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Andreas T. Ege
Hi there,

I've just received a shitload of old mails on the list, from June to now. I already had all/ most of them at the time. Whats happened there?


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Re: Old mails

Gilles Caulier-4
pending queue mails from mailing list server processed by admin. You can trash all of them... (:=)))

Gilles Caulier

2011/11/10 Andreas T. Ege <[hidden email]>
Hi there,

I've just received a shitload of old mails on the list, from June to now. I already had all/ most of them at the time. Whats happened there?


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Re: Old mails

AT Ege
Hi there,

> pending queue mails from mailing list server processed by admin. You can
> trash all of them... (:=)))
>
if they were pending, why did I already have them?

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Re: Old mails

Stan Goodman-3
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On Thursday 10 November 2011 23:03:13 Gilles Caulier wrote:
> pending queue mails from mailing list server processed by admin. You
> can trash all of them... (:=)))
>
> Gilles Caulier

They were a considerable annoyance to deal with, and a waste of time for
the users of this list. I notice in your brief explanation quoted above
that you don't see any need for an apology for that, nor did you even
comment on it until directly questioned.

When it happens again, is there a chance that you would be able to trash
the detritus locally, all at once, instead of letting everyone do that
on his own copy?

> 2011/11/10 Andreas T. Ege <[hidden email]>
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I've just received a shitload of old mails on the list, from June
> > to now. I already had all/ most of them at the time. Whats
> > happened there?
> >
> >
> > Confused,
> > --
> > Andreas Ege
> >
> > 24 The Birches
> > Shobdon
> > HR6 9NG
> >
> > Mobile: +44.7526.315292
> > Phone: +44.1568.709166
> >
> > Mail: [hidden email]
> > http://spheniscid.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > Digikam-users mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users

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Re: Old mails

Johnny
Stan Goodman <[hidden email]> writes:

> On Thursday 10 November 2011 23:03:13 Gilles Caulier wrote:
>> pending queue mails from mailing list server processed by admin. You
>> can trash all of them... (:=)))
>
> They were a considerable annoyance to deal with, and a waste of time for
> the users of this list. I notice in your brief explanation quoted above
> that you don't see any need for an apology for that, nor did you even
> comment on it until directly questioned.
>
> When it happens again, is there a chance that you would be able to trash
> the detritus locally, all at once, instead of letting everyone do that
> on his own copy?
>

I don't see it appropriate to criticise developers providing us with
free software and advice for also moderating a mailing list which users
voluntarily sign up for.

If you have a problem with old mails, set up a filter in your mail
client that automatically deals with this, if you have a problem with
identical messages (don't see how you would be receiving mails that are
stuck in the list filter though...), filter on message id, if you have a
problem with the mailing list, just unsubscribe!

Or why not volunteer as a mailing list as a moderator and contribute
yourself to the community instead of demanding apologies from people who
actually do?!?!

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Re: Old mails

AT Ege
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Hi there,

> They were a considerable annoyance to deal with, and a waste of time for
> the users of this list. I notice in your brief explanation quoted above
> that you don't see any need for an apology for that, nor did you even
> comment on it until directly questioned.
>
> When it happens again, is there a chance that you would be able to trash
> the detritus locally, all at once, instead of letting everyone do that
> on his own copy?
>
as I gather from another thread, which I just found (guess it got 'lost'
in the bunch of mail suddenly flooding my iphone, overview on a proper
computer just is better ;-) ), it was something that needed to be done
quickly, or the list would have been a goner:
> Based on the previous lack of response to my email, I have determined
> these two mailing lists (digikam-devel and digikam-users) to be
> inactive.
> As such, they will be deleted unless no objections are raised inside
> the next 48 hours.
>
> Regards,
> Ben Cooksley
> KDE Sysadmin

I didn't consider it annoying, I was just surprised and that's why I
asked for information. I think trashing the detritus queue-side is not a
good idea, as the moderator probably doesn't know whether you actually
recieved the mail (?). Guessing here, though. At least you'd expect only
mails in the queue that didn't get sent to the list, though I think this
wasn't the case here, as I definetely remember having read some of those
old mails before.

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Re: Old mails

Stan Goodman-3
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On Friday 11 November 2011 00:34:28 Johnny wrote:

> Stan Goodman <[hidden email]> writes:
> > On Thursday 10 November 2011 23:03:13 Gilles Caulier wrote:
> >> pending queue mails from mailing list server processed by admin.
> >> You can trash all of them... (:=)))
> >
> > They were a considerable annoyance to deal with, and a waste of
> > time for the users of this list. I notice in your brief
> > explanation quoted above that you don't see any need for an
> > apology for that, nor did you even comment on it until directly
> > questioned.
> >
> > When it happens again, is there a chance that you would be able to
> > trash the detritus locally, all at once, instead of letting
> > everyone do that on his own copy?
>
> I don't see it appropriate to criticise developers providing us with
> free software and advice for also moderating a mailing list which
> users voluntarily sign up for.

Yes, that's the universal all-purpose excuse. And "excuse" is what it
is.

> If you have a problem with old mails, set up a filter in your mail
> client that automatically deals with this, if you have a problem with
> identical messages (don't see how you would be receiving mails that
> are stuck in the list filter though...), filter on message id, if
> you have a problem with the mailing list, just unsubscribe!
>
> Or why not volunteer as a mailing list as a moderator and contribute
> yourself to the community instead of demanding apologies from people
> who actually do?!?!

Or why not be a man, and simply say something like "We goofed. We're
sorry for the inconvenience. We'll try to prevent repetitions in the
future"?

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Re: Old mails

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+1 for Johnny!


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tosca
+1 and many more, of course !

2011/11/11 Ozzy <[hidden email]>

+1 for Johnny!


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Re: Old mails

Rinus
What a funny non issue!

Takes me less then 10 seconds to select outdated unread messages and to delete them.
regards,
Rinus

Op 11-11-11 10:34, Marie-Noëlle Augendre schreef:
+1 and many more, of course !

2011/11/11 Ozzy <[hidden email]>

+1 for Johnny!


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Re: Old mails

Photonoxx
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The matter is when you have multiple email accounts, if you don't post  
with one which is subscribed to the list, the KDE list put it in queue...

It happens to me sometime, and in most of the case, I repost with the  
right account, may be it's why you remember having reading some of these  
old messages.


The good thing is, recently I do the mistake again (I use Opera with multi  
account, and didn't notice I not use the right account), but I received a  
mail to alert me and offer me to avoid this mail...

as you have two emails adress one with spheniscid.net and an other with  
mymail.ch, may some of your message was not post directly in the list ?

Le Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:53:08 +0100, AT Ege <[hidden email]> a écrit:

> Hi there,
>
> I didn't consider it annoying, I was just surprised and that's why I  
> asked for information. I think trashing the detritus queue-side is not a  
> good idea, as the moderator probably doesn't know whether you actually  
> recieved the mail (?). Guessing here, though. At least you'd expect only  
> mails in the queue that didn't get sent to the list, though I think this  
> wasn't the case here, as I definetely remember having read some of those  
> old mails before.
>


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Re: Old mails

Andreas T. Ege
Hello,

> as you have two emails adress one with spheniscid.net and an other with mymail.ch, may some of your message was not post directly in the list ?
Ooops. I had thought I had purged the mymail one out of my system. Just checked the phone, it's gone there. Check thunderbird later, and then probably check which mail address is registered at the list. Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.

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Re: Old mails

Andreas T. Ege


Am 11.11.2011 19:50, schrieb Andreas T. Ege:

> Hello,
>
>> as you have two emails adress one with spheniscid.net and an other
>> with mymail.ch, may some of your message was not post directly in
>> the list ?
> Ooops. I had thought I had purged the mymail one out of my system.
> Just checked the phone, it's gone there. Check thunderbird later, and
> then probably check which mail address is registered at the list.
> Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.
>
Just checked thunderbird. You're right, my old arcor account still gave
mymail.ch as my mail-address. Deleted it there, but the irritating bit
is why thunderbird uses the arcor identity anyway for answers on the
list. And it definetely was using the spheniscid.net server to send the
mail, as mymail.ch doesn't exist anymore (the service provider, and my
mail address with it).
I just can't seem to find a way to stop thunderbird from erratically
using the arcor identity, short of deleting it, but I can't see any
pattern in its use either.
But I guess that would be another thread, on another list...

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Photonoxx
I can't see the header of your mymail.ch mail this week since they're  
relayed by dgikam list, but it seems they was relayed correctly...

So may be it's by luck due to the fact admin list accept their quickly, or  
may you just have set in your actual account a "answer to" pointing  
mymail.ch adress ?

Le Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:12:28 +0100, Andreas T. Ege  
<[hidden email]> a écrit:

>
>
> Am 11.11.2011 19:50, schrieb Andreas T. Ege:
>> Hello,
>>
>>> as you have two emails adress one with spheniscid.net and an other
>>> with mymail.ch, may some of your message was not post directly in
>>> the list ?
>> Ooops. I had thought I had purged the mymail one out of my system.
>> Just checked the phone, it's gone there. Check thunderbird later, and
>> then probably check which mail address is registered at the list.
>> Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.
>>
> Just checked thunderbird. You're right, my old arcor account still gave  
> mymail.ch as my mail-address. Deleted it there, but the irritating bit  
> is why thunderbird uses the arcor identity anyway for answers on the  
> list. And it definetely was using the spheniscid.net server to send the  
> mail, as mymail.ch doesn't exist anymore (the service provider, and my  
> mail address with it).
> I just can't seem to find a way to stop thunderbird from erratically  
> using the arcor identity, short of deleting it, but I can't see any  
> pattern in its use either.
> But I guess that would be another thread, on another list...
>


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