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Importing F-Spot tags to DigiKam

Dotan Cohen
I'm seriously considering converting to DigiKam 0.9.0 from the
wonderful F-Spot. It is paramount that my 500+ tags on 8000+ images be
imported from F-Spot. The tags are currently stored in XMP format in
the photos themselves, and in the F-Spot sqlite database. What must I
do to import the tags? The heiarchy is not so important, as I can
reproduce that fairly easily. Thanks in advance.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: Importing F-Spot tags to DigiKam

Gilles Caulier-2
Le mardi 16 janvier 2007 17:32, Dotan Cohen a écrit :
> I'm seriously considering converting to DigiKam 0.9.0 from the
> wonderful F-Spot. It is paramount that my 500+ tags on 8000+ images be
> imported from F-Spot. The tags are currently stored in XMP format in
> the photos themselves, and in the F-Spot sqlite database. What must I
> do to import the tags? The heiarchy is not so important, as I can
> reproduce that fairly easily. Thanks in advance.
>

Well, digiKAm do not support yet XMP. All pictures metadata are supported by
digiKam core using Exiv2 library. This library need to be updated for that.
There is a wish in Exiv2 bugzilla about this subject :

http://dev.robotbattle.com/bugs/view.php?id=463

Personally, i think than XMP _must_ be supported by Exiv2 and digiKam. It very
important.

Actually digiKam/Exiv2 support IPTC/IIM metadata, witch are the old IPTC
schema. XMP is the new IPTC schema designed by Adobe...

If you want to import your XMP info to digiKam, a solution is to write a
little script witch use ExifTool to copy XMP informations to IPTC/IIM in you
pictures.

When you will start the first digiKam instance with your pictures, IPTC
metadata will be parsed and the right digiKAm tags will be automaticly add to
digiKam database.

Regards

Gilles Caulier
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Re: Importing F-Spot tags to DigiKam

Dotan Cohen
On 17/01/07, Caulier Gilles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le mardi 16 janvier 2007 17:32, Dotan Cohen a écrit:
> > I'm seriously considering converting to DigiKam 0.9.0 from the
> > wonderful F-Spot. It is paramount that my 500+ tags on 8000+ images be
> > imported from F-Spot. The tags are currently stored in XMP format in
> > the photos themselves, and in the F-Spot sqlite database. What must I
> > do to import the tags? The heiarchy is not so important, as I can
> > reproduce that fairly easily. Thanks in advance.
> >
>
> Well, digiKAm do not support yet XMP. All pictures metadata are supported by
> digiKam core using Exiv2 library. This library need to be updated for that.
> There is a wish in Exiv2 bugzilla about this subject :
>
> http://dev.robotbattle.com/bugs/view.php?id=463
>
> Personally, i think than XMP _must_ be supported by Exiv2 and digiKam. It very
> important.
>
> Actually digiKam/Exiv2 support IPTC/IIM metadata, witch are the old IPTC
> schema. XMP is the new IPTC schema designed by Adobe...
>
> If you want to import your XMP info to digiKam, a solution is to write a
> little script witch use ExifTool to copy XMP informations to IPTC/IIM in you
> pictures.
>
> When you will start the first digiKam instance with your pictures, IPTC
> metadata will be parsed and the right digiKAm tags will be automaticly add to
> digiKam database.
>
> Regards
>
> Gilles Caulier

Thanks Gilles. Actually, most of the pictures haveIPTC data as well,
but it is not showing up as tags. It does show up in
Metadata->IPTC->Contact but in the wrong charset. The IPTC data is
Hebrew stored in UTF-8 (as IPTC always is UTF-8), however Digikam
tries to display it as ISO-8859-8, which leads to me seeing
X-giberish-X-giberish-X. See the the 8th example on this page:
http://dotancohen.com/heb/encoding.php
It's in Hebrew, but it's an example of UTF-8 text being displayed as ISO-8859-8.

I went looking for the Digikam database but it's not in
~/.kde/share/apps/digikam. Where is it? I might just run a few queries
on the sqlite database to inject the tags.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: Importing F-Spot tags to DigiKam

Gilles Caulier-2
Le mercredi 17 janvier 2007 16:04, Dotan Cohen a écrit :

> On 17/01/07, Caulier Gilles <[hidden email]> wrote:> Le mardi
> 16 janvier 2007 17:32, Dotan Cohen a écrit:> > I'm seriously considering
> converting to DigiKam 0.9.0 from the> > wonderful F-Spot. It is paramount
> that my 500+ tags on 8000+ images be> > imported from F-Spot. The tags are
> currently stored in XMP format in> > the photos themselves, and in the
> F-Spot sqlite database. What must I> > do to import the tags? The heiarchy
> is not so important, as I can> > reproduce that fairly easily. Thanks in
> advance.> >>> Well, digiKAm do not support yet XMP. All pictures metadata
> are supported by> digiKam core using Exiv2 library. This library need to be
> updated for that.> There is a wish in Exiv2 bugzilla about this subject :>>
> http://dev.robotbattle.com/bugs/view.php?id=463>> Personally, i think than
> XMP _must_ be supported by Exiv2 and digiKam. It very> important.>>
> Actually digiKam/Exiv2 support IPTC/IIM metadata, witch are the old IPTC>
> schema. XMP is the new IPTC schema designed by Adobe...>> If you want to
> import your XMP info to digiKam, a solution is to write a> little script
> witch use ExifTool to copy XMP informations to IPTC/IIM in you> pictures.>>
> When you will start the first digiKam instance with your pictures, IPTC>
> metadata will be parsed and the right digiKAm tags will be automaticly add
> to> digiKam database.>> Regards>> Gilles Caulier

> Thanks Gilles. Actually,
> most of the pictures haveIPTC data as well,but it is not showing up as
> tags. It does show up inMetadata->IPTC->Contact but in the wrong charset.
> The IPTC data isHebrew stored in UTF-8 (as IPTC always is UTF-8), however
> Digikamtries to display it as ISO-8859-8, which leads to me
> seeingX-giberish-X-giberish-X. See the the 8th example on this
> page:http://dotancohen.com/heb/encoding.phpIt's in Hebrew, but it's an
> example of UTF-8 text being displayed as ISO-8859-8. I went looking for the
> Digikam database but it's not in~/.kde/share/apps/digikam. Where is it? I
> might just run a few querieson the sqlite database to inject the tags.
> Dotan Cohen

Yes, i know the problem. In fact the UTF-8 problem is know.

IPTC UTF-8 support is not clear in IPTC/IIM spec. We have found a solution in
this B.K.O report :

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132244

It's not yet corrected in current implementation. I will try to do it before
0.9.1 release date.

I will very interressed if you can post comments in this B.K.O file, for
example, to attach some pictures with UTF8 IPTC char-set.

Gilles

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Re: Importing F-Spot tags to DigiKam

Dotan Cohen
On 17/01/07, Caulier Gilles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le mercredi 17 janvier 2007 16:04, Dotan Cohen a écrit:
> > On 17/01/07, Caulier Gilles <[hidden email]> wrote:> Le mardi
> > 16 janvier 2007 17:32, Dotan Cohen a écrit:> > I'm seriously considering
> > converting to DigiKam 0.9.0 from the> > wonderful F-Spot. It is paramount
> > that my 500+ tags on 8000+ images be> > imported from F-Spot. The tags are
> > currently stored in XMP format in> > the photos themselves, and in the
> > F-Spot sqlite database. What must I> > do to import the tags? The heiarchy
> > is not so important, as I can> > reproduce that fairly easily. Thanks in
> > advance.> >>> Well, digiKAm do not support yet XMP. All pictures metadata
> > are supported by> digiKam core using Exiv2 library. This library need to be
> > updated for that.> There is a wish in Exiv2 bugzilla about this subject :>>
> > http://dev.robotbattle.com/bugs/view.php?id=463>> Personally, i think than
> > XMP _must_ be supported by Exiv2 and digiKam. It very> important.>>
> > Actually digiKam/Exiv2 support IPTC/IIM metadata, witch are the old IPTC>
> > schema. XMP is the new IPTC schema designed by Adobe...>> If you want to
> > import your XMP info to digiKam, a solution is to write a> little script
> > witch use ExifTool to copy XMP informations to IPTC/IIM in you> pictures.>>
> > When you will start the first digiKam instance with your pictures, IPTC>
> > metadata will be parsed and the right digiKAm tags will be automaticly add
> > to> digiKam database.>> Regards>> Gilles Caulier
>
> > Thanks Gilles. Actually,
> > most of the pictures haveIPTC data as well,but it is not showing up as
> > tags. It does show up inMetadata->IPTC->Contact but in the wrong charset.
> > The IPTC data isHebrew stored in UTF-8 (as IPTC always is UTF-8), however
> > Digikamtries to display it as ISO-8859-8, which leads to me
> > seeingX-giberish-X-giberish-X. See the the 8th example on this
> > page:http://dotancohen.com/heb/encoding.phpIt's in Hebrew, but it's an
> > example of UTF-8 text being displayed as ISO-8859-8. I went looking for the
> > Digikam database but it's not in~/.kde/share/apps/digikam. Where is it? I
> > might just run a few querieson the sqlite database to inject the tags.
> > Dotan Cohen
>
> Yes, i know the problem. In fact the UTF-8 problem is know.
>
> IPTC UTF-8 support is not clear in IPTC/IIM spec. We have found a solution in
> this B.K.O report :
>
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132244
>
> It's not yet corrected in current implementation. I will try to do it before
> 0.9.1 release date.
>
> I will very interressed if you can post comments in this B.K.O file, for
> example, to attach some pictures with UTF8 IPTC char-set.
>
> Gilles
>

No problem. They'll be in Hebrew, but I'll make the photos images of
what the word should look like if it is displayed properly. I'm at the
university now, I'll get on it as soon as I get home.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: Importing F-Spot tags to DigiKam

Dotan Cohen
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On 17/01/07, Caulier Gilles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, i know the problem. In fact the UTF-8 problem is know.
>
> IPTC UTF-8 support is not clear in IPTC/IIM spec. We have found a solution in
> this B.K.O report :
>
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132244
>
> It's not yet corrected in current implementation. I will try to do it before
> 0.9.1 release date.
>
> I will very interressed if you can post comments in this B.K.O file, for
> example, to attach some pictures with UTF8 IPTC char-set.

I uploaded two files: one with Hebrew IPTC tags and the other with
English. Both are UTF-8.

Dotan Cohen

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