Time & Date (Original) seconds value
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Time & Date (Original) seconds value
 
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The EXIF data displayed on the right hand panel shows Date and Time
(original) as date plus time in hours, minutes and seconds. When I try to edit EXIF data I can change the date and the hours and minutes, but there does not seem to be any way to change the seconds. Is there a way to edit the seconds? The reason for this is that I use date and time to rename pictures, and I have some that were shot with APS film, then processed to CD, and all pictures have 00 as the seconds, so I am getting duplicate file names where multiple pictures were taken within the same minute, so I want to edit the seconds on these files. Also there is a tick box and field for Original sub-second, what does this mean? I cannot find it in the manual. Thanks Mick _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Hi Mick, On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Mick Sulley wrote: > The EXIF data displayed on the right hand panel shows Date and Time > (original) as date plus time in hours, minutes and seconds. When I try to > edit EXIF data I can change the date and the hours and minutes, but there > does not seem to be any way to change the seconds. > > Is there a way to edit the seconds? > > The reason for this is that I use date and time to rename pictures, and I > have some that were shot with APS film, then processed to CD, and all > pictures have 00 as the seconds, so I am getting duplicate file names where > multiple pictures were taken within the same minute, so I want to edit the > seconds on these files. > > Also there is a tick box and field for Original sub-second, what does this > mean? I cannot find it in the manual. time definition that the second. The reason was that standard Exif DateTimeOriginal (tag 0X9003) is a text field limited to 20 characters including a trailing zero. So you can store 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MN:SS', 19 characters, nothing more. The subseconds adds a decimal part to seconds, SS.nnn But as far as I known, very few software handle that and in most cases, one needs to process such kinds of renaming 'by hand', with command line tools. Anyway, renaming based on datetime stamp only may not be always a good strategy. If you edit seconds, you'll solve your immediate problem, yes, but there are several cases where renaming - even with valid seconds - will produce duplicates. E.g. - images shot with the camera in burst mode. Most cameras can record 3 or 4 images per second. - images collected from several cameras and users. (Typical case is some social event as a wedding. When the bride and bridegroom say Yes, it last 10 seconds and when you are the one in charge of the photos albums, you often collect 150 images from all the guests, for that 10 seconds:-) Why not considering adding a sequence number after your date ? Regards, Jean-François _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Thanks Jean-François, I think you are right that adding a sequence
number is the better solution. However I still don't understand why
seconds are not available for edit.
Thanks Mick On 27/02/13 08:05, Jean-François Rabasse wrote:
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Hey Mick,
when using "Image --> Adjust date & time" you can edit the timestamp including the seconds. Make sure the appropriate boxes (e.g. "Exif: original") are checked and it should just work. Which way did you do your editing, where do you run into this problem? Den Am 27.02.2013 10:12, schrieb Mick Sulley: > Thanks Jean-François, I think you are right that adding a sequence > number is the better solution. However I still don't understand why > seconds are not available for edit. > > Thanks > Mick > > On 27/02/13 08:05, Jean-François Rabasse wrote: >> >> Hi Mick, >> >> >> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Mick Sulley wrote: >> >>> The EXIF data displayed on the right hand panel shows Date and >>> Time (original) as date plus time in hours, minutes and seconds. >>> When I try to edit EXIF data I can change the date and the hours >>> and minutes, but there does not seem to be any way to change the >>> seconds. >>> >>> Is there a way to edit the seconds? >>> >>> The reason for this is that I use date and time to rename >>> pictures, and I have some that were shot with APS film, then >>> processed to CD, and all pictures have 00 as the seconds, so I am >>> getting duplicate file names where multiple pictures were taken >>> within the same minute, so I want to edit the seconds on these files. >>> >>> Also there is a tick box and field for Original sub-second, what >>> does this mean? I cannot find it in the manual. >> >> Sub-seconds is an Exif tag that has been added to allow a more >> accurate >> time definition that the second. >> The reason was that standard Exif DateTimeOriginal (tag 0X9003) is >> a text field limited to 20 characters including a trailing zero. >> So you can store 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MN:SS', 19 characters, nothing more. >> The subseconds adds a decimal part to seconds, SS.nnn >> >> But as far as I known, very few software handle that and in most >> cases, >> one needs to process such kinds of renaming 'by hand', with command >> line >> tools. >> >> Anyway, renaming based on datetime stamp only may not be always a good >> strategy. If you edit seconds, you'll solve your immediate problem, >> yes, >> but there are several cases where renaming - even with valid seconds - >> will produce duplicates. E.g. >> - images shot with the camera in burst mode. Most cameras can record 3 >> or 4 images per second. >> - images collected from several cameras and users. (Typical case is >> some >> social event as a wedding. When the bride and bridegroom say Yes, >> it last 10 seconds and when you are the one in charge of the photos >> albums, you often collect 150 images from all the guests, for that >> 10 seconds:-) >> >> Why not considering adding a sequence number after your date ? >> >> Regards, >> Jean-François >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Ah yes I see. I was trying to do it with Image > Metadata > Edit All
Metadata Is there any reason why there is a separate option for time/date? Thanks Mick On 27/02/13 17:50, Den wrote: > Hey Mick, > > when using "Image --> Adjust date & time" you can edit the timestamp > including the seconds. Make sure the appropriate boxes (e.g. "Exif: > original") are checked and it should just work. Which way did you do > your editing, where do you run into this problem? > > Den > > > Am 27.02.2013 10:12, schrieb Mick Sulley: >> Thanks Jean-François, I think you are right that adding a sequence >> number is the better solution. However I still don't understand why >> seconds are not available for edit. >> >> Thanks >> Mick >> >> On 27/02/13 08:05, Jean-François Rabasse wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mick, >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Mick Sulley wrote: >>> >>>> The EXIF data displayed on the right hand panel shows Date and Time >>>> (original) as date plus time in hours, minutes and seconds. When I >>>> try to edit EXIF data I can change the date and the hours and >>>> minutes, but there does not seem to be any way to change the seconds. >>>> >>>> Is there a way to edit the seconds? >>>> >>>> The reason for this is that I use date and time to rename pictures, >>>> and I have some that were shot with APS film, then processed to CD, >>>> and all pictures have 00 as the seconds, so I am getting duplicate >>>> file names where multiple pictures were taken within the same >>>> minute, so I want to edit the seconds on these files. >>>> >>>> Also there is a tick box and field for Original sub-second, what >>>> does this mean? I cannot find it in the manual. >>> >>> Sub-seconds is an Exif tag that has been added to allow a more accurate >>> time definition that the second. >>> The reason was that standard Exif DateTimeOriginal (tag 0X9003) is a >>> text field limited to 20 characters including a trailing zero. >>> So you can store 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MN:SS', 19 characters, nothing more. >>> The subseconds adds a decimal part to seconds, SS.nnn >>> >>> But as far as I known, very few software handle that and in most cases, >>> one needs to process such kinds of renaming 'by hand', with command >>> line >>> tools. >>> >>> Anyway, renaming based on datetime stamp only may not be always a good >>> strategy. If you edit seconds, you'll solve your immediate problem, >>> yes, >>> but there are several cases where renaming - even with valid seconds - >>> will produce duplicates. E.g. >>> - images shot with the camera in burst mode. Most cameras can record 3 >>> or 4 images per second. >>> - images collected from several cameras and users. (Typical case is >>> some >>> social event as a wedding. When the bride and bridegroom say Yes, it >>> last 10 seconds and when you are the one in charge of the photos >>> albums, you often collect 150 images from all the guests, for that >>> 10 seconds:-) >>> >>> Why not considering adding a sequence number after your date ? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jean-François >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Digikam-users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Sorry, don't know the reason for this. Perhaps it's to get there
faster when you don't want to alter other metadata. It also gives you the possibility to change filename and file generation date (both are not metdata), which I did not find for the metadata way. Btw.: I can change the seconds using your way. Weired... Might be a bug? Am 27.02.2013 23:11, schrieb Mick Sulley: > Ah yes I see. I was trying to do it with Image > Metadata > Edit > All Metadata > > Is there any reason why there is a separate option for time/date? > > Thanks > Mick > > On 27/02/13 17:50, Den wrote: >> Hey Mick, >> >> when using "Image --> Adjust date & time" you can edit the >> timestamp including the seconds. Make sure the appropriate boxes >> (e.g. "Exif: original") are checked and it should just work. Which >> way did you do your editing, where do you run into this problem? >> >> Den >> >> >> Am 27.02.2013 10:12, schrieb Mick Sulley: >>> Thanks Jean-François, I think you are right that adding a >>> sequence number is the better solution. However I still don't >>> understand why seconds are not available for edit. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Mick >>> >>> On 27/02/13 08:05, Jean-François Rabasse wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Mick, >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Mick Sulley wrote: >>>> >>>>> The EXIF data displayed on the right hand panel shows Date and >>>>> Time (original) as date plus time in hours, minutes and >>>>> seconds. When I try to edit EXIF data I can change the date and >>>>> the hours and minutes, but there does not seem to be any way to >>>>> change the seconds. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to edit the seconds? >>>>> >>>>> The reason for this is that I use date and time to rename >>>>> pictures, and I have some that were shot with APS film, then >>>>> processed to CD, and all pictures have 00 as the seconds, so I >>>>> am getting duplicate file names where multiple pictures were >>>>> taken within the same minute, so I want to edit the seconds on >>>>> these files. >>>>> >>>>> Also there is a tick box and field for Original sub-second, what >>>>> does this mean? I cannot find it in the manual. >>>> >>>> Sub-seconds is an Exif tag that has been added to allow a more >>>> accurate >>>> time definition that the second. >>>> The reason was that standard Exif DateTimeOriginal (tag 0X9003) >>>> is a text field limited to 20 characters including a trailing zero. >>>> So you can store 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MN:SS', 19 characters, nothing more. >>>> The subseconds adds a decimal part to seconds, SS.nnn >>>> >>>> But as far as I known, very few software handle that and in most >>>> cases, >>>> one needs to process such kinds of renaming 'by hand', with >>>> command line >>>> tools. >>>> >>>> Anyway, renaming based on datetime stamp only may not be always a >>>> good >>>> strategy. If you edit seconds, you'll solve your immediate >>>> problem, yes, >>>> but there are several cases where renaming - even with valid >>>> seconds - >>>> will produce duplicates. E.g. >>>> - images shot with the camera in burst mode. Most cameras can >>>> record 3 >>>> or 4 images per second. >>>> - images collected from several cameras and users. (Typical case >>>> is some >>>> social event as a wedding. When the bride and bridegroom say Yes, >>>> it last 10 seconds and when you are the one in charge of the >>>> photos albums, you often collect 150 images from all the guests, >>>> for that 10 seconds:-) >>>> >>>> Why not considering adding a sequence number after your date ? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Jean-François >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Digikam-users mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Digikam-users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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