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How to add a vignette?

gerlos
Hello everyone!
Does anybody know how to *add* a vignette or to darken borders in
digiKam? Or I have to use Gimp for these things?

I'm using digiKam version 0.9.4.


Thanks to everyone!
gerlos
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Re: How to add a vignette?

Arnd Baecker
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, gerlos wrote:

> Hello everyone!
> Does anybody know how to *add* a vignette or to darken borders in
> digiKam? Or I have to use Gimp for these things?
>
> I'm using digiKam version 0.9.4.

For 0.9.5 from svn (and I think for 0.9.4 as well),
Image Editor/Enhance/Vignetting Correction
might do what you want.

Best, Arnd
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Re: How to add a vignette?

jc-21
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:18:02 -0000, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, gerlos wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>> Does anybody know how to *add* a vignette or to darken borders in
>> digiKam? Or I have to use Gimp for these things?
>>
>> I'm using digiKam version 0.9.4.
>
> For 0.9.5 from svn (and I think for 0.9.4 as well),
> Image Editor/Enhance/Vignetting Correction
> might do what you want.
>
> Best, Arnd
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The vignetting tool seems to be just for correcting unwanted vignetting ie  
it lightens borders. I can'r see any way of reversing it so that it adds  
vignetting by darkening borders.

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Re: How to add a vignette?

Arnd Baecker
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Martin wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:18:02 -0000, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, gerlos wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone!
> >> Does anybody know how to *add* a vignette or to darken borders in
> >> digiKam? Or I have to use Gimp for these things?
> >>
> >> I'm using digiKam version 0.9.4.
> >
> > For 0.9.5 from svn (and I think for 0.9.4 as well),
> > Image Editor/Enhance/Vignetting Correction
> > might do what you want.
> >
> > Best, Arnd

> The vignetting tool seems to be just for correcting unwanted vignetting ie
> it lightens borders. I can'r see any way of reversing it so that it adds
> vignetting by darkening borders.

Yes, you are right....

Actually, when playing around with it, I observed two issues:
- negative radius: does not seem to have any effect?
- when pressing "Defaults", the view is not updated.

To come back to the originial question: For adding vignette,
could this be realized by extending the range of any of the sliders
(e.g. a negative density?) or do we need a checkbox
for this "inverted" purpose?

Unless there is a way to add vignette in some way,
could you please file a new wish in the bug-tracker so
that it is not forgotten?

Best, Arnd
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Re: How to add a vignette?

Gilles Caulier-4


2008/11/20 Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Martin wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:18:02 -0000, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, gerlos wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone!
> >> Does anybody know how to *add* a vignette or to darken borders in
> >> digiKam? Or I have to use Gimp for these things?
> >>
> >> I'm using digiKam version 0.9.4.
> >
> > For 0.9.5 from svn (and I think for 0.9.4 as well),
> > Image Editor/Enhance/Vignetting Correction
> > might do what you want.
> >
> > Best, Arnd

> The vignetting tool seems to be just for correcting unwanted vignetting ie
> it lightens borders. I can'r see any way of reversing it so that it adds
> vignetting by darkening borders.

Yes, you are right....

Actually, when playing around with it, I observed two issues:
- negative radius: does not seem to have any effect?
- when pressing "Defaults", the view is not updated.

To come back to the originial question: For adding vignette,
could this be realized by extending the range of any of the sliders
(e.g. a negative density?) or do we need a checkbox
for this "inverted" purpose?

Unless there is a way to add vignette in some way,
could you please file a new wish in the bug-tracker so
that it is not forgotten?

Arnd,

yes, it's possible to add vignetting with current algorithm from this tool. I have just limited slider for that, because... i cannot see why a photograph want to _add_ vignetting to an image.

So it's a 5 mns fix to do (:=)))

Gilles


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Re: How to add a vignette?

Bugzilla from Julien@narboux.fr

>
> Arnd,
>
> yes, it's possible to add vignetting with current algorithm from this
> tool. I have just limited slider for that, because... i cannot see why
> a photograph want to _add_ vignetting to an image.
>
> So it's a 5 mns fix to do (:=)))
>
> Gilles
>
>  
Gilles,

It may sound strange, but adding vignetting is a very common practice to
focus the attention on the center of the picture.
Here are examples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryoh/2266736840/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcdead/2937496253/

Julien
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Re: How to add a vignette?

Bugzilla from andi.clemens@gmx.net
In reply to this post by Gilles Caulier-4
But wouldn't it then be an effect? Not a correction?
So actually this should be a different menu entry...

Andi

On Thursday 20 November 2008 07:55:18 Gilles Caulier wrote:

> 2008/11/20 Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>
>
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Martin wrote:
> > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:18:02 -0000, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, gerlos wrote:
> > > >> Hello everyone!
> > > >> Does anybody know how to *add* a vignette or to darken borders in
> > > >> digiKam? Or I have to use Gimp for these things?
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm using digiKam version 0.9.4.
> > > >
> > > > For 0.9.5 from svn (and I think for 0.9.4 as well),
> > > > Image Editor/Enhance/Vignetting Correction
> > > > might do what you want.
> > > >
> > > > Best, Arnd
> > >
> > > The vignetting tool seems to be just for correcting unwanted vignetting
> >
> > ie
> >
> > > it lightens borders. I can'r see any way of reversing it so that it
> > > adds vignetting by darkening borders.
> >
> > Yes, you are right....
> >
> > Actually, when playing around with it, I observed two issues:
> > - negative radius: does not seem to have any effect?
> > - when pressing "Defaults", the view is not updated.
> >
> > To come back to the originial question: For adding vignette,
> > could this be realized by extending the range of any of the sliders
> > (e.g. a negative density?) or do we need a checkbox
> > for this "inverted" purpose?
> >
> > Unless there is a way to add vignette in some way,
> > could you please file a new wish in the bug-tracker so
> > that it is not forgotten?
>
> Arnd,
>
> yes, it's possible to add vignetting with current algorithm from this tool.
> I have just limited slider for that, because... i cannot see why a
> photograph want to _add_ vignetting to an image.
>
> So it's a 5 mns fix to do (:=)))
>
> Gilles

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Re: How to add a vignette?

Gilles Caulier-4


2008/11/20 Andi Clemens <[hidden email]>
But wouldn't it then be an effect? Not a correction?
So actually this should be a different menu entry...

This is why current tool is in Fix menu (:=)))

My first idea is to provide a tool to fix pictures...

Gilles


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Re: How to add a vignette?

gerlos
In reply to this post by Bugzilla from Julien@narboux.fr
Julien Narboux ha scritto:

>> Arnd,
>>
>> yes, it's possible to add vignetting with current algorithm from this
>> tool. I have just limited slider for that, because... i cannot see why
>> a photograph want to _add_ vignetting to an image.
>>
>> So it's a 5 mns fix to do (:=)))
>>
>> Gilles
>>
>>  
>>    
> Gilles,
>
> It may sound strange, but adding vignetting is a very common practice to
> focus the attention on the center of the picture.
> Here are examples:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryoh/2266736840/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcdead/2937496253/
>  
Here some more examples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerlos/2921951420/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerlos/2256996498/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerlos/2882308359/

Julien is right... Even Ansel Adams suggested to darken the borders of
the prints to "don't let the eyes wandering outside of the photo". I
love this technique because make the shot look less "flat", and a lot of
people usually make the borders slightly darker (many times you won't
even notice it, you need to see the original to see the change).

Really, it would be great if we could do a feather selection of part of
the image and let some tools act *only* on it or only on the remaining
part of the image (just as an inverted selection). For example, for
darkening borders I could select the central part of the image, invert
the selection, and use the curves tool to get the desired effect.

This way we could do a lot more things, without the need to add more
tools. In this moment I don't see any use for the selection tool in
digiKam, but maybe I didn't look carefully enough...


Do you think I should add these wishes to the bug-tracker? Sorry if it's
not a new idea...

regards
gerlos

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