E-Mail Images and Thunderbird

[Matthew T. Gibbs]

I've searched the list (and outstanding bugs) but have not found anything
helpful...

I have Digikam 0.9.0 and Kipi 0.1.4 (from Packman) with KDE 3.5.5 on
OpenSuSE 10.2.  I have Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (20060911).

When I select a few images in Digikam and then go to "Email Images" no
images are attached to the e-mail.  Thunderbird is the default client, and
Digikam is set to use the default e-mail client.  If Thunderbird is not
open, it will start it and open a compose window with no attachments.  If
Thunderbird is open, it apparently opens it again and then opens a compose
window.  I ran Digikam in Konsole and didn't get any output.  I'm not sure
where to go next; hopefully someone on the list can give me some pointers.  

I'd like to migrate my stepdad to KDE on GNU/Linux from another, more
popular windowing system, but he's not very technical and so things have to
more or less work like they are supposed to (like the rest of
Digikam/KDE ;) ).  And if any Digikam devs read this...many thanks for a
great app!

Thank you for any help that you may be able to offer.

Matt

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[Oliver Dörr]

Hmmm,

i'm running it similar using SuSE 10.0. But i have configured a bit
different. I'm not using the default mail-program, i'm explicitly using
thunderbird, and i have the thunderbird executable specified (on my
system /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird).

This works on my system
Oliver

Matthew T. Gibbs wrote:

> I've searched the list (and outstanding bugs) but have not found anything
> helpful...
>
> I have Digikam 0.9.0 and Kipi 0.1.4 (from Packman) with KDE 3.5.5 on
> OpenSuSE 10.2.  I have Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (20060911).
>
> When I select a few images in Digikam and then go to "Email Images" no
> images are attached to the e-mail.  Thunderbird is the default client, and
> Digikam is set to use the default e-mail client.  If Thunderbird is not
> open, it will start it and open a compose window with no attachments.  If
> Thunderbird is open, it apparently opens it again and then opens a compose
> window.  I ran Digikam in Konsole and didn't get any output.  I'm not sure
> where to go next; hopefully someone on the list can give me some pointers.  
>
> I'd like to migrate my stepdad to KDE on GNU/Linux from another, more
> popular windowing system, but he's not very technical and so things have to
> more or less work like they are supposed to (like the rest of
> Digikam/KDE ;) ).  And if any Digikam devs read this...many thanks for a
> great app!
>
> Thank you for any help that you may be able to offer.
>
> Matt
>
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[Matthew T. Gibbs]

On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:47, Oliver Dörr wrote:
> Hmmm,
>
> i'm running it similar using SuSE 10.0. But i have configured a bit
> different. I'm not using the default mail-program, i'm explicitly using
> thunderbird, and i have the thunderbird executable specified (on my
> system /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird).
>
> This works on my system
> Oliver

I just tried setting it to use Thunderbird explicitly (mine's
in /usr/bin/thunderbird) and it now works.  So it must send a different
command when you tell it to use Thunderbird instead of the default.  So I
suppose to actually fix it Digikam would have to recognize that Thunderbird
is the default and send the command that it sends when you explicitly tell
it to use Thunderbird.

Many thanks!

Matt

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[Oliver Dörr]

Matthew T. Gibbs wrote:

On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:47, Oliver Dörr wrote:
  

Hmmm,

i'm running it similar using SuSE 10.0. But i have configured a bit
different. I'm not using the default mail-program, i'm explicitly using
thunderbird, and i have the thunderbird executable specified (on my
system /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird).

This works on my system
Oliver
    

I just tried setting it to use Thunderbird explicitly (mine's
in /usr/bin/thunderbird) and it now works.  So it must send a different
command when you tell it to use Thunderbird instead of the default.  So I
suppose to actually fix it Digikam would have to recognize that Thunderbird
is the default and send the command that it sends when you explicitly tell
it to use Thunderbird.
  

I could tell you the reason for that behaviour. Most E-Mail applications except the mail to command as an option for starting it. They are easy to implement. With mozilla based applications (like Thunderbird) this is different, you have to start an manager and telling him what to do. So it's two completely different thins between talking to a running instance, or starting a new instance and tell her what to do.

That's the reason why the sendimages plugin implementation works different for thunderbird and mozilla-mail. And so the default will not work ;-) I don't know the implementation of default, but I'm pretty sure, that it is more or less calling the standard KDE API  to do the job. And i'm quite sure that mozilla base mail application does not full fill their specifications. I think that the needed logic has tio be implemented in the mozilla projects instead. Best would, if there is a standard in freedesktop.org, which they could implement (this could be implemented for Gnome, KDE and whatever), but this fas beyond my knowledge

Oliver

Merry x-mas
Oliver

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[Matthew T. Gibbs]

On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:42, Oliver Dörr wrote:

> Matthew T. Gibbs wrote:
> I could tell you the reason for that behaviour. Most E-Mail applications
> except the mail to command as an option for starting it. They are easy
> to implement. With mozilla based applications (like Thunderbird) this is
> different, you have to start an manager and telling him what to do. So
> it's two completely different thins between talking to a running
> instance, or starting a new instance and tell her what to do.
>
> That's the reason why the sendimages plugin implementation works
> different for thunderbird and mozilla-mail. And so the default will not
> work ;-) I don't know the implementation of default, but I'm pretty
> sure, that it is more or less calling the standard KDE API  to do the
> job. And i'm quite sure that mozilla base mail application does not full
> fill their specifications. I think that the needed logic has tio be
> implemented in the mozilla projects instead. Best would, if there is a
> standard in freedesktop.org, which they could implement (this could be
> implemented for Gnome, KDE and whatever), but this fas beyond my knowledge
>
> Oliver
>
> Merry x-mas
> Oliver

That makes sense; thank you for the explanation.  It sounds like the Mozilla
way is a little convoluted, but maybe the process in general is more
complicated than I think.  I'd agree that a standard call would be the way
to go.

Merry Christmas to you too!

Matt

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