KDE code sprint for kde-imaging and digikam

Hi
as you've probably seen in these days we talked about
code sprint. Since i cannot move this year i've proposed
the town in which i live, e.g. Genoa in Italy [1] :)

Valerio and me are members of an association (ALID [2]) that are
hosted by Zenzero at address [3]. Zenzero approved our request and
that means we can host the event.

Now we need to book the room, fixing the event on their calendar, so
we need to to know how many people and when.

Aaron about accomodation, should that be done by us and payed
by kde, or anyone have to think about himself (always sponsored by kde)?

Anyway I believe Gilles is the best one who can write the todo list of the
event, let's call it the aim :)

Gilles told me about some of them:
- finish the digiKam KDE4 porting.
- improve the kipi-plugins KDE4 porting.
- create an general purpose export plugin that implements picasa,
  flickr, Gallery, etc.
- improve libkipi

Sorry Gilles i couldn't get the following one (that i quote here):
- port of libkdcraw to libraw (already started by me but not simple :
http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/libkdcraw-libraw/)

Time should be chosen to best fit and avoid conflicts with the Zenzero events
3 days, two of them during the week-end, e.g. from Friday to Sunday or
from Saturday to Monday.
I've suggested not to do that on October because in Genoa we have
the international boat show [4] and the 25th the Italian Linux day[5].
Anyway from 31/10 to 2/11 could be ok. Please add your preference so that
we can decide soon.

Regards,
        Angelo

P.S. sorry for my cross-posting message.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoa
[2] http://www.alid.it/
[3] http://snipurl.com/3nmrs  [maps_google_it]
or longer
"http://maps.google.it/maps?f=q&hl=it&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Via+Giovanni+Torti,+35,+16143+Genova+Genova,+Liguria,+Italia+(Zenzero)&sll=44.406945,8.964426&sspn=0.010884,0.020792&ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr"
[4] http://www.genoaboatshow.com/?Language=EN&ID=
[5] http://www.linuxday.it/

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On Saturday 06 September 2008, Angelo Naselli wrote:
> Aaron about accomodation, should that be done by us and payed
> by kde, or anyone have to think about himself (always sponsored by kde)?

usually we have the room booked by the people organizing and then KDE e.V.
pays for the accomodation.

for that to happen, however, a proposal with details needs to be sent to kde-
ev-board at kde dot org so the board can approve the request properly.

i already spoke to Gilles about this on irc the other day =)

> Gilles told me about some of them:

sounds great; will there be others there as well, such as perhaps someone from
gwenview? krita?

> Anyway from 31/10 to 2/11 could be ok. Please add your preference so that
> we can decide soon.

well, i personally won't be attending. i just wanted to see some developer
sprints happening for the kdegraphics applications community =)

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sabato 06 settembre 2008, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto:
> On Saturday 06 September 2008, Angelo Naselli wrote:
> > Aaron about accomodation, should that be done by us and payed
> > by kde, or anyone have to think about himself (always sponsored by kde)?
>
> usually we have the room booked by the people organizing and then KDE e.V.
> pays for the accomodation.
Ok, sounds good, i need to check if i can find help for that here then.
 
> for that to happen, however, a proposal with details needs to be sent to kde-
> ev-board at kde dot org so the board can approve the request properly.
>
> i already spoke to Gilles about this on irc the other day =)
eh eh, yes he told me that yestarday, but i have another thing to ask you for
anyway :) Should the proposal contains the accomodation prize? because again
i should know how many and when tp find the hotels or any other solution....

Gilles can we prepare it together? I believe you are the best one who can
get a good proposal, while i can add all about organization here.

> > Gilles told me about some of them:
>
> sounds great; will there be others there as well, such as perhaps someone from
> gwenview? krita?
Well i do hope Aurelien will join us either for kipi-plugins or for gwenview.
 
> > Anyway from 31/10 to 2/11 could be ok. Please add your preference so that
> > we can decide soon.
>
> well, i personally won't be attending. i just wanted to see some developer
> sprints happening for the kdegraphics applications community =)
:)

Angelo



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[Gilles Caulier-4]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Aaron J. Seigo <[hidden email]>
Date: 2008/9/6
Subject: Re: [Kde-imaging] KDE code sprint for kde-imaging and digikam
To: [hidden email]

On Saturday 06 September 2008, Angelo Naselli wrote:
> sabato 06 settembre 2008, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto:
> > On Saturday 06 September 2008, Angelo Naselli wrote:

> > for that to happen, however, a proposal with details needs to be sent to
> > kde- ev-board at kde dot org so the board can approve the request
> > properly.
> >
> > i already spoke to Gilles about this on irc the other day =)
>
> eh eh, yes he told me that yestarday, but i have another thing to ask you
> for anyway :) Should the proposal contains the accomodation prize? because
> again i should know how many and when tp find the hotels or any other
> solution....

yes,the proposal should contain enough information for us (you and the e.V.)
to put together a budget for the event. usually that includes:

* the location for the event

* who is coming, and from where they will be coming from (travel is often a
large component of the expenses)

* the accomodations and their cost

* other costs that might need to be covered

note that we usually don't cover food and drink =)

> > > Gilles told me about some of them:
> >
> > sounds great; will there be others there as well, such as perhaps someone
> > from gwenview? krita?
>
> Well i do hope Aurelien will join us either for kipi-plugins or for
> gwenview.

that would be great.

oh, one other thing we like to see on the attendee list is some new
contributors. we (the e.V. board) see developer sprints as a way to also
introduce new blood into existing projects. we don't want sprints to become a
sort of "old boys club" either. so we usually look for new faces in the crowd
at these events. usually this isn't a problem for projects, but something they
sometimes overlook at first.

a "new person" might be someone who start contributing to the project in the
last year or so or someone who has perhaps been around long than a year but
never been to a face-to-face event with others in the project.

finally, the proposal doesn't need to be long and fancy. in fact, for the e.V.
board's sake we prefer short and to the point. a simple email with all the
relevant facts is usually enough =)

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Subject: Re: [Kde-imaging] KDE code sprint for kde-imaging and digikam
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sabato 06 settembre 2008, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto:

> [...] or someone who has perhaps been around long than a year but

> never been to a face-to-face event with others in the project.

Well I'm one of them then :p

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2008/9/6 Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]>

sabato 06 settembre 2008, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto:

> On Saturday 06 September 2008, Angelo Naselli wrote:
> > Aaron about accomodation, should that be done by us and payed
> > by kde, or anyone have to think about himself (always sponsored by kde)?
>
> usually we have the room booked by the people organizing and then KDE e.V.
> pays for the accomodation.

Ok, sounds good, i need to check if i can find help for that here then.

> for that to happen, however, a proposal with details needs to be sent to kde-
> ev-board at kde dot org so the board can approve the request properly.
>
> i already spoke to Gilles about this on irc the other day =)

eh eh, yes he told me that yestarday, but i have another thing to ask you for
anyway :) Should the proposal contains the accomodation prize? because again
i should know how many and when tp find the hotels or any other solution....

Gilles can we prepare it together?

Sure of course...
 

I believe you are the best one who can
get a good proposal, while i can add all about organization here.

> > Gilles told me about some of them:
>
> sounds great; will there be others there as well, such as perhaps someone from
> gwenview? krita?

Well i do hope Aurelien will join us either for kipi-plugins or for gwenview.

> > Anyway from 31/10 to 2/11 could be ok. Please add your preference so that
> > we can decide soon.

!!! To everybody in these rooms (kde-imaging and digikam-devel) !!!

We need to know avaibilities of people who are interrested by the event !

PLEASE post a message in these rooms if 31/10 to 2/11 are fine for you to come in Italia...

Thanks in advance

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Hi all,

I will not be able to come, but maybe next year if you decide to do something
like this again.

Andi


On Saturday 06 September 2008 23:30:15 Gilles Caulier wrote:

> 2008/9/6 Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]>
>
> > sabato 06 settembre 2008, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto:
> > > On Saturday 06 September 2008, Angelo Naselli wrote:
> > > > Aaron about accomodation, should that be done by us and payed
> > > > by kde, or anyone have to think about himself (always sponsored by
> >
> > kde)?
> >
> > > usually we have the room booked by the people organizing and then KDE
> >
> > e.V.
> >
> > > pays for the accomodation.
> >
> > Ok, sounds good, i need to check if i can find help for that here then.
> >
> > > for that to happen, however, a proposal with details needs to be sent
> > > to
> >
> > kde-
> >
> > > ev-board at kde dot org so the board can approve the request properly.
> > >
> > > i already spoke to Gilles about this on irc the other day =)
> >
> > eh eh, yes he told me that yestarday, but i have another thing to ask you
> > for
> > anyway :) Should the proposal contains the accomodation prize? because
> > again
> > i should know how many and when tp find the hotels or any other
> > solution....
> >
> > Gilles can we prepare it together?
>
> Sure of course...
>
> > I believe you are the best one who can
> > get a good proposal, while i can add all about organization here.
> >
> > > > Gilles told me about some of them:
> > >
> > > sounds great; will there be others there as well, such as perhaps
> > > someone
> >
> > from
> >
> > > gwenview? krita?
> >
> > Well i do hope Aurelien will join us either for kipi-plugins or for
> > gwenview.
> >
> > > > Anyway from 31/10 to 2/11 could be ok. Please add your preference so
> >
> > that
> >
> > > > we can decide soon.
>
> !!! To everybody in these rooms (kde-imaging and digikam-devel) !!!
>
> We need to know avaibilities of people who are interrested by the event !
>
> PLEASE post a message in these rooms if 31/10 to 2/11 are fine for you to
> come in Italia...
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gilles Caulier

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

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Date: 2008/9/7
Subject: Re: [Kde-imaging] KDE code sprint for kde-imaging and digikam
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> a "new person" might be someone who start contributing to the project in
> the last year or so or someone who has perhaps been around long than a year
> but never been to a face-to-face event with others in the project.
>

We have Andi Clement starting as a full developer not longer than a year ago,
and I dont think we ever had a meeting of the full team, at least I have not
ever met anyone from the team face-to-face, unfortunately. Time to change
that!

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> !!! To everybody in these rooms (kde-imaging and digikam-devel) !!!
>
> We need to know avaibilities of people who are interrested by the event !
>
> PLEASE post a message in these rooms if 31/10 to 2/11 are fine for you to
> come in Italia...

Saturday and Sunday are no problem for me.
I cannot know as of now if university makes me attend courses on Friday
afternoon, and I do not know that so far in advance. Other than that, Friday
would be fine as well.

For calculating the budget: I live in Essen, Germany, which means for me going
by plane I assume.

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Gilles Caulier wrote:
> !!! To everybody in these rooms (kde-imaging and digikam-devel) !!!
>
> We need to know avaibilities of people who are interrested by the event !
>
> PLEASE post a message in these rooms if 31/10 to 2/11 are fine for you
> to come in Italia...

Well these dates are fine for me. I've got plans later in November but
this weekend is fine.

That said, as I've not contributed code for quite some time, I'd feel a
little guilty taking up this offer. That said, I'm still very keen to
get the synchronisation stuff working well as because this has been on
my mind for so long, the lack of it is actually *stopping* me sharing my
photos with friends which in turn stops me *taking* them sometimes! It's
brutally ironic that my own lack of productivity is actually what is
holding me back!

But that aside, I think if we can get the ideas arranged prior to
meeting up we can have a very productive time and get a whole heap done :)

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On Saturday 06 September 2008 23:30:15 Gilles Caulier wrote:

> !!! To everybody in these rooms (kde-imaging and digikam-devel) !!!
>
> We need to know avaibilities of people who are interrested by the event !
>
> PLEASE post a message in these rooms if 31/10 to 2/11 are fine for you to
> come in Italia...
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gilles Caulier

For me that week end it's okay, so I'll be there! I'm from Italy (Senigallia,
in the Adriatic Sea), so the travel should not to be a big problem..

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

Ok course for me, date sound fine for me for the moment. I will back from Marseille by train (400 Kms to Genoa)

Gilles

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On Saturday 06 September 2008 23:30:15 Gilles Caulier wrote:

> !!! To everybody in these rooms (kde-imaging and digikam-devel) !!!
>
> We need to know avaibilities of people who are interrested by the event !
>
> PLEASE post a message in these rooms if 31/10 to 2/11 are fine for you to
> come in Italia...
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gilles Caulier

For me that week end it's okay, so I'll be there! I'm from Italy (Senigallia,
in the Adriatic Sea), so the travel should not to be a big problem..

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domenica 07 settembre 2008 alle 19:05, Gilles Caulier ha scritto:
> Ok course for me, date sound fine for me for the moment. I will back from
> Marseille by train (400 Kms to Genoa)
>
> Gilles
hmm i believe you're nearer than Andrea :)

btw, there's a thing i'd like to understand. The event can't be too long, and
that's ok and clear to me too. Anyway three days, means two night. Now
the travel can take long, and that could take time to the first day, and the last
of course, so the coding time will be reduced to one day and something more
(almost two days, not more i believe). Is that ok?

Angelo

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2008/9/8 Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]>

domenica 07 settembre 2008 alle 19:05, Gilles Caulier ha scritto:

> Ok course for me, date sound fine for me for the moment. I will back from
> Marseille by train (400 Kms to Genoa)
>
> Gilles

hmm i believe you're nearer than Andrea :)

btw, there's a thing i'd like to understand. The event can't be too long, and
that's ok and clear to me too. Anyway three days, means two night. Now
the travel can take long, and that could take time to the first day, and the last
of course, so the coding time will be reduced to one day and something more
(almost two days, not more i believe). Is that ok?

Yes, you are right. This will reduce coding time to 2 days.

This is why we need to know exactly when contributor will come and back.

Other problem is to have an idea of cost of travel and accomodation for KDE-ev.

We need to post here all questions in a template document. All contributors fill the doc and return informations here

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lunedì 08 settembre 2008 alle 11:27, Gilles Caulier ha scritto:

> 2008/9/8 Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]>
>
> > domenica 07 settembre 2008 alle 19:05, Gilles Caulier ha scritto:
> > > Ok course for me, date sound fine for me for the moment. I will back from
> > > Marseille by train (400 Kms to Genoa)
> > >
> > > Gilles
> > hmm i believe you're nearer than Andrea :)
> >
> > btw, there's a thing i'd like to understand. The event can't be too long,
> > and
> > that's ok and clear to me too. Anyway three days, means two night. Now
> > the travel can take long, and that could take time to the first day, and
> > the last
> > of course, so the coding time will be reduced to one day and something more
> > (almost two days, not more i believe). Is that ok?
>
>
> Yes, you are right. This will reduce coding time to 2 days.
>
> This is why we need to know exactly when contributor will come and back.

yes, and the list of contriburs as well.
>
> Other problem is to have an idea of cost of travel and accomodation for
> KDE-ev.
well for accomodation i need to know at least how many to start asking for it
or to hotels or to travel agency.

> We need to post here all questions in a template document. All contributors
> fill the doc and return informations here
I propose at least:
Name - from - project - preferred date

We wil collect them so that we can start evaluating.

Angelo
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I will be able to attend the event as far as time constrainsts are concerned, I have only recently applied for a Schengen Visa so that might be a concern however.

In case I do get a VISA :) :

Name:
      Vardhman Jain

From
       Country: India (city : Hyderabad or Bombay or Bangalore, whichever has better flight)

Project:
       Kipi plugins (Flickr export/ Picasa exports)

Preferred Date:
       I am fine with 31st to 2nd.


regards,
Vardhman

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]> wrote:

lunedì 08 settembre 2008 alle 11:27, Gilles Caulier ha scritto:
> 2008/9/8 Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]>
>
> > domenica 07 settembre 2008 alle 19:05, Gilles Caulier ha scritto:
> > > Ok course for me, date sound fine for me for the moment. I will back from
> > > Marseille by train (400 Kms to Genoa)
> > >
> > > Gilles
> > hmm i believe you're nearer than Andrea :)
> >
> > btw, there's a thing i'd like to understand. The event can't be too long,
> > and
> > that's ok and clear to me too. Anyway three days, means two night. Now
> > the travel can take long, and that could take time to the first day, and
> > the last
> > of course, so the coding time will be reduced to one day and something more
> > (almost two days, not more i believe). Is that ok?
>
>
> Yes, you are right. This will reduce coding time to 2 days.
>
> This is why we need to know exactly when contributor will come and back.
yes, and the list of contriburs as well.
>
> Other problem is to have an idea of cost of travel and accomodation for
> KDE-ev.
well for accomodation i need to know at least how many to start asking for it
or to hotels or to travel agency.

> We need to post here all questions in a template document. All contributors
> fill the doc and return informations here
I propose at least:
Name - from - project - preferred date

We wil collect them so that we can start evaluating.

Angelo

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> From
>        Country: India (city : Hyderabad or Bombay or Bangalore, whichever
> has better flight)
Just out of curiosity how many flying hours to Milan (i doubt there is a flight to Genoa)
for instance?

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2008/9/8 Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]>

> From
>        Country: India (city : Hyderabad or Bombay or Bangalore, whichever
> has better flight)

Just out of curiosity how many flying hours to Milan (i doubt there is a flight to Genoa)
for instance?

If i remember, Jain do a trip around the world and come to Paris during October. Paris is not so far than Genoa (:=)))

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lunedì 08 settembre 2008 alle 13:10, Gilles Caulier ha scritto:

> 2008/9/8 Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]>
>
> >
> > > From
> > >        Country: India (city : Hyderabad or Bombay or Bangalore, whichever
> > > has better flight)
> > Just out of curiosity how many flying hours to Milan (i doubt there is a
> > flight to Genoa)
> > for instance?
> >
>
> If i remember, Jain do a trip around the world and come to Paris during
> October. Paris is not so far than Genoa (:=)))

Well if he is already in Paris, the cost should be less then, but we need to know it

before making a proposal.

Angelo




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On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

2008/9/8 Angelo Naselli <[hidden email]>

> From
>        Country: India (city : Hyderabad or Bombay or Bangalore, whichever
> has better flight)

Just out of curiosity how many flying hours to Milan (i doubt there is a flight to Genoa)
for instance?

If i remember, Jain do a trip around the world and come to Paris during October. Paris is not so far than Genoa (:=)))

Well, if things go as planned, my trip to/fro from Paris is currently scheduled to be like October 7th to 14th. Then I would be back to India. There is very little chance of me extending my trip in France to make it extended to 22rd to 29th October and then merge the two trips.

My tentative personal France visit is an extention of my business trip to US, its not a world tour of any sort  :)

As per flying hours, I guess something close to 10 hrs :) They do have flights to CDG airport(France) and I don't mind travelling from there to Italy (All depends on what my VISA allows me too :))


Vardhman

Gilles

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