available after an
upgrade. It can be a binary compatibility broken with DB interface.
This problem is not new and is generally a packaging dysfunction.

My guess would rather go to the big reorganization I've just made on my HDD. But I'm surprised Digikam could display titles under the thumbnails and not in the tabs; I thought there were some inconsistency that's why I question a new Digikam version.

I never tested this case, but i don't know why it can be different, because information are taken by the same interface.

 

 

I'm surprised to see that you use Fedora. It's not the best choice
about KDE support (and desktop solution). To have tested in my office
a lots of linux box, Fedora is really the choice to do about desktop.

I don't use (and don't want to) KDE desktop. I've been pretty happy since I went to Fedora 3 years ago, and I don't intend to change for something else in the near future.

 

I don't said to use KDE desktop. Mageia is multi desktop solution. You can use KDE application with Gnome.

The most important is the integration and the support of KDE technologies for all desktop. I know that Fedora don't care about KDE. As digiKam use some important KDE engine in background, this point is very important.

When i talk about KDE engine, i want said some KDE components which are not GUI related... In fact it's KDELibs.

 

I highly recommend to test another distro. My preferred, with an
excellent KDE support is Mageia (digiKam release packager is a Mageia
guy). I use it since a very long time now, and i teach Linux
technologies in a computer science school with Mageia.

I'm nothing near a Linux admin (and I don't intend to be).

I'm not a Unix Guru, and i don't want to it. I want easy want to manage desktop. Of course, i know the power of command line like alternative, but computer are dedicated to be simple to use (in this way, OSX is really good). Mageia is so far more simple to use and configure than Fedora...

 

I like Fedora very much because it is easy, end-user friendly, reliable and I get plenty of support, straight from the web or from the french forum where people are very competent and eager to help.

Mageia is French Linux based distro. Same point here...

Gilles Caulier

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2013/8/17 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

My guess would rather go to the big reorganization I've just made on my HDD. But I'm surprised Digikam could display titles under the thumbnails and not in the tabs; I thought there were some inconsistency that's why I question a new Digikam version.

I never tested this case, but i don't know why it can be different, because information are taken by the same interface.

That's wa

 

 

 

I'm surprised to see that you use Fedora. It's not the best choice
about KDE support (and desktop solution). To have tested in my office
a lots of linux box, Fedora is really the choice to do about desktop.

I don't use (and don't want to) KDE desktop. I've been pretty happy since I went to Fedora 3 years ago, and I don't intend to change for something else in the near future.

 

I don't said to use KDE desktop. Mageia is multi desktop solution. You can use KDE application with Gnome.

The most important is the integration and the support of KDE technologies for all desktop. I know that Fedora don't care about KDE. As digiKam use some important KDE engine in background, this point is very important.

When i talk about KDE engine, i want said some KDE components which are not GUI related... In fact it's KDELibs.

I understand your point, but Digikam is only one of the software I regularly use. Others are not so related to KDE.
 

 

I highly recommend to test another distro. My preferred, with an
excellent KDE support is Mageia (digiKam release packager is a Mageia
guy). I use it since a very long time now, and i teach Linux
technologies in a computer science school with Mageia.

I'm nothing near a Linux admin (and I don't intend to be).

I'm not a Unix Guru, and i don't want to it. I want easy want to manage desktop. Of course, i know the power of command line like alternative, but computer are dedicated to be simple to use (in this way, OSX is really good). Mageia is so far more simple to use and configure than Fedora...

 

I like Fedora very much because it is easy, end-user friendly, reliable and I get plenty of support, straight from the web or from the french forum where people are very competent and eager to help.

Mageia is French Linux based distro. Same point here...

I'll remember your advice in case I need to look for another distro.
For now, Fedora does it for me, and I won't "change une équipe qui gagne"! ;-)

Marie-Noëlle

 

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Le 17/08/2013 18:05, Gilles Caulier a écrit :

> Mageia is French Linux based distro. Same point here...

you can also use openSUSE, very good kde integration!

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Le 17/08/2013 18:05, Gilles Caulier a écrit :

Mageia is French Linux based distro. Same point here...

you can also use openSUSE, very good kde integration!

jdd

1) I'm not looking for a new distro.

2) I have nothing against non-french distro.

My question was about the seemingly inexistant titles of pictures whose thumbnails actually display titles.

This thread seems to have gone to a whole other direction... ;-)

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Le 17/08/2013 19:12, Marie-Noëlle Augendre a écrit :

> My question was about the seemingly inexistant titles of pictures
> whose thumbnails actually display titles.

yes, but the answer could be a bad kde interation, so the distro
question (if I understand well)

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Let's keep the distro innocent till its culpability is proven!

And even if that's were the case, the first solution that will come to my mind wouldn't be to switch to another one; Fedora's packagers are reactive enough as they have proven me in the past.

Marie-Noëlle

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Le 17/08/2013 19:12, Marie-Noëlle Augendre a écrit :

My question was about the seemingly inexistant titles of pictures
whose thumbnails actually display titles.

yes, but the answer could be a bad kde interation, so the distro question (if I understand well)

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2013/8/17 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Titles and captions are taken from DB. I suspect something wrong with your DB.

Gilles,

Could you please tell me one thing:

Do the thumbnail title and the image title come from the same place? Or the thumbnail's from thumbnails DB, and the image's from the sidecar file (these images are RAW files)? In the latter case, I will try a metadata synchronization with the maintenance tool.

I have nothing much to loose, but I'd rather try the synchronization in the right way. ;-)

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2013/8/17 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>

2013/8/17 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Titles and captions are taken from DB. I suspect something wrong with your DB.

Gilles,

Could you please tell me one thing:

Do the thumbnail title and the image title come from the same place? Or the thumbnail's from thumbnails DB, and the image's from the sidecar file (these images are RAW files)? In the latter case, I will try a metadata synchronization with the maintenance tool.

Both come from the same origin through meta-data interface :

https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/graphics/digikam/repository/revisions/master/entry/libs/dmetadata/dmetadata.cpp#L494

Information is stored in DB. Both place take this info using the same DB interface :

https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/graphics/digikam/repository/revisions/master/entry/libs/database/imageinfo.cpp#L410

 

I have nothing much to loose, but I'd rather try the synchronization in the right way. ;-)

You can.

Note : in next 3.4.0, Maintenance tool will support image metadata to DB synchronization, and will be multithreaded and use multicore CPU for performance purpose. I currently finalize Maintenance improvements :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/digikam/9536807056/

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2013/8/18 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

2013/8/17 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>

2013/8/17 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Titles and captions are taken from DB. I suspect something wrong with your DB.

Gilles,

Could you please tell me one thing:

Do the thumbnail title and the image title come from the same place? Or the thumbnail's from thumbnails DB, and the image's from the sidecar file (these images are RAW files)? In the latter case, I will try a metadata synchronization with the maintenance tool.

Both come from the same origin through meta-data interface :

https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/graphics/digikam/repository/revisions/master/entry/libs/dmetadata/dmetadata.cpp#L494

Information is stored in DB. Both place take this info using the same DB interface :

https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/graphics/digikam/repository/revisions/master/entry/libs/database/imageinfo.cpp#L410

 

I have nothing much to loose, but I'd rather try the synchronization in the right way. ;-)

You can.

Note : in next 3.4.0, Maintenance tool will support image metadata to DB synchronization, and will be multithreaded and use multicore CPU for performance purpose. I currently finalize Maintenance improvements :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/digikam/9536807056/

Gilles Caulier

Forget what I previously said... there is nothing to synchronize anyway, as there is no XMP files, juste CR2s and the DB. So the information available necessarily comes from the DB.

But I just found out that the missing information seem to be related to a language problem: I realise the metadata language has been reset to the first one the list (af-ZA), in the same way other settings have been reinitialized by Digikam upgrade (my guess).

As soon as I select x-default instead, title and legend becomes available again in the "Description" subtab of "Légende/Etiquettes".
But still no title in the "Propriétés" tab; could there be a language problem here, too? I couldn't find any parameter for this one.

Marie-Noëlle

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