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Heikki Rekki

Re: Digikam-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 4

Hi, Thanks to all!

I suppose, that Francis "solved" my problem. I had used ACDSee from version 8 and now I use ACDSeePro 7. Version 10 (if I remember correct) ACDSee begin to embed properties into the files itself. I see that like this: I burn some foto files to cd rom disk without any database. Only .JPG file OR both .RAW files and .XMP files. Then I go and read cd with another computer, where I have installed ACDSee program. Then I give command Catalog files and ACDSee reads all properties from my files and put them in its own database. Also sutch properties, whitch are not in the database formerly.

But I use, ofcourse, hierarcical categories, for instance Rekki (my family name)/Heikki (my foname), Marjatta (my wife)... and so on. In windows I didn't find any of these categories, no in .jpg files or in .raw and .xmp files (Yes, both of yhem are in sama folder with the same filename.) I couldn't see top categiry (Rekki) or subcategorie (Rekke/Heikki).

If the truth is this, as Farcis sade, it is impossible to me to change Windos to Linux, and that is very pity.

Heikki

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4. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Francis Corvin)

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 15:16:48 +0200
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I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee metadata (
all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all properties into
photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
Heikki
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From: Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>
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Hi Heikki,

if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
that DigiKam will show them.

So what special metadata do you searching for?

You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside
of photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
photos?

Johannes

Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
> Heikki
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 17:50:03 +0100
From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>
To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
power of open source <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
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I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.

At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in digiKam.

Note : there are 3 situations possible :

1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.

Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
ask me to import this information from a private database.

Gilles Caulier

2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>:
> Hi Heikki,
>
> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
> that DigiKam will show them.
>
> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>
> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside of
> photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your photos?
>
> Johannes
>
> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>>
>> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> Windows).
>> Heikki
>>
>>
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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:14:02 +0000
From: Francis Corvin <[hidden email]>
To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
power of open source <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

ACDSee keeps metadata in its proprietary database by default. However,
it has a command to embed them in picture files. So overall this should
be doable.

The only issue is whether some tags are used for the same purpose in
DigiKam and ACDSee. In particular, ACDSee uses hierarchical
categories---one of the most interesting features about ACDSee. Since no
metadata model allows for this as standard, they use a fudge that I
would not expect any other software to read. On a large collection, that
would be a tedious manual process, unless you were good at scripting a
text parser.

Best regards,

Francis

On 2015-03-08 16:50, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> <pre wrap>
> I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>
> At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in
digiKam.
>
> Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>
> 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
> 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
> 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>
> Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
> ask me to import this information from a private database.
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune &[hidden email]>:
> </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
> Hi Heikki,
>
> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
> that DigiKam will show them.
>
> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>
> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside of
> photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your photos?
>
> Johannes
>
> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
> </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>
> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
> Windows).
> Heikki
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Digikam-users mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>
> </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
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Jim MacLeod

Re: Digikam-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 4

Is it worth trying Exiftool ( http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ ) as this programme runs in Windows as well as Linux. It may allow you to see how all the metadata is stored.

On 9 March 2015 at 14:42, Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi, Thanks to all!
I suppose, that Francis "solved" my problem. I had used ACDSee from version 8 and now I use ACDSeePro 7. Version 10 (if I remember correct) ACDSee begin to embed properties into the files itself. I see that like this: I burn some foto files to cd rom disk without any database. Only .JPG file OR both .RAW files and .XMP files. Then I go and read cd with another computer, where I have installed ACDSee program. Then I give command Catalog files and ACDSee reads all properties from my files and put them in its own database. Also sutch properties, whitch are not in the database formerly.
But I use, ofcourse, hierarcical categories, for instance Rekki (my family name)/Heikki (my foname), Marjatta (my wife)... and so on. In windows I didn't find any of these categories, no in .jpg files or in .raw and .xmp files (Yes, both of yhem are in sama folder with the same filename.) I couldn't see top categiry (Rekki) or subcategorie (Rekke/Heikki).
If the truth is this, as Farcis sade, it is impossible to me to change Windos to Linux, and that is very pity.
Heikki

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Today's Topics:

1. DigiKam and ACDSee (Heikki Rekki)
2. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Johannes Kapune)
3. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Gilles Caulier)
4. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Francis Corvin)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 15:16:48 +0200
From: Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
Message-ID:
<[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee metadata (
all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all properties into
photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
Heikki
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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:55:04 +0100
From: Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed

Hi Heikki,

if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
that DigiKam will show them.

So what special metadata do you searching for?

You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside
of photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
photos?

Johannes

Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
> Heikki
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Digikam-users mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 17:50:03 +0100
From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>
To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
power of open source <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
Message-ID:
<[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.

At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in digiKam.

Note : there are 3 situations possible :

1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.

Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
ask me to import this information from a private database.

Gilles Caulier

2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>:
> Hi Heikki,
>
> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
> that DigiKam will show them.
>
> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>
> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside of
> photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your photos?
>
> Johannes
>
> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>>
>> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> Windows).
>> Heikki
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Digikam-users mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Digikam-users mailing list
> [hidden email]
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:14:02 +0000
From: Francis Corvin <[hidden email]>
To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
power of open source <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

ACDSee keeps metadata in its proprietary database by default. However,
it has a command to embed them in picture files. So overall this should
be doable.

The only issue is whether some tags are used for the same purpose in
DigiKam and ACDSee. In particular, ACDSee uses hierarchical
categories---one of the most interesting features about ACDSee. Since no
metadata model allows for this as standard, they use a fudge that I
would not expect any other software to read. On a large collection, that
would be a tedious manual process, unless you were good at scripting a
text parser.

Best regards,

Francis

On 2015-03-08 16:50, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> <pre wrap>
> I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>
> At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in
digiKam.
>
> Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>
> 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
> 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
> 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>
> Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
> ask me to import this information from a private database.
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune &[hidden email]>:
> </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
> Hi Heikki,
>
> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
> that DigiKam will show them.
>
> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>
> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside of
> photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your photos?
>
> Johannes
>
> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
> </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>
> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
> Windows).
> Heikki
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Digikam-users mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>
> </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
> </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
> _______________________________________________
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> </pre></body>
> </html>
> </html>

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