Giving my wife access from her WINDOWS computer ?

[Linuxguy123]

I'm looking for ideas on how my wife could have access to the images
that I store in Digikam from her Windows computer.

Preferably I would be able to control some aspects of her access such as
she could edit tags but not delete anything ?

She is running Windows 7, if that makes any difference.

Thanks

LG

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[Brano]

On 10-06-22 01:15 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

> I'm looking for ideas on how my wife could have access to the images
> that I store in Digikam from her Windows computer.
>
> Preferably I would be able to control some aspects of her access such as
> she could edit tags but not delete anything ?
>
> She is running Windows 7, if that makes any difference.
>
> Thanks
>
> LG
>    

For now, I have a read-only share for my wife where she's accessing the
pictures.
She has her own DB on local drive. This is with digikam 1.2 This allows
here to create her own tags.
Once in a while I switch the share to read-write and sync her tags to
files. Then I sync my tags from files back to my DB.
Not a perfect solution but works nicely for us.

Later I'm planning to get us on shared DB with digikam 1.3.
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[Linuxguy123]

On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 14:07 -0400, Brano wrote:

> On 10-06-22 01:15 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > I'm looking for ideas on how my wife could have access to the images
> > that I store in Digikam from her Windows computer.
> >
> > Preferably I would be able to control some aspects of her access such as
> > she could edit tags but not delete anything ?
> >
> > She is running Windows 7, if that makes any difference.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > LG
> >    
> For now, I have a read-only share for my wife where she's accessing the
> pictures.
> She has her own DB on local drive.

Is she running Digikam on her Windows machine ?

>  This is with digikam 1.2 This allows
> here to create her own tags.

I'll have to investigate that.

> Once in a while I switch the share to read-write and sync her tags to
> files. Then I sync my tags from files back to my DB.
> Not a perfect solution but works nicely for us.

Very interesting.  Thanks for sharing.

> Later I'm planning to get us on shared DB with digikam 1.3.

Tell me more, please.



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[Brano]

On 10-06-22 03:18 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 14:07 -0400, Brano wrote:
>    
>> On 10-06-22 01:15 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
>>      
>>> I'm looking for ideas on how my wife could have access to the images
>>> that I store in Digikam from her Windows computer.
>>>
>>> Preferably I would be able to control some aspects of her access such as
>>> she could edit tags but not delete anything ?
>>>
>>> She is running Windows 7, if that makes any difference.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> LG
>>>
>>>        
>> For now, I have a read-only share for my wife where she's accessing the
>> pictures.
>> She has her own DB on local drive.
>>      
> Is she running Digikam on her Windows machine ?
>    

Actually, my whife is running linux on her netbook ;)

>    
>>   This is with digikam 1.2 This allows
>> here to create her own tags.
>>      
> I'll have to investigate that.
>
>    
>> Once in a while I switch the share to read-write and sync her tags to
>> files. Then I sync my tags from files back to my DB.
>> Not a perfect solution but works nicely for us.
>>      
> Very interesting.  Thanks for sharing.
>
>    
>> Later I'm planning to get us on shared DB with digikam 1.3.
>>      
> Tell me more, please.
>    

Digikam 1.3 supports SQL backend with multiple users. So the plan is to
have one DB only on shared disk with read/write access for both,
pictures will be read only for her (or both for added security).

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[Linuxguy123]

On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 15:38 -0400, Brano wrote:
> Is she running Digikam on her Windows machine ?
> >    
> Actually, my whife is running linux on her netbook ;)

Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows
computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?

Thanks !

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You do know that digiKam is available for Windows? It's part of the KDE on Windows project.





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On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 15:38 -0400, Brano wrote:

> Is she running Digikam on her Windows machine ?

> >    

> Actually, my whife is running linux on her netbook ;)



Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows

computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?



Thanks !



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[Gilles Caulier-4]

And to compile it as under linux, look there :

http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/525

Gilles Caulier

2010/6/23 Peter Shute <[hidden email]>:

> You do know that digiKam is available for Windows? It's part of the KDE on Windows project.
>
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> On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 15:38 -0400, Brano wrote:
>> Is she running Digikam on her Windows machine ?
>> >
>> Actually, my whife is running linux on her netbook ;)
>
> Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows
> computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?
>
> Thanks !
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[Linuxguy123]

On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 08:55 +1000, Peter Shute wrote:
> You do know that digiKam is available for Windows? It's part of the KDE on Windows project.

I knew about that but I don't hear about many people using it that way.
Does it work ?  Well ?

I was hoping that someone would have jumped on my question and said that
they were/are running it on Windows and its great.   I was also hoping
to hear that someone had true multi user access working, but I guess its
not done yet and the move to the new database format is probably the
first part of that effort ?



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[pshute]

I used it for a while, and it was mostly ok, especially if one was just viewing and tagging. My main complaint is about distribution of new versions. It was always a struggle to get them unless I was prepared to wait a long time for it to be included in the KDE package. Linux users seem to have less problems with that.



I never tried to share it though.





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On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 08:55 +1000, Peter Shute wrote:

> You do know that digiKam is available for Windows? It's part of the KDE on Windows project.



I knew about that but I don't hear about many people using it that way.

Does it work ?  Well ?



I was hoping that someone would have jumped on my question and said that

they were/are running it on Windows and its great.   I was also hoping

to hear that someone had true multi user access working, but I guess its

not done yet and the move to the new database format is probably the

first part of that effort ?







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[Andrew Goodbody]

On 23/06/2010 07:05, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 08:55 +1000, Peter Shute wrote:
>> You do know that digiKam is available for Windows? It's part of the KDE on Windows project.
>
> I knew about that but I don't hear about many people using it that way.
> Does it work ?  Well ?

I use it on Windows. It's good but not great - yet. Try it and see how
you get on with it.

> I was hoping that someone would have jumped on my question and said that
> they were/are running it on Windows and its great.   I was also hoping
> to hear that someone had true multi user access working, but I guess its
> not done yet and the move to the new database format is probably the
> first part of that effort ?

I've not tried to do any sharing or multi-user access.

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2010/6/23 Andrew Goodbody <[hidden email]>:
> On 23/06/2010 07:05, Linuxguy123 wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 08:55 +1000, Peter Shute wrote:
>>> You do know that digiKam is available for Windows? It's part of the KDE on Windows project.
>>
>> I knew about that but I don't hear about many people using it that way.
>> Does it work ?  Well ?
>
> I use it on Windows. It's good but not great - yet. Try it and see how
> you get on with it.

Current version available precompiled for windows is 1.1.0. Compiling
and installing it yourself using my recent tutorial give you the 1.3.0
which work perfectly now under windows, as under linux...

http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/525

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[Andrew Goodbody]

On 23/06/2010 09:11, Gilles Caulier wrote:

>> I use it on Windows. It's good but not great - yet. Try it and see how
>> you get on with it.
>
> Current version available precompiled for windows is 1.1.0. Compiling
> and installing it yourself using my recent tutorial give you the 1.3.0
> which work perfectly now under windows, as under linux...
>
> http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/525
>
> Gilles Caulier

Gilles,

I am enormously grateful for the work you and the others put in to give
the world this excellent program however I beg to differ about works
perfectly on Windows.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224038
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224043

While these may not be bugs in Digikam itself they do affect my use of it.

Thanks,
Andrew
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[Stefan Grosse-2]

Am 23.06.2010 00:54, schrieb Linuxguy123:

> Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows
> computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?

How about using a NAS?

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[Linuxguy123]

On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:22 +0200, Stefan Grosse wrote:
> Am 23.06.2010 00:54, schrieb Linuxguy123:
>
> > Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows
> > computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?
>
> How about using a NAS?

Good qestion.   You mean I should set up a network storage system
whereby I could run digikam on my computer and manipulate the images
with my database and she could do the same ?

Is anyone doing this ?

For some reason I thought that digikam didn't work with networked
storage.   Does it ?

Thanks !


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[Brano]

On 10-06-25 11:00 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:22 +0200, Stefan Grosse wrote:
>    
>> Am 23.06.2010 00:54, schrieb Linuxguy123:
>>
>>      
>>> Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows
>>> computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?
>>>        
>> How about using a NAS?
>>      
> Good qestion.   You mean I should set up a network storage system
> whereby I could run digikam on my computer and manipulate the images
> with my database and she could do the same ?
>
> Is anyone doing this ?
>
> For some reason I thought that digikam didn't work with networked
> storage.   Does it ?
>
> Thanks !
>
>    

We're talking about two things here

1) How to share the photo folder?
Simple, on linux you export it via SAMBA and win can mount it. This is
exactly what NAS does. No need for dedicated NAS (but you can put one in
if it fit's your bigger picture)

2) digiKam binary / DB install? Up to version 1.2 each user should have
it's own local digiKam/db install. Each user can have the same share
folder with photos mapped. For linux this is traight forward ... use
your favourite package manager to install, on windows you need to follow
steps for digiKam on windows (the KDE project).
This will give each user it's own "view" into the albums with two
completely indenpendet DBs. You can re-sync metadata between each DB by
writting the metadata to files and then re-scan by the other other DB
respectively.

On version 1.3++ you can also share DB. The DB needs to run on one
server (PC) and can be accessed by multiple users. (Not sure if DB
replication is supported yet, that would allow multiple DB instances
...good for laptops. I'm still on 1.2 so I have zero practical
experience with full MySQL implementation in digiKam ...hoping to
upgrade with suse11.3 in a month or so)

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[Martin (KDE)]

Am Freitag, 25. Juni 2010 schrieb Linuxguy123:

> On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:22 +0200, Stefan Grosse wrote:
> > Am 23.06.2010 00:54, schrieb Linuxguy123:
> > > Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows
> > > computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?
> >
> > How about using a NAS?
>
> Good qestion.   You mean I should set up a network storage system
> whereby I could run digikam on my computer and manipulate the
> images with my database and she could do the same ?
>
> Is anyone doing this ?

I did this for one or to years, but switched back to local copy of
database (this is much faster). At login I copy my DB from the server
to my local home directory and at logout I copy it back to the server.
But I have a NFS server running. I don't know if it works with
CIFS/Samba as well.

>
> For some reason I thought that digikam didn't work with networked
> storage.   Does it ?

It works, but it is not recommended. If your network is shaky, your
database will be damaged.

Martin

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[Martin (KDE)]

Am Freitag, 25. Juni 2010 schrieb Brano:

> On 10-06-25 11:00 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:22 +0200, Stefan Grosse wrote:
> >> Am 23.06.2010 00:54, schrieb Linuxguy123:
> >>> Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows
> >>> computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?
> >>
> >> How about using a NAS?
> >
> > Good qestion.   You mean I should set up a network storage system
> > whereby I could run digikam on my computer and manipulate the
> > images with my database and she could do the same ?
> >
> > Is anyone doing this ?
> >
> > For some reason I thought that digikam didn't work with networked
> > storage.   Does it ?
> >
> > Thanks !
>
> We're talking about two things here
>
> 1) How to share the photo folder?
> Simple, on linux you export it via SAMBA and win can mount it. This
> is exactly what NAS does. No need for dedicated NAS (but you can
> put one in if it fit's your bigger picture)
>
> 2) digiKam binary / DB install? Up to version 1.2 each user should
> have it's own local digiKam/db install. Each user can have the
> same share folder with photos mapped. For linux this is traight
> forward ... use your favourite package manager to install, on
> windows you need to follow steps for digiKam on windows (the KDE
> project).
> This will give each user it's own "view" into the albums with two
> completely indenpendet DBs. You can re-sync metadata between each
> DB by writting the metadata to files and then re-scan by the other
> other DB respectively.

But be aware that you have to rescan the whole photo collection to get
changes in exif data of other users. A simple update will not work.
This was discussed recently on this list. May be that digikam 1.4 will
be able to handle this situation much better.

>
> On version 1.3++ you can also share DB. The DB needs to run on one
> server (PC) and can be accessed by multiple users. (Not sure if DB
> replication is supported yet, that would allow multiple DB
> instances ...good for laptops. I'm still on 1.2 so I have zero
> practical experience with full MySQL implementation in digiKam
> ...hoping to upgrade with suse11.3 in a month or so)

The downside is, that you share your whole database. If you have more
than one album (i.e. local and remote) this will not work as expected.
Afaik you can not share parts of your database.

Martin

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[Rei Shinozuka]

On 06/25/2010 11:41 AM, Martin (KDE) wrote:

> Am Freitag, 25. Juni 2010 schrieb Linuxguy123:
>    
>> On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:22 +0200, Stefan Grosse wrote:
>>      
>>> Am 23.06.2010 00:54, schrieb Linuxguy123:
>>>        
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas for accessing images from a Windows
>>>> computer ?  Ie, one NOT running Linux ?
>>>>          
>>> How about using a NAS?
>>>        
>> Good qestion.   You mean I should set up a network storage system
>> whereby I could run digikam on my computer and manipulate the
>> images with my database and she could do the same ?
>>
>> Is anyone doing this ?
>>      
> I did this for one or to years, but switched back to local copy of
> database (this is much faster). At login I copy my DB from the server
> to my local home directory and at logout I copy it back to the server.
> But I have a NFS server running. I don't know if it works with
> CIFS/Samba as well.
>
>    
>> For some reason I thought that digikam didn't work with networked
>> storage.   Does it ?
>>      
> It works, but it is not recommended. If your network is shaky, your
> database will be damaged.
>
> Martin

digikam 1.2 tells one that "remote file system, such as NFS cannot be
used" for database file path (I guess locking issues).  So the database
I keep local.

I have my albums on NFS (though mounted as a "Local Collection"). My PCs
can get to the share via samba. I use a $100 Dlink DNS-321 with a pair
of 2 TB drives on RAID-1.  The Dlink serves NFS and SMB.  its not the
fastest thing around for 35MB raw files, even on gigabit ethernet, but
it's worked reliably for me for a couple of years.  the NAS gives you
peace of mind when you upgrade your system from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 to
know your storage is agnostic.

-rei

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