Lightroom Integration: how?

[Paul Waldo]

Hi all,

I see in the announcement of digiKam 1.0.0-beta2 that support was added for Lightroom:
"Added support of LightRoom keywords path for interoperability purpose"

So, I compiled the latest SVN (Version 1.0.0-beta4 (rev.: 1012366)), but I don't see any mention of Lightroom in any of the menus or configuration dialogs.  What am I missing?  Thanks!

Paul

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

All is done in background when you import pictures from LR collection.
Of course, LR must be configured to host keywords to image metadata...

Gilles Caulier

2009/8/17 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:

> Hi all,
>
> I see in the announcement of digiKam 1.0.0-beta2 that support was added for
> Lightroom:
> "Added support of LightRoom keywords path for interoperability purpose"
>
> So, I compiled the latest SVN (Version 1.0.0-beta4 (rev.: 1012366)), but I
> don't see any mention of Lightroom in any of the menus or configuration
> dialogs.  What am I missing?  Thanks!
>
> Paul
>
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[Paul Waldo]

Thanks for the reply, Gilles.  Is there anyway to go the other way around; from Digikam to Lightroom?  
----- "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> All is done in background when you import pictures from LR
> collection.
> Of course, LR must be configured to host keywords to image
> metadata...
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2009/8/17 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I see in the announcement of digiKam 1.0.0-beta2 that support was
> added for
> > Lightroom:
> > "Added support of LightRoom keywords path for interoperability
> purpose"
> >
> > So, I compiled the latest SVN (Version 1.0.0-beta4 (rev.: 1012366)),
> but I
> > don't see any mention of Lightroom in any of the menus or
> configuration
> > dialogs.  What am I missing?  Thanks!
> >
> > Paul
> >
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

The reverse is true by the same way. digiKam record in XMP LR
namespace a copy of keywords.

Gilles Caulier

2009/8/17 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:

> Thanks for the reply, Gilles.  Is there anyway to go the other way around; from Digikam to Lightroom?
> ----- "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> All is done in background when you import pictures from LR
>> collection.
>> Of course, LR must be configured to host keywords to image
>> metadata...
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2009/8/17 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I see in the announcement of digiKam 1.0.0-beta2 that support was
>> added for
>> > Lightroom:
>> > "Added support of LightRoom keywords path for interoperability
>> purpose"
>> >
>> > So, I compiled the latest SVN (Version 1.0.0-beta4 (rev.: 1012366)),
>> but I
>> > don't see any mention of Lightroom in any of the menus or
>> configuration
>> > dialogs.  What am I missing?  Thanks!
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
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[Paul Waldo]

I must be thick-headed, as I can't see how to do it.  I'm searching for a menu option that says something like "Write all tags to XMP file that LightRoom can read", but there must be some other way to do it.  Any instructions would be greatly appreciated!

BTW, none of my images have any metadata embedded in them, as they are mostly raw

----- "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The reverse is true by the same way. digiKam record in XMP LR
> namespace a copy of keywords.
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2009/8/17 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
> > Thanks for the reply, Gilles.  Is there anyway to go the other way
> around; from Digikam to Lightroom?
> > ----- "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> All is done in background when you import pictures from LR
> >> collection.
> >> Of course, LR must be configured to host keywords to image
> >> metadata...
> >>
> >> Gilles Caulier
> >>
> >> 2009/8/17 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I see in the announcement of digiKam 1.0.0-beta2 that support
> was
> >> added for
> >> > Lightroom:
> >> > "Added support of LightRoom keywords path for interoperability
> >> purpose"
> >> >
> >> > So, I compiled the latest SVN (Version 1.0.0-beta4 (rev.:
> 1012366)),
> >> but I
> >> > don't see any mention of Lightroom in any of the menus or
> >> configuration
> >> > dialogs.  What am I missing?  Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Paul
> >> >
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2009/8/18 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
> I must be thick-headed, as I can't see how to do it.  I'm searching for a menu option that says something like "Write all tags to XMP file that LightRoom can read", but there must be some other way to do it.  Any instructions would be greatly appreciated!
>
> BTW, none of my images have any metadata embedded in them, as they are mostly raw


Which king of RAW exactly. digiKam can write in some RAW file thrue
Exiv2, as NEF or DNG for exemple, but i recommend to use last Exiv2
version (0.18.2)

With last Exiv2 XMP sidecar file is drived, in read only mode, to
import XMP metadata from LR RAW files to digiKam

The metadata option are in digiKam setup panel. Option name are
generic and do not mention LR.

Gilles Caulier

>
> ----- "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> The reverse is true by the same way. digiKam record in XMP LR
>> namespace a copy of keywords.
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2009/8/17 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
>> > Thanks for the reply, Gilles.  Is there anyway to go the other way
>> around; from Digikam to Lightroom?
>> > ----- "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> All is done in background when you import pictures from LR
>> >> collection.
>> >> Of course, LR must be configured to host keywords to image
>> >> metadata...
>> >>
>> >> Gilles Caulier
>> >>
>> >> 2009/8/17 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > I see in the announcement of digiKam 1.0.0-beta2 that support
>> was
>> >> added for
>> >> > Lightroom:
>> >> > "Added support of LightRoom keywords path for interoperability
>> >> purpose"
>> >> >
>> >> > So, I compiled the latest SVN (Version 1.0.0-beta4 (rev.:
>> 1012366)),
>> >> but I
>> >> > don't see any mention of Lightroom in any of the menus or
>> >> configuration
>> >> > dialogs.  What am I missing?  Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > Paul
>> >> >
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On Tuesday 18 August 2009 15:29:59 Paul Waldo wrote:
> I must be thick-headed, as I can't see how to do it.  I'm searching for a
>  menu option that says something like "Write all tags to XMP file that
>  LightRoom can read", but there must be some other way to do it.  Any
>  instructions would be greatly appreciated!
>
> BTW, none of my images have any metadata embedded in them, as they are
>  mostly raw

Digikam doesn't support xmp sidecars, yet. To make it work you have to embed
metadata inside of image. digiKam+exiv2 support that (although I understand
this isn't working right for some families of RAW files).

You enable writing of metadata into files in Metadata section of digiKam
configuration.

m.

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2009/8/18 Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:

> On Tuesday 18 August 2009 15:29:59 Paul Waldo wrote:
>> I must be thick-headed, as I can't see how to do it.  I'm searching for a
>>  menu option that says something like "Write all tags to XMP file that
>>  LightRoom can read", but there must be some other way to do it.  Any
>>  instructions would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> BTW, none of my images have any metadata embedded in them, as they are
>>  mostly raw
>
> Digikam doesn't support xmp sidecars, yet.

Mik,

Well, yes and no. For reading, Exiv2 try to find an xmp sidecar file
with same image file name. If sidecar is found, exiv2 use it instead
to read image file.

For writting, nothing is implemented yet.

This is true for last Exiv2 0.18.2

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----- "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2009/8/18 Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:
> > On Tuesday 18 August 2009 15:29:59 Paul Waldo wrote:
> >> I must be thick-headed, as I can't see how to do it.  I'm searching
> for a
> >>  menu option that says something like "Write all tags to XMP file
> that
> >>  LightRoom can read", but there must be some other way to do it.
>  Any
> >>  instructions would be greatly appreciated!
> >>
> >> BTW, none of my images have any metadata embedded in them, as they
> are
> >>  mostly raw
> >
> > Digikam doesn't support xmp sidecars, yet.
>
> Mik,
>
> Well, yes and no. For reading, Exiv2 try to find an xmp sidecar file
> with same image file name. If sidecar is found, exiv2 use it instead
> to read image file.
>
> For writting, nothing is implemented yet.
>
> This is true for last Exiv2 0.18.2
>
> Gilles

OK, no wonder I could not find out how to export the data!  So, there is no way currently to export the tags from my Canon Digital Rebel and Canon Powershot G1 raw files into Lightroom, right?

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On Tuesday 18 August 2009 18:23:49 Paul Waldo wrote:
>
> OK, no wonder I could not find out how to export the data!  So, there is no
>  way currently to export the tags from my Canon Digital Rebel and Canon
>  Powershot G1 raw files into Lightroom, right?

Theoretically there is a way. Use digiKam to write all necessary metadata to
RAW files and later use exiv2 command line tool to extract this metadata to
sidecar files and later import files separately into LR.

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----- "Mikolaj Machowski" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 18 August 2009 18:23:49 Paul Waldo wrote:
> >
> > OK, no wonder I could not find out how to export the data!  So,
> there is no
> >  way currently to export the tags from my Canon Digital Rebel and
> Canon
> >  Powershot G1 raw files into Lightroom, right?
>
> Theoretically there is a way. Use digiKam to write all necessary
> metadata to
> RAW files and later use exiv2 command line tool to extract this
> metadata to
> sidecar files and later import files separately into LR.
>
> m.

Hi Mikolaj,

So this would involve modifying the raw files themselves?  That is very scary for me... :-)

Paul

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If you use CR2, Exiv2 cannot write metadata into this file format. a
sidecar must be used instead

Gilles

2009/8/19 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:

>
> ----- "Mikolaj Machowski" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 18 August 2009 18:23:49 Paul Waldo wrote:
>> >
>> > OK, no wonder I could not find out how to export the data!  So,
>> there is no
>> >  way currently to export the tags from my Canon Digital Rebel and
>> Canon
>> >  Powershot G1 raw files into Lightroom, right?
>>
>> Theoretically there is a way. Use digiKam to write all necessary
>> metadata to
>> RAW files and later use exiv2 command line tool to extract this
>> metadata to
>> sidecar files and later import files separately into LR.
>>
>> m.
>
> Hi Mikolaj,
>
> So this would involve modifying the raw files themselves?  That is very scary for me... :-)
>
> Paul
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[Paul Waldo]

Hi Gilles,

I use CRW, but the only option I see to write metadata is Tools|Write Metadata To All Images.  Will this create sidecars for all my images?

Paul
----- "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If you use CR2, Exiv2 cannot write metadata into this file format. a
> sidecar must be used instead
>
> Gilles
>
> 2009/8/19 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > ----- "Mikolaj Machowski" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday 18 August 2009 18:23:49 Paul Waldo wrote:
> >> >
> >> > OK, no wonder I could not find out how to export the data!  So,
> >> there is no
> >> >  way currently to export the tags from my Canon Digital Rebel
> and
> >> Canon
> >> >  Powershot G1 raw files into Lightroom, right?
> >>
> >> Theoretically there is a way. Use digiKam to write all necessary
> >> metadata to
> >> RAW files and later use exiv2 command line tool to extract this
> >> metadata to
> >> sidecar files and later import files separately into LR.
> >>
> >> m.
> >
> > Hi Mikolaj,
> >
> > So this would involve modifying the raw files themselves?  That is
> very scary for me... :-)
> >
> > Paul
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2009/8/19 Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:
> Hi Gilles,
>
> I use CRW, but the only option I see to write metadata is Tools|Write Metadata To All Images.  Will this create sidecars for all my images?

No, it's not yet implemented. there is a file in bugzilla about.

In fact i'm waiting than Exiv2 implement sidecar writting mode
properlly. in theory, when it will be done, updating Exiv2 as well wil
be enough. I need to contact Exiv2 lead developper to be sure

Gilles
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