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Email images launches Kmail, expecting Thunderbird.

Bugzilla from fureys@vif.com
Using Digikam 0.9.2-final with KDE 3.5.8.

I select an image and use the Email Images option which then launches Kmail.

I am using Thunderbird on Ubuntu 7.10 and was expecting Tbird to launch.

I checked kcontrol to change the mail client but there is nothing there that I
can see to change the default mail client.  Ubuntu has Tbird set as the default
mail client under preferred apps.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Cheers in advance..

Hubert


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Re: Email images launches Kmail, expecting Thunderbird.

Gerhard Kulzer-3
Am Tuesday 29 January 2008 schrieb Hubert Furey:

> Using Digikam 0.9.2-final with KDE 3.5.8.
>
> I select an image and use the Email Images option which then launches
> Kmail.
>
> I am using Thunderbird on Ubuntu 7.10 and was expecting Tbird to launch.
>
> I checked kcontrol to change the mail client but there is nothing there
> that I can see to change the default mail client.  Ubuntu has Tbird set as
> the default mail client under preferred apps.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
kcontrol->KDE Components->Default applications->Kmail

Gerhard


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> Hubert
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Re: Email images launches Kmail, expecting Thunderbird.

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Thanks for the response, however this solution did not work for me.  
I am using Ubuntu and the kcontrol does not have an option for default
applications.  

There is no where to disable Kmail as default mail agent.

Within the Email Images dialog (in digikam) I found under the Mail option I
found the ability to specify the mail agent and the binary path.  

Setting this to Thunderbird and it works correctly now.

However the option for Default should launch Thunderbird anyway?

Would this be bug?

Hubert

PS

Digikam is really great.  Good job and congrats to all involved for such a good
product....

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Re: Email images launches Kmail, expecting Thunderbird.

Markus Spring
Hubert

attached are screenshots from Ubuntu 7.10, control center. This is the place
where I choose thunderbird as default mail application.

Try this and see if it works.

Best regards - Markus


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Re: Email images launches Kmail, expecting Thunderbird.

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Dnia Tuesday 29 of January 2008, Hubert Furey napisał:

> Thanks for the response, however this solution did not work for me.
> I am using Ubuntu and the kcontrol does not have an option for default
> applications.
>
> There is no where to disable Kmail as default mail agent.
>
> Within the Email Images dialog (in digikam) I found under the Mail
> option I found the ability to specify the mail agent and the binary
> path.
>
> Setting this to Thunderbird and it works correctly now.
>
> However the option for Default should launch Thunderbird anyway?
>
> Would this be bug?

No. Default means default of KDE MIME system and this is always KMail.
If anything this is distro bug.

m.

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Re: Email images launches Kmail, expecting Thunderbird.

Mike Meiser
I noticed a similar thing with digikam expecting konqueror instead of firefox.

Since it was just a one time thing I just installed konqueror, but
obviously... this doesn't work so well for email.

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog

2008/1/29 Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:

> Dnia Tuesday 29 of January 2008, Hubert Furey napisał:
> > Thanks for the response, however this solution did not work for me.
> > I am using Ubuntu and the kcontrol does not have an option for default
> > applications.
> >
> > There is no where to disable Kmail as default mail agent.
> >
> > Within the Email Images dialog (in digikam) I found under the Mail
> > option I found the ability to specify the mail agent and the binary
> > path.
> >
> > Setting this to Thunderbird and it works correctly now.
> >
> > However the option for Default should launch Thunderbird anyway?
> >
> > Would this be bug?
>
> No. Default means default of KDE MIME system and this is always KMail.
> If anything this is distro bug.
>
>
> m.
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Re: Email images launches Kmail, expecting Thunderbird.

Gerhard Kulzer-3
Am Wednesday 30 January 2008 schrieb Mike Meiser:

> I noticed a similar thing with digikam expecting konqueror instead of
> firefox.
>
> Since it was just a one time thing I just installed konqueror, but
> obviously... this doesn't work so well for email.
>
> -Mike
> mmeiser.com/blog
>
> 2008/1/29 Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:
> > Dnia Tuesday 29 of January 2008, Hubert Furey napisał:
> > > Thanks for the response, however this solution did not work for me.
> > > I am using Ubuntu and the kcontrol does not have an option for default
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > There is no where to disable Kmail as default mail agent.
> > >
> > > Within the Email Images dialog (in digikam) I found under the Mail
> > > option I found the ability to specify the mail agent and the binary
> > > path.
> > >
> > > Setting this to Thunderbird and it works correctly now.
> > >
> > > However the option for Default should launch Thunderbird anyway?
> > >
> > > Would this be bug?
> >
> > No. Default means default of KDE MIME system and this is always KMail.
> > If anything this is distro bug.
> >
I updated the FAQ on www.digikam.org to relfect this discussion here.

Gerhard

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Re: Email images launches Kmail, expecting Thunderbird.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Mike Meiser wrote:

> I noticed a similar thing with digikam expecting konqueror instead of firefox.
>
> Since it was just a one time thing I just installed konqueror, but
> obviously... this doesn't work so well for email.

The important thing is, in my opinion, that digikam should not
force the user to use a specific web-browser or email programm.

In the FAQ
  http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/146
this is discussed.

I think it would make sense to add to this FAQ:
"""
For the "Email images" tool the mail agent can
be specified in the dialogue.
Note that the "default" mailer agent is the
one defined in the KDE control center (kcontrol).
"""

BTW: Is the "Image/Email images" the only place where
an email programm is invoked?

Concerning ubuntu: why are the kcontrol menus not available?
Is there any back-ground information?

So to summarize: both web-browser and e-mail program
can be specified to be different from konquerer/kmail
(apart from ubuntu, it seems). Correct?

Best, Arnd


> mmeiser.com/blog
>
> 2008/1/29 Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:
> > Dnia Tuesday 29 of January 2008, Hubert Furey napisał:
> > > Thanks for the response, however this solution did not work for me.
> > > I am using Ubuntu and the kcontrol does not have an option for default
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > There is no where to disable Kmail as default mail agent.
> > >
> > > Within the Email Images dialog (in digikam) I found under the Mail
> > > option I found the ability to specify the mail agent and the binary
> > > path.
> > >
> > > Setting this to Thunderbird and it works correctly now.
> > >
> > > However the option for Default should launch Thunderbird anyway?
> > >
> > > Would this be bug?
> >
> > No. Default means default of KDE MIME system and this is always KMail.
> > If anything this is distro bug.
> >
> >
> > m.
> >
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Gerhard Kulzer-3
Am Wednesday 30 January 2008 schrieb Arnd Baecker:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Mike Meiser wrote:
> > I noticed a similar thing with digikam expecting konqueror instead of
> > firefox.
> >
> > Since it was just a one time thing I just installed konqueror, but
> > obviously... this doesn't work so well for email.
>
> The important thing is, in my opinion, that digikam should not
> force the user to use a specific web-browser or email programm.
>
> In the FAQ
>   http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/146
> this is discussed.
>
> I think it would make sense to add to this FAQ:
> """
> For the "Email images" tool the mail agent can
> be specified in the dialogue.
> Note that the "default" mailer agent is the
> one defined in the KDE control center (kcontrol).
> """
>
done. Remark: we're talking about kipi-plugins, not about digiKam here.

> BTW: Is the "Image/Email images" the only place where
> an email programm is invoked?
To my knowledge, yes.

>
> Concerning ubuntu: why are the kcontrol menus not available?
> Is there any back-ground information?
cause ubuntu has not KDE installed.
even Kubuntu will/has (depending on flavor) abandoned kcontrol and replaced it
by systemsettings.
>
> So to summarize: both web-browser and e-mail program
> can be specified to be different from konquerer/kmail
> (apart from ubuntu, it seems). Correct?
Well for Ubuntu I rely on Mikolaj

Gerhard

>
> Best, Arnd
>
> > mmeiser.com/blog
> >
> > 2008/1/29 Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:
> > > Dnia Tuesday 29 of January 2008, Hubert Furey napisał:
> > > > Thanks for the response, however this solution did not work for me.
> > > > I am using Ubuntu and the kcontrol does not have an option for
> > > > default applications.
> > > >
> > > > There is no where to disable Kmail as default mail agent.
> > > >
> > > > Within the Email Images dialog (in digikam) I found under the Mail
> > > > option I found the ability to specify the mail agent and the binary
> > > > path.
> > > >
> > > > Setting this to Thunderbird and it works correctly now.
> > > >
> > > > However the option for Default should launch Thunderbird anyway?
> > > >
> > > > Would this be bug?
> > >
> > > No. Default means default of KDE MIME system and this is always KMail.
> > > If anything this is distro bug.
> > >
> > >
> > > m.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
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Dnia Wednesday 30 of January 2008, Arnd Baecker napisał:
> So to summarize: both web-browser and e-mail program
> can be specified to be different from konquerer/kmail
> (apart from ubuntu, it seems). Correct?

Yes, it can be specified. But I don't think digiKam should make extra
effort and overcome default KDE settings on Linux - this is distribution
job.

Situation maybe slightly different on Windows/Mac. IMO digiKam should
rely on kdelibs to solve that - still no change on digiKam part.

m.

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Mike Meiser
This is similar to issues during the browser wars with how different
applications are coded to work with different browsers.

Ultimately the solution was to make the default browser a universal
system setting and get it out of the application.

Surely there must be some equivelent in ubuntu / linux / kde?

-Mike

2008/1/30 Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:

> Dnia Wednesday 30 of January 2008, Arnd Baecker napisał:
> > So to summarize: both web-browser and e-mail program
> > can be specified to be different from konquerer/kmail
> > (apart from ubuntu, it seems). Correct?
>
> Yes, it can be specified. But I don't think digiKam should make extra
> effort and overcome default KDE settings on Linux - this is distribution
> job.
>
> Situation maybe slightly different on Windows/Mac. IMO digiKam should
> rely on kdelibs to solve that - still no change on digiKam part.
>
>
> m.
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