DocumentName tag and autorotate when importing

[Jonas Norlander]

Hello!

I just saw one thing with the metadata added when importing and has
the auto rotate option activated. If the picture is rotated during
import the metadata tags DocumentName, ImageWidth and ImageLength is
added. For the pictures not rotated this tags is not added. Can
someone else verify this?

For me the DocumentName tag is really handy is it contains the
original filename before renamed during import and i would like to see
it added for all files imported.

/ Jonas
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:

> Hello!
>
> I just saw one thing with the metadata added when importing and has
> the auto rotate option activated. If the picture is rotated during
> import the metadata tags DocumentName, ImageWidth and ImageLength is
> added. For the pictures not rotated this tags is not added. Can
> someone else verify this?
>
> For me the DocumentName tag is really handy is it contains the
> original filename before renamed during import and i would like to see
> it added for all files imported.

well, if file are not touched during import, metadata still as well...

When autorotating is performed, metadata need to be adjusted (as image
size). This is why DocumentName is added.

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[Jonas Norlander]

2010/4/7 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:

> 2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:
>> Hello!
>>
>> I just saw one thing with the metadata added when importing and has
>> the auto rotate option activated. If the picture is rotated during
>> import the metadata tags DocumentName, ImageWidth and ImageLength is
>> added. For the pictures not rotated this tags is not added. Can
>> someone else verify this?
>>
>> For me the DocumentName tag is really handy is it contains the
>> original filename before renamed during import and i would like to see
>> it added for all files imported.
>
> well, if file are not touched during import, metadata still as well...
>
> When autorotating is performed, metadata need to be adjusted (as image
> size). This is why DocumentName is added.
>

Ok!

But in my case the metadata is touched as i have a metadata template
added when importing, shouldn't the DocumentName tag be added in that
case?
Anyhow as I wrote the DocumentName tag could be useful even if the
image is not rotated or changed and I think it should be added for all
pictures when importing/renaming or do I missunderstand the purpose of
the tag?

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:

> 2010/4/7 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
>> 2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I just saw one thing with the metadata added when importing and has
>>> the auto rotate option activated. If the picture is rotated during
>>> import the metadata tags DocumentName, ImageWidth and ImageLength is
>>> added. For the pictures not rotated this tags is not added. Can
>>> someone else verify this?
>>>
>>> For me the DocumentName tag is really handy is it contains the
>>> original filename before renamed during import and i would like to see
>>> it added for all files imported.
>>
>> well, if file are not touched during import, metadata still as well...
>>
>> When autorotating is performed, metadata need to be adjusted (as image
>> size). This is why DocumentName is added.
>>
>
> Ok!
>
> But in my case the metadata is touched as i have a metadata template
> added when importing, shouldn't the DocumentName tag be added in that
> case?

yes, it must.

> Anyhow as I wrote the DocumentName tag could be useful even if the
> image is not rotated or changed and I think it should be added for all
> pictures when importing/renaming or do I missunderstand the purpose of
> the tag?

Look DocumentName documentation there :

http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/tifftags/documentname.html

Typically, it contain the original filename, after a post processing.
Ex : RAW is demosaiced and saved to PNG. DocumentName is set to
original Raw file name.

This can be useful to set this tag to original file name when image
file is renamed (in batch mode for ex.)

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[Jonas Norlander]

2010/4/7 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:

> 2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:
>> 2010/4/7 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
>>> 2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I just saw one thing with the metadata added when importing and has
>>>> the auto rotate option activated. If the picture is rotated during
>>>> import the metadata tags DocumentName, ImageWidth and ImageLength is
>>>> added. For the pictures not rotated this tags is not added. Can
>>>> someone else verify this?
>>>>
>>>> For me the DocumentName tag is really handy is it contains the
>>>> original filename before renamed during import and i would like to see
>>>> it added for all files imported.
>>>
>>> well, if file are not touched during import, metadata still as well...
>>>
>>> When autorotating is performed, metadata need to be adjusted (as image
>>> size). This is why DocumentName is added.
>>>
>>
>> Ok!
>>
>> But in my case the metadata is touched as i have a metadata template
>> added when importing, shouldn't the DocumentName tag be added in that
>> case?
>
> yes, it must.

Should i file a bug for this?

>> Anyhow as I wrote the DocumentName tag could be useful even if the
>> image is not rotated or changed and I think it should be added for all
>> pictures when importing/renaming or do I missunderstand the purpose of
>> the tag?
>
> Look DocumentName documentation there :
>
> http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/tifftags/documentname.html
>
> Typically, it contain the original filename, after a post processing.
> Ex : RAW is demosaiced and saved to PNG. DocumentName is set to
> original Raw file name.
>
> This can be useful to set this tag to original file name when image
> file is renamed (in batch mode for ex.)

Just what i think to.

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:

> 2010/4/7 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
>> 2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:
>>> 2010/4/7 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
>>>> 2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> I just saw one thing with the metadata added when importing and has
>>>>> the auto rotate option activated. If the picture is rotated during
>>>>> import the metadata tags DocumentName, ImageWidth and ImageLength is
>>>>> added. For the pictures not rotated this tags is not added. Can
>>>>> someone else verify this?
>>>>>
>>>>> For me the DocumentName tag is really handy is it contains the
>>>>> original filename before renamed during import and i would like to see
>>>>> it added for all files imported.
>>>>
>>>> well, if file are not touched during import, metadata still as well...
>>>>
>>>> When autorotating is performed, metadata need to be adjusted (as image
>>>> size). This is why DocumentName is added.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok!
>>>
>>> But in my case the metadata is touched as i have a metadata template
>>> added when importing, shouldn't the DocumentName tag be added in that
>>> case?
>>
>> yes, it must.
>
> Should i file a bug for this?

yes, please

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[Jonas Norlander]

2010/4/7 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
> 2010/4/7 Jonas Norlander <[hidden email]>:
>> Should i file a bug for this?
>
> yes, please

Reported as https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233612

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