New search in digikam 0.10

Hi All,

I want to know is there is a documentation that explains the new search
capabilities (I think that this is linked with the new database model).

I just compiled the latest svn version, and I tried the new search, which is
very important for me. I was surprised that a lot of IPTC tag are not
searchable. Before adding more comments or wishes, I prefer to get and read
all related documentation if they exists.

By the way, I'm really happy with digikam and i only want to share my view
with you in order to make digikam better.

Philippe
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

Philipe,

New searches tools come from digiKam for KDE4 (0.10.0), which still
under development.

Current digiKam for KDE3 do not have any changes about searches tools.

Best

Gilles Caulier

2008/4/9, Philippe Arnone <[hidden email]>:

> Hi All,
>
>  I want to know is there is a documentation that explains the new search
>  capabilities (I think that this is linked with the new database model).
>
>  I just compiled the latest svn version, and I tried the new search, which is
>  very important for me. I was surprised that a lot of IPTC tag are not
>  searchable. Before adding more comments or wishes, I prefer to get and read
>  all related documentation if they exists.
>
>  By the way, I'm really happy with digikam and i only want to share my view
>  with you in order to make digikam better.
>
>  Philippe
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Le Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:02:33 Gilles Caulier, vous avez écrit :
>

Hi Gilles,

I know that. I want to know if there is a document (even some mails) that
explains what you and the team plan to do with the search. As I said, I
compiled digikam 0.10 from svn and I found that the new search does not give
enough possibilities. As I said, I'm ok to eplain more deeper what I want,
but before saying "Hey guys, you should do that and that..", I prefer ask
what you plan to do.

Of course, I'm not talking about digikam 0.9.x, which has not the same
database background.

Philippe
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[Marcel Wiesweg]

> Hi All,
>
> I want to know is there is a documentation that explains the new search
> capabilities (I think that this is linked with the new database model).
>
> I just compiled the latest svn version, and I tried the new search, which
> is very important for me. I was surprised that a lot of IPTC tag are not
> searchable. Before adding more comments or wishes, I prefer to get and read
> all related documentation if they exists.
>
> By the way, I'm really happy with digikam and i only want to share my view
> with you in order to make digikam better.
>
> Philippe

There is the DBSCHEMA.ods file which describes the database and some of the
intended IPTC core and Dublin Core mappings.
Note that neither all these mappings are complete, nor the related search
tools.
I have used the XMP specification and the "IptcCore For Xmp" specification.
Feel free to outline which fields you need, use cases are very welcome as well
at this stage.

Marcel
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Le Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:59:40 Marcel Wiesweg, vous avez écrit :
> There is the DBSCHEMA.ods file which describes the database and some of the
> intended IPTC core and Dublin Core mappings.
> Note that neither all these mappings are complete, nor the related search
> tools.
> I have used the XMP specification and the "IptcCore For Xmp" specification.
> Feel free to outline which fields you need, use cases are very welcome as
> well at this stage.

Hi Marcel,

Thank you for the link to that document. I'm going to read it and I will give
you my feeback.
What a shame on me, I was searching for ods and txt files but I did not see it
because of the capitalized letter :(

Philippe
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

File is here :

http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/extragear/graphics/digikam/DBSCHEMA.ODS?revision=726446

Gilles Caulier

2008/4/9, Philippe Arnone <[hidden email]>:

> Le Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:59:40 Marcel Wiesweg, vous avez écrit :
>
> > There is the DBSCHEMA.ods file which describes the database and some of the
>  > intended IPTC core and Dublin Core mappings.
>  > Note that neither all these mappings are complete, nor the related search
>  > tools.
>  > I have used the XMP specification and the "IptcCore For Xmp" specification.
>  > Feel free to outline which fields you need, use cases are very welcome as
>  > well at this stage.
>
>
> Hi Marcel,
>
>  Thank you for the link to that document. I'm going to read it and I will give
>  you my feeback.
>  What a shame on me, I was searching for ods and txt files but I did not see it
>  because of the capitalized letter :(
>
>
>  Philippe
>
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[Marcel Wiesweg]

> Feel free to outline which fields you need, use cases are very welcome as
> well at this stage.

That goes out to others on this list as well: Tell us what you want to search;
Give us usecases, and even better, two or three example photographs which
have the required metadata set so that we can test.
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Hi all,

Sorry for the long delay between my first questions about search and my
proposal.

I think that the first advantage of a tool like digikam is to give users the
ability to search photo within the whole collection. Depending on each user,
it is quite easy to have thousands of photos to manage. That is even more
easy to have a huge amount of photography if you use digikam to manage all
photos taken by your family (wife, children,...). I do not want to talk about
professional photographer, because I'm not one of use :)

When you need to search within the thousand of photos, it is hard if you do
not manage in the right way your collection. Let's say that you use IPTC to
annotate the photos using all or part of IPTC fields.

I think that the tool search should permit to look at any IPTC fields or Exif
field. Today, it seems that it is possible to search for a lot of
IPTC/XMP/Exif tags. Until now, I only found one field that is not present,
but I think I know why, this field is the "Lens name". It is stored in the
markernote. It seems that it is not possible to search within the markernote.

Since my last comment, I played a lot with digikam 0.10 and found stuff that I
did not see before. The search tool seems complete (except search in
markernote). The more I use digikam, the more I enjoy it.

I think that it will be hard to follow the information that can be found in
the EXIF. To avoid this problem, why not imagine a "free" search for
all "tags" or metadata that do not have a specific search ?
It should be easy to have a free search. The user will choose the tag/metadata
name trough a list built from the database (which know all names).

I'm not sure that my ideas are clearly explained.

Cheers,

Philippe



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