Re: Digikam-users Digest, Vol 86, Issue 15

[Pierre Edelman-2]

Thank You all for these answers in the know
Any idea where a repo of ICC would contain the Ricoh I need ?
Best
Pierre



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>    1. ICC file for Ricoh GXR (Pierre Edelman)
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>    3. Re: New Version (2.7) & Philip Johnsson's PPS (Philip Johnsson)
>    4. Re: ICC file for Ricoh GXR (Martin (KDE))
>    5. Re: ICC file for Ricoh GXR (Remco Vi?tor)
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> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:02:51 +0200
> From: Pierre Edelman <[hidden email]>
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> Subject: [Digikam-users] ICC file for Ricoh GXR
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> Hello List,
> Would anyone know how to get the ICC file for my Rixoh GXR - A12 mount
> (I'd like to try RAW files) please ?
> I'm a new user of a sophisticated camera (and somewhat of a noob
> regarding Linux and Digikam, which I like very much).
> P
>
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> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:17 +0200
> From: Marie-No?lle Augendre <[hidden email]>
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> You don't need an ICC profile for your camera in order to treat RAW. It's
> for your computer screen that one would be handy (although not mandatory,
> especially at the beginning); but you'll have to buy some sensor to
> calibrate yourself you own device. A Datacolo Spyder for example:
> http://spyder.datacolor.com/
>
> Marie-No?lle
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> 2012/7/15 Pierre Edelman <[hidden email]>
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>> Hello List,
>> Would anyone know how to get the ICC file for my Rixoh GXR - A12 mount
>> (I'd like to try RAW files) please ?
>> I'm a new user of a sophisticated camera (and somewhat of a noob
>> regarding Linux and Digikam, which I like very much).
>> P
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> From: Philip Johnsson <[hidden email]>
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> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] New Version (2.7) & Philip Johnsson's PPS
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> Happy to know that you have a good experience using my PPA. My goal is of
> course to make it as useful as possible. My philosophy about it is to
> upload things I use myself and make it available to others at the same
> time. That's why it's not just Digikam in it.
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> The credit should anyway go to the developers that put all their effort in
> to digikam and bringing us this great source code to build for us all...
>
> /Philip
>
> PS. I'm on vacation this week and won't make any updates to the PPA until I
> get back but can answer questions by mail.
>  On Jul 15, 2012 9:36 PM, "Max Bedacht" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> I have been using Linux (Ubuntu) for a few years now but I would not
>> consider myself a 'power user'. I have been having some problems with
>> Digikam, no show stoppers but annoying none the less. The last was with
>> thumbnails for videos. I had looked into Philip's PPA in the past but I was
>> leery of using it - it seemed to have a lot of stuff in it that did not
>> seem to be directly associated with Digikam. I was afraid that something
>> might get 'broken' and I would have a major effort to put things back
>> together again should anything go wrong.
>>
>> I finally did it today and I must say I was very happy with the results.
>> Not only no problems (the thumbnail issue was resolved), but I got the new
>> version of Gimp as well.
>>
>> A vote of thanks to everyone involved with Digikam 2.7 and Philp for
>> making it easily available to Ubuntu users.
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>> Max Bedacht
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:38:24 +0200
> From: "Martin (KDE)" <[hidden email]>
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> Am 15.07.2012 23:17, schrieb Marie-No?lle Augendre:
>> You don't need an ICC profile for your camera in order to treat RAW.
>> It's for your computer screen that one would be handy (although not
>> mandatory, especially at the beginning); but you'll have to buy some
>> sensor to calibrate yourself you own device. A Datacolo Spyder for
>> example: http://spyder.datacolor.com/
>
> Oh, not quite right. In theory you need a ICC profile for every device
> you use in your colour process. Usually these are
> - Scanner
> - Photo camera
> - Monitor
> - Printer
>
> But it is NOT sufficient to use one profile for every device. You have
> to create one for every combination of hardware that affects colour
> presentation. For your camera this is usually light and lenses. For your
> Printer you have to profile all types of inks with all types of paper
> you use.
>
> Where Marie is right (IMHO): You usually don't need a camera profile.
> Only if you need exact colour reproduction under different conditions
> (like technical product photography) with different devices it is
> recomendet.
>
> It is way more important to get the white balance right.
>
> But if you want to do serious photo editing with your computer you need
> a calibrated monitor.
>
> Martin
>
>>
>> Marie-No?lle
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/15 Pierre Edelman <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>>
>>     Hello List,
>>     Would anyone know how to get the ICC file for my Rixoh GXR - A12 mount
>>     (I'd like to try RAW files) please ?
>>     I'm a new user of a sophisticated camera (and somewhat of a noob
>>     regarding Linux and Digikam, which I like very much).
>>     P
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>> <http://www.marie-noelle-augendre.com/photos/>.
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>> Et parcourez les C?vennes ? ma fa?on avec C?vennes Plurielles
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:09:39 +0200
> From: Remco Vi?tor <[hidden email]>
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> On Monday 16 July 2012 08:38:24 Martin wrote:
>> Am 15.07.2012 23:17, schrieb Marie-No?lle Augendre:
>> > You don't need an ICC profile for your camera in order to treat RAW.
>> > It's for your computer screen that one would be handy (although not
>> > mandatory, especially at the beginning); but you'll have to buy some
>> > sensor to calibrate yourself you own device. A Datacolo Spyder for
>> > example: http://spyder.datacolor.com/
>>
>> Oh, not quite right. In theory you need a ICC profile for every device
>> you use in your colour process. Usually these are
>> - Scanner
>> - Photo camera
>> - Monitor
>> - Printer
>>
>> But it is NOT sufficient to use one profile for every device. You have
>> to create one for every combination of hardware that affects colour
>> presentation. For your camera this is usually light and lenses. For your
>> Printer you have to profile all types of inks with all types of paper
>> you use.
>>
>> Where Marie is right (IMHO): You usually don't need a camera profile.
>> Only if you need exact colour reproduction under different conditions
>> (like technical product photography) with different devices it is
>> recomendet.
>>
>> It is way more important to get the white balance right.
>>
>> But if you want to do serious photo editing with your computer you need
>> a calibrated monitor.
>>
>
> Fully agreed. And the reason is simple: your screen is what you use to judge
> your edits, and where you decide what image you want (warmer/colder colours,
> saturation, ...). So you want the image on your screen as close as possible to
> the final printed image (or to what others can see, if you post on the web).
>
> I know, 90% of the other monitors will not be set up properly, but at least
> you know what you send out, so that source of errors is removed ;)
>
> That said, if you want to profile your camera, have a look at the 'color
> passport', a colour chart/white balance card sold with a program that allows
> you to create a profile for your camera (takes about 5-10 min to generate a
> profile). (Though, if you need a camera profile for high level colour
> accuracy, see a specialist..)
>
> And if you go that way, you'll want to use the white balance card to set the
> proper white balance, either while shooting or in post production (the only
> difference between the two concerns the embedded jpeg in the RAW, camera white
> balance setting has NO influence on the RAW data)
>
> Remco
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