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Steven Theisen
I have been fiddling with digiKam 1.2.0 on Ubuntu 10.04 for several hours today to try and set my metadata properly so that uploads to Flickr will contain the title I desire, rather then the filename.

I have tried the IPTC "Headline" field as well as the EXIF "Document Name" field both without success.

Could someone please help me understand which field I need to modify, and how I can fit this easily into my daily work flow? 

I found this and it looks like this will be exactly what I need: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155374
Has this been released in the Kipi Plugins?  If not is there a way I can patch mine?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.  I am trying to move from ACDSee to DigiKam and need this functionality and a stable work flow to do so.

Regards,
Steven Theisen



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Re: Image Title MetaData

Steven Theisen
Am I asking something stupid here, or is this just being ignored for
some reason?
I don't mean to sound rude or unappreciative...

On 05/07/2010 12:16 AM, Steven Theisen wrote:

> I have been fiddling with digiKam 1.2.0 on Ubuntu 10.04 for several
> hours today to try and set my metadata properly so that uploads to
> Flickr will contain the title I desire, rather then the filename.
>
> I have tried the IPTC "Headline" field as well as the EXIF "Document
> Name" field both without success.
>
> Could someone please help me understand which field I need to modify,
> and how I can fit this easily into my daily work flow?
>
> I found this and it looks like this will be exactly what I need:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155374
> Has this been released in the Kipi Plugins?  If not is there a way I
> can patch mine?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.  I am trying to move from
> ACDSee to DigiKam and need this functionality and a stable work flow
> to do so.
>
> Regards,
> Steven Theisen
>
>

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Tim Jenness
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If you know that ACDSee was giving you the correct titles on flickr but digikam doesn't then I think the best thing is to use exiv2 or exiftool to list the full header of a file that works on Flickr to find out exactly which item ACDSee is setting.

Tim

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Steven Theisen <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have been fiddling with digiKam 1.2.0 on Ubuntu 10.04 for several hours today to try and set my metadata properly so that uploads to Flickr will contain the title I desire, rather then the filename.

I have tried the IPTC "Headline" field as well as the EXIF "Document Name" field both without success.

Could someone please help me understand which field I need to modify, and how I can fit this easily into my daily work flow? 

I found this and it looks like this will be exactly what I need: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155374
Has this been released in the Kipi Plugins?  If not is there a way I can patch mine?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.  I am trying to move from ACDSee to DigiKam and need this functionality and a stable work flow to do so.

Regards,
Steven Theisen



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Steven Theisen
Tim,

First of all thanks for the reply.  I love digikam and want it to be my new photo album software. My big question for everyone was in relation to this bug I found.  It looks like others have addressed this, but I'm fairly certain this fix is NOT part of the 1.2.0 kipi-plugin release?

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155374

I have been looking at the metatags like crazy trying to understand what the difference is, and I am stumped! At this point I am convinced that the tage contents make no difference.  I have uploaded the exact same image using digikam and ACDSee with the following IPTC tag set:

exiv2 -p a  100301-191512_7468.JPG | grep -i spinning
Iptc.Application2.Headline                   String     12  Two Spinning
ACDSee works, digikam does not.  The reason in my case is clearly the plugin.  The ACDsee Flickr plugin as a drop down for the user to choose what to use as the image title on Flickr. The options are:
Filename (default)
IPTC Headline
ACDSee Caption

The kipi-plugin offers no such option. Setting the "headline" IPTC tag in Image>Metadata>Edit IPTC does not work either, Flickr seems to ignore it. 

I would love to hear Gilles Caulier, or Siu Chung comments on this item.



On 05/08/2010 12:47 PM, Tim Jenness wrote:
If you know that ACDSee was giving you the correct titles on flickr but digikam doesn't then I think the best thing is to use exiv2 or exiftool to list the full header of a file that works on Flickr to find out exactly which item ACDSee is setting.

Tim

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Steven Theisen <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have been fiddling with digiKam 1.2.0 on Ubuntu 10.04 for several hours today to try and set my metadata properly so that uploads to Flickr will contain the title I desire, rather then the filename.

I have tried the IPTC "Headline" field as well as the EXIF "Document Name" field both without success.

Could someone please help me understand which field I need to modify, and how I can fit this easily into my daily work flow? 

I found this and it looks like this will be exactly what I need: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155374
Has this been released in the Kipi Plugins?  If not is there a way I can patch mine?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.  I am trying to move from ACDSee to DigiKam and need this functionality and a stable work flow to do so.

Regards,
Steven Theisen



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Re: Image Title MetaData

Gilles Caulier-4
Why digiKam & co do not handle Headline to set caption as well : look
IPTC tags description :

0x0069 105 Iptc.Application2.Headline String No No 0 256 A
publishable entry providing a synopsis of the contents of the object
data.

0x0078 120 Iptc.Application2.Caption String No No 0 2000 A
textual description of the object data.

...from http://www.exiv2.org/iptc.html

To resume, headline is limited to 256 char, where Caption is limited
to 2000 char !

Headline is a resume, not the right place to set a caption or full description.

Why Flickr (or picasaweb) use Headline as caption tag ? I don't know,
but i suspect that both don't understand properly what's the metadata
are delegate for.

In fact IPTC are deprecated since a long time and XMP must be used
instead, for a simple reason : IPTC do not support UTF8 and use only
ASCII. Also IPTC string size are limited. These problem do not exist
with XMP...

Now, look how digiKam set caption in image metadata :

http://lxr.kde.org/source/extragear/graphics/digikam/libs/dmetadata/dmetadata.cpp#251

Gilles Caulier
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