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Monitor calibration hw/sw for linux?

Brano
Slightly off topic, hopefully mods won't mid.

Can anyone recomed monitor calibration hw/sw that works under linux?

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Re: Monitor calibration hw/sw for linux?

Gys van Zyl
You're looking for http://www.argyllcms.com/

You may want to read a few of the posts on this blog (http://jcornuz.wordpress.com/), it has quite a bit of info on color management under linux, including monitor calibration.



On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Brano <[hidden email]> wrote:
Slightly off topic, hopefully mods won't mid.

Can anyone recomed monitor calibration hw/sw that works under linux?

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Bugzilla from plores@telefonica.net
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See also

http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

an excellent tutorial.
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Re: Monitor calibration hw/sw for linux?

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On mercoledì 14 ottobre 2009 18:48:27, Brano wrote:
> Slightly off topic, hopefully mods won't mid.
>
> Can anyone recomed monitor calibration hw/sw that works under linux?

I used a cheap huey (see: http://www.pantone.com/pages/products/product.aspx?pid=79), together with argyllcms (see: http://www.argyllcms.com/) to do a good calibration of my monitor.

The huey works fine out of the box with argyllcms. Before the huey was sold by Gretag-Machbet, later was sold by Pantone, now seems sold by X-Rite, but it's exactly the same hardware. Also, there should be a cheaper "basic" and a less cheaper "pro" version, they have the same hardware, the only difference is the software (for Windows and Mac Os X) they give you; since I was on gnu/linux, I got the "basic" version

The topic is not so easy, but following the argyllcms documentation and some posts from this blog http://jcornuz.wordpress.com/ I found my way out, and put some notes in my blog, so I won't forget. If you understand Italian, they're here: http://gerlos.altervista.org/pinguino-fotografo/gestione-colori-gnulinux

Later on, I discovered dispcalGUI (see: http://hoech.net/dispcalGUI/), just a GUI frontend to argyllcms, and now I use it when I need to calibrate a monitor, it's very comfortable.

I remembered that for a while I tinkered with a littleCMS-based GUI for monitor calibration, but found it quite awkward to use, and there was a lot thing I didn't understand, so I suggest you to avoid it.

Good luck
gerlos


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Re: Monitor calibration hw/sw for linux?

Milan Knížek
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Brano píše v St 14. 10. 2009 v 12:48 -0400:
> Slightly off topic, hopefully mods won't mid.
>
> Can anyone recomed monitor calibration hw/sw that works under linux?
>
A bit of extra information for those interested:

As far as I am aware, there is no consumer grade monitor with hardware
calibration, which would be directly supported by linux tools.

What I do instead is that I create hardware calibration profiles in MS
Windows using the tools from the vendor (these profiles are stored in
the LCD and can be switched using hw buttons). I personally use the
predefined sRGB, AdobeRGB and then full monitor's gamut with D50 white
point.

As a second step, I profile the display using argyllcms tools as usual -
that is, I skip the calibration process (use native values). This
affects only the VCGT in the graphics card, but honestly, the changes
are minor.

Due to missing linux support, I have to manually load the proper display
profile depending on which hw profile is "active". (I use symlinks so
that I do not need to manually change in each application.)

regards,

Milan Knizek
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http://www.milan-knizek.net - About linux and photography (Czech
language only)

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Re: Monitor calibration hw/sw for linux?

Mark Greenwood-2
On Monday 19 Oct 2009 06:39:27 Milan Knížek wrote:

> Brano píše v St 14. 10. 2009 v 12:48 -0400:
> > Slightly off topic, hopefully mods won't mid.
> >
> > Can anyone recomed monitor calibration hw/sw that works under linux?
> >
> A bit of extra information for those interested:
>
> As far as I am aware, there is no consumer grade monitor with hardware
> calibration, which would be directly supported by linux tools.
>
> What I do instead is that I create hardware calibration profiles in MS
> Windows using the tools from the vendor (these profiles are stored in
> the LCD and can be switched using hw buttons). I personally use the
> predefined sRGB, AdobeRGB and then full monitor's gamut with D50 white
> point.

I've got an LG monitor with a white balance settings called 'sRGB'. Does anybody know, or think, that by using this I could avoid the need for calibration and colour management, provided I always work in SRGB colour space?

Mark

>
> As a second step, I profile the display using argyllcms tools as usual -
> that is, I skip the calibration process (use native values). This
> affects only the VCGT in the graphics card, but honestly, the changes
> are minor.
>
> Due to missing linux support, I have to manually load the proper display
> profile depending on which hw profile is "active". (I use symlinks so
> that I do not need to manually change in each application.)
>
> regards,
>
> Milan Knizek
> knizek (dot) confy (at) volny (dot) cz
> http://www.milan-knizek.net - About linux and photography (Czech
> language only)
>
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Re: Monitor calibration hw/sw for linux?

gerlos
On lunedì 19 ottobre 2009 20:31:03, Mark Greenwood wrote:

> On Monday 19 Oct 2009 06:39:27 Milan Knížek wrote:
> > Brano píše v St 14. 10. 2009 v 12:48 -0400:
> > > Slightly off topic, hopefully mods won't mid.
> > >
> > > Can anyone recomed monitor calibration hw/sw that works under linux?
> > >
> > A bit of extra information for those interested:
> >
> > As far as I am aware, there is no consumer grade monitor with hardware
> > calibration, which would be directly supported by linux tools.
> >
> > What I do instead is that I create hardware calibration profiles in MS
> > Windows using the tools from the vendor (these profiles are stored in
> > the LCD and can be switched using hw buttons). I personally use the
> > predefined sRGB, AdobeRGB and then full monitor's gamut with D50 white
> > point.
>
> I've got an LG monitor with a white balance settings called 'sRGB'. Does anybody know, or think, that by using this I could avoid the need for calibration and colour management, provided I always work in SRGB colour space?

Afaik, no, you couldn't avoid calibration, since the video card needs to know something about how to map colors on the screeen, and I'm not sure that it does the "right things" out of the box.

At least, I'd do a check with a colorimeter to be sure that everything is right. But if you are happy eyeballing a gamma chart on the screen, it could be ok anyway...

regards
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Re: Monitor calibration hw/sw for linux?

Bugzilla from dennis@meulensteen.nl
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> I've got an LG monitor with a white balance settings called 'sRGB'. Does anybody know, or think, that by using this I could avoid the need for calibration and colour management, provided I always work in SRGB colour space?
>
> Mark

Most monitors are tuned to sRGB out of the box. It is the industry standard for consumer monitors, graphics cards and, dare I say, OSes.

This means everything should be in the ball park right out of the box.

Nerd > /dev/null 2>&1

Here's what I do: Take a picture with your digicam, preferably one using the whole histogram with lots of different colours, skin tones and such. Send it off to have it printed in a largish format specifying "no adjustments whatsoever"! Then get the resulting print and check to see where the monitor picture and the print differ. Adjust the knobs and dials on your monitor until your built in stereo optical colorimeter tells you they are as close as they'll ever get. Presto, you now have an end to end color calibrated system set up. It may be less easy to tweak, requiring actual foot work to do, but it works if your printer (or printing service) can deliver consistent results. I've done 12 large pictures for an exhibition this way and never had a single complaint about the colour being off.

Dennis
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Re: Monitor calibration hw/sw for linux?

Milan Knížek
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gerlos píše v Po 19. 10. 2009 v 22:06 +0200:
> > > I've got an LG monitor with a white balance settings called 'sRGB'.
>  Does anybody know, or think, that by using this I could avoid the need
>  for calibration and colour management, provided I always work in SRGB
>  colour space?
>
> Afaik, no, you couldn't avoid calibration, since the video card needs
>  to know something about how to map colors on the screeen, and I'm not
>  sure that it does the "right things" out of the box.

This is a bit misleading information.

Short answer is that if Mark believes that his monitor is capable of
sRGB gamut and displays colours as they are characterised by sRGB ICC
profile, he can use sRGB profile as the monitor profile in various
applications.

However, I would doubt that the monitor is of so high quality and he
would probably get more reliable colours by setting the sRGB settings in
the monitor (quasi calibrating it) and create a custom profile with
Huey, Eye One etc. (characterise it).

The ICC profile can do a bit of calibration, too - it is done via VCGT
tag, which adjusts the video card settings. To use the VCGT, one needs a
VCGT loader - like dispwin tool from argyllcms.

Regards,

Milan Knizek
knizek (dot) confy (at) volny (dot) cz
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