Digital Asset Management (DAM) question: final formats, meta data and so on

[Pento-2]

Hi!

Could you please share your DAM flow in details?
My one is:
1. Import photographs from camera to ~/photos/YEAR/EVENT/raw
2. Convert cr2 raw files to dng
3. Remove all really bad pics and flag (red, yellow and gree) all other
4. Batch convert dng files with some corrections (WB/sharp/contrast) in 16bit
mode to jpg **without compression**
5. Make manual editing for some of them  
6. Move jpg files to dir one level above
7. Remove dng files with red flag
8. Comment, star, tag and so on to **jpegs**
9. Export some images to public website (remove all metada, resize to 1024x,
add watermark, add tag "Public" to the origin)
10. Do backup (rsync) of ~/photos every week to external drive

So I store jpg files with metadata in it and dng ones  for **some of them**  in
separate directory
As you can see I don't use versions feature.  What is limitations of such DAM
flow?

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2014-09-21 13:54 GMT+02:00 Pento <[hidden email]>:

> Hi!
>
> Could you please share your DAM flow in details?
> My one is:
> 1. Import photographs from camera to ~/photos/YEAR/EVENT/raw
> 2. Convert cr2 raw files to dng
> 3. Remove all really bad pics and flag (red, yellow and gree) all other
> 4. Batch convert dng files with some corrections (WB/sharp/contrast) in 16bit
> mode to jpg **without compression**
> 5. Make manual editing for some of them
> 6. Move jpg files to dir one level above
> 7. Remove dng files with red flag
> 8. Comment, star, tag and so on to **jpegs**
> 9. Export some images to public website (remove all metada, resize to 1024x,
> add watermark, add tag "Public" to the origin)
> 10. Do backup (rsync) of ~/photos every week to external drive
>
> So I store jpg files with metadata in it and dng ones  for **some of them**  in
> separate directory
> As you can see I don't use versions feature.  What is limitations of such DAM
> flow?

There is a benefit to use DNG instead CR2 ?

In more generic approach, there is a benefit to use RAW instead JPEG ?
For me now, excepted with some shots conditions. JPEG is always enough
in 90%.

I plan to introduce 16 bits/color/pixels auto-conversion of JPEG to
reduce editing color side-effect in editor (optional of course).

Do not start troll about RAW versus JPEG. I know very well all
advantages and dis-avantages of both formats. I would just to have
feedback about time processing here in workflow.

Gilles Caulier
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[Photonoxx]

Le Sun, 21 Sep 2014 14:01:08 +0200, Gilles Caulier  
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>
> In more generic approach, there is a benefit to use RAW instead JPEG ?
> For me now, excepted with some shots conditions. JPEG is always enough
> in 90%.

I shoot a lot in very contrasted scene, so for me RAW is very valuable. In  
addition, fine details are better with RAW than JPEG.

After that, depending what you need, Jpeg could be sufficient...

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2014-09-21 14:43 GMT+02:00 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:

> Le Sun, 21 Sep 2014 14:01:08 +0200, Gilles Caulier
> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>
>>
>> In more generic approach, there is a benefit to use RAW instead JPEG ?
>> For me now, excepted with some shots conditions. JPEG is always enough
>> in 90%.
>
>
> I shoot a lot in very contrasted scene, so for me RAW is very valuable. In
> addition, fine details are better with RAW than JPEG.
>
> After that, depending what you need, Jpeg could be sufficient...

Well shooting pets in 12 img/s with Sony A77 can be done only in JPEG,
and work very well.

I use Light Table to sort bad and good quality images.

I usually always expand low light with Local Contrast tool. JPEG is
converted to 16 bits previously. This always give very good results.

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[Martin (KDE)]

Am 21.09.2014 um 14:01 schrieb Gilles Caulier:

> 2014-09-21 13:54 GMT+02:00 Pento <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Could you please share your DAM flow in details?
>> My one is:
>> 1. Import photographs from camera to ~/photos/YEAR/EVENT/raw
>> 2. Convert cr2 raw files to dng
>> 3. Remove all really bad pics and flag (red, yellow and gree) all other
>> 4. Batch convert dng files with some corrections (WB/sharp/contrast) in 16bit
>> mode to jpg **without compression**
>> 5. Make manual editing for some of them
>> 6. Move jpg files to dir one level above
>> 7. Remove dng files with red flag
>> 8. Comment, star, tag and so on to **jpegs**
>> 9. Export some images to public website (remove all metada, resize to 1024x,
>> add watermark, add tag "Public" to the origin)
>> 10. Do backup (rsync) of ~/photos every week to external drive
>>
>> So I store jpg files with metadata in it and dng ones  for **some of them**  in
>> separate directory
>> As you can see I don't use versions feature.  What is limitations of such DAM
>> flow?
>
> There is a benefit to use DNG instead CR2 ?
>
> In more generic approach, there is a benefit to use RAW instead JPEG ?
> For me now, excepted with some shots conditions. JPEG is always enough
> in 90%.

This is no simple yes or no question. If I shot a wedding or simmilar
fest I always use RAW (fix white balance, colour correction and use the
headroom of raw data). Same ist true for most landscape scenes. If I
have to shoot sport events I prefere plain jpeg (way less
postprocessing). I use RAW in about 90% an plain jpeg in 10%. I stopped
using both at a time.

There is a reason that user can switch between raw and jpeg. Same ist
true for full automatic mode: better you have an average full automatic
photo than none at all.

Regards
Martin

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[Pento-2]

Gilles,

> There is a benefit to use DNG instead CR2 ?
I use (more correct started sometime ago) DNG because of its openness (also
according to the manual of Digikam).
 
> In more generic approach, there is a benefit to use RAW instead JPEG ?
I think you know all possible answers on the question RAW vs JPEG.
As I already said I store RAW files only for some photos (e.g. to reprocess
them in the future and/or as  proof of authorship). End format is JPEG.

So, you don't store RAW origins and your photo archive consists of only JPEGs,
do you?
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2014-09-21 20:20 GMT+02:00 Pento <[hidden email]>:

> Gilles,
>
>> There is a benefit to use DNG instead CR2 ?
> I use (more correct started sometime ago) DNG because of its openness (also
> according to the manual of Digikam).
>
>> In more generic approach, there is a benefit to use RAW instead JPEG ?
> I think you know all possible answers on the question RAW vs JPEG.
> As I already said I store RAW files only for some photos (e.g. to reprocess
> them in the future and/or as  proof of authorship). End format is JPEG.
>
> So, you don't store RAW origins and your photo archive consists of only JPEGs,
> do you?

My workflow : JPEG (high speed shooting) -> selection -> convert 16
bits -> editing -> save as PNG or TIFF in 16 bits.

I use also versioning, but not all the time.

The choice of JPEG is simple : i won't to replay all camera post
processing myself. My camera is enough expensive to estimate the
firmware enough powerful to process image properly.

My dream is to see JPEG like format using 12/14/16 bits color depth
instead 8 bits.

To resume : my free time is very precious, and i won't to waste time
with post processing on computer.

Gilles Caulier


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Le 21/09/2014 21:01, Gilles Caulier a écrit :

> To resume : my free time is very precious, and i won't to waste time
> with post processing on computer.

same as you.

but the problem is probably most a question of number.

I have to shoot many images and can't afford to post edit them (apart basics
like resize).

I know people that shoot only a handfull of images and spend many time
refining them, of course in raw. It was the same with roll film...

no problem, simply not my use

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[Anders Kamf]

This is my workflow.

 -I work mainly with private photos, e.g. from family events and so on. I handle photos from several cameras and from smart phones together. I put a timestamp (from metadata) in the filename so they are displayed in chronological order, even when viewed in a file browser.
 -Since I no longer have time for post processing, I use only JPEG - even for photos from my DSLR cameras.
 -I want the information to travel with the picture, i.e. I store all as metadata in the files.
 -I use rating to make a selection of pictures from each event, rather than saying "rating 5 is a really good picture".


1. Transfer photos from cameras, together with rename and setting rating to 2, with a bash script to ~/photos/edit/YYYY/YYMMDD_EVENT, naming: YYYYMMDD-HHMM_CAMERAID_ORGFILENAME
2. Manual backup of ~/photos/edit/ to external disc using rsync
3. Sort pictures using the rating and rating filter - viewing 2 stars and above:
   a) Bad pictures gets rating 1 (I delete them all later on)
   b) Good pictures, but not duplicates, gets rating 3
   c) Change filter to 3 stars and above. If there are too many of rating 3, fine tune by set the best ones to rating 4. Continue to rating 5 if needed.
4. Tag the finest selection with tag Selection-1, the next finest with Selection-2 and so on. This way the finest selection from an event is always tagged Selection-1, no matter if the finest rating has reached 3, 4 or 5 stars.
5. Occasionally, do some manual editing like crop
6. Apply additional tags
7. Move from edit directory to ~photos/album/YYYY/, which has automated backup with rsnapshot

I put a small JPEG-file in each directory (with the initial script) and use it to keep track of my workflow progress for that directory and for information/notes that goes for the whole directory. This is my way to store metadata for a folder.

Regards
Anders

2014-09-21 21:09 GMT+02:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 21/09/2014 21:01, Gilles Caulier a écrit :

To resume : my free time is very precious, and i won't to waste time
with post processing on computer.

same as you.

but the problem is probably most a question of number.

I have to shoot many images and can't afford to post edit them (apart basics like resize).

I know people that shoot only a handfull of images and spend many time refining them, of course in raw. It was the same with roll film...

no problem, simply not my use

jdd

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On 2014-09-23 11:25, Anders Kamf wrote:
> 1. Transfer photos from cameras, together with rename and
> setting rating to 2, with a bash script to
> ~/photos/edit/YYYY/YYMMDD_EVENT,
> naming: YYYYMMDD-HHMM_CAMERAID_ORGFILENAME

Anders,
may you please post that script? I do have similar ones already, but the
"set rating" part interests me.

Thanks,
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[Anders Kamf]

Marco,
I use exiftool to both read and write metadata. The part that sets rating looks like this:
$EXIFTOOL -m -fast -P -overwrite_original_in_place -Rating=$RATING  $TMP | grep -v '1 image files updated'

Where
$EXIFTOOL is the path to exiftool
$RATING is the rating (usually 2)
$TMP is the JPEG file

The script itself has a lot of homemade characteristics, it has evolved over the years and the programming is really not very nice :) I'll be happy to send it to you tough, if the above example doesn't cover your needs. Please let me know.

Regards
Anders

2014-09-23 12:35 GMT+02:00 M. Fioretti <[hidden email]>:

On 2014-09-23 11:25, Anders Kamf wrote:

1. Transfer photos from cameras, together with rename and
setting rating to 2, with a bash script to
~/photos/edit/YYYY/YYMMDD_EVENT,
naming: YYYYMMDD-HHMM_CAMERAID_ORGFILENAME

Anders,
may you please post that script? I do have similar ones already, but the "set rating" part interests me.

Thanks,
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[Jan Wolter]

Hello,

I use the light-table to select the best shots from a particular series of pictures and delete the others. Afterwards, I tag all photos and rate the best shots. To the really best photos I apply some improving editing operations.

With my old camera, I shot jpeg pictures only. With my new camera I shot in jpeg+raw mode and I learned a lot about processing raw with digikam. In some situations I got more satisfactory results from manual raw processing. But this should be not the point writing about here. Instead I would like to ask all of you shooting also jpeg+raw, how do you manage the two file types in digikam.

Do you store jpeg and raw files in the same album or do you have sub-albums for the raw files, for example?
I have all files (of a particular "project" or holiday) in one album and use a filter to switch between jpeg and raw files.

Do you tag jpeg as well as raw files? Or do you tag only the jpeg files? But when you derive a new jpeg from a raw file, you have to copy the tags from the original jpeg (which the camera processed) to the new jpeg. (By the way: provides digikam a function to copy all tags from one image to another?) Up to now, I don't have a good strategy, how to handle this aspect.

It would be nice to hear some thoughts and strategies how you handle jpeg+raw files.

Bests,
Jan

On 23.09.2014 11:25, Anders Kamf wrote:

This is my workflow.

 -I work mainly with private photos, e.g. from family events and so on. I handle photos from several cameras and from smart phones together. I put a timestamp (from metadata) in the filename so they are displayed in chronological order, even when viewed in a file browser.
 -Since I no longer have time for post processing, I use only JPEG - even for photos from my DSLR cameras.
 -I want the information to travel with the picture, i.e. I store all as metadata in the files.
 -I use rating to make a selection of pictures from each event, rather than saying "rating 5 is a really good picture".


1. Transfer photos from cameras, together with rename and setting rating to 2, with a bash script to ~/photos/edit/YYYY/YYMMDD_EVENT, naming: YYYYMMDD-HHMM_CAMERAID_ORGFILENAME
2. Manual backup of ~/photos/edit/ to external disc using rsync
3. Sort pictures using the rating and rating filter - viewing 2 stars and above:
   a) Bad pictures gets rating 1 (I delete them all later on)
   b) Good pictures, but not duplicates, gets rating 3
   c) Change filter to 3 stars and above. If there are too many of rating 3, fine tune by set the best ones to rating 4. Continue to rating 5 if needed.
4. Tag the finest selection with tag Selection-1, the next finest with Selection-2 and so on. This way the finest selection from an event is always tagged Selection-1, no matter if the finest rating has reached 3, 4 or 5 stars.
5. Occasionally, do some manual editing like crop
6. Apply additional tags
7. Move from edit directory to ~photos/album/YYYY/, which has automated backup with rsnapshot

I put a small JPEG-file in each directory (with the initial script) and use it to keep track of my workflow progress for that directory and for information/notes that goes for the whole directory. This is my way to store metadata for a folder.

Regards
Anders

2014-09-21 21:09 GMT+02:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 21/09/2014 21:01, Gilles Caulier a écrit :

To resume : my free time is very precious, and i won't to waste time
with post processing on computer.

same as you.

but the problem is probably most a question of number.

I have to shoot many images and can't afford to post edit them (apart basics like resize).

I know people that shoot only a handfull of images and spend many time refining them, of course in raw. It was the same with roll film...

no problem, simply not my use

jdd

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Hah!

My workflow:

1. Shoot lots pictures until I run out of space on the camera's storage.

2. Utter several expletives because (1) happened in the middle of an event I wish to capture.

3. Use digikam to pull all photos from camera into my ~/photos/sort directory with rename along the lines of jdr_[date]_[file]{range:5,}.

Note that I have no steps after (3). My sort directory has become rather large. Sigh. I do at least occasionally rsync my sort directory.

JDR

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Pento <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi!

Could you please share your DAM flow in details?
My one is:
1. Import photographs from camera to ~/photos/YEAR/EVENT/raw
2. Convert cr2 raw files to dng
3. Remove all really bad pics and flag (red, yellow and gree) all other
4. Batch convert dng files with some corrections (WB/sharp/contrast) in 16bit
mode to jpg **without compression**
5. Make manual editing for some of them
6. Move jpg files to dir one level above
7. Remove dng files with red flag
8. Comment, star, tag and so on to **jpegs**
9. Export some images to public website (remove all metada, resize to 1024x,
add watermark, add tag "Public" to the origin)
10. Do backup (rsync) of ~/photos every week to external drive

So I store jpg files with metadata in it and dng ones  for **some of them**  in
separate directory
As you can see I don't use versions feature.  What is limitations of such DAM
flow?

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[tosca]

Simple: I shoot RAW only, as I have no use for an additional ready-cooked JPEG.

I make a rather strict selection, and only develop about 10%-15% of what I've shot. In the very rare cases I need to produce a huge number of pictures in a limited time, Digikam batch tool manager can automatically produce JPEGs that are as good as what can do my camera.

And by the way, I use Darktable for working on RAW pictures, and export them in TIFF format to Digikam collections.

Marie-Noëlle

2014-09-25 22:36 GMT+02:00 Jan Wolter <[hidden email]>:

Instead I would like to ask all of you shooting also jpeg+raw, how do you manage the two file types in digikam.

Do you store jpeg and raw files in the same album or do you have sub-albums for the raw files, for example?
I have all files (of a particular "project" or holiday) in one album and use a filter to switch between jpeg and raw files.

Do you tag jpeg as well as raw files? Or do you tag only the jpeg files? But when you derive a new jpeg from a raw file, you have to copy the tags from the original jpeg (which the camera processed) to the new jpeg. (By the way: provides digikam a function to copy all tags from one image to another?) Up to now, I don't have a good strategy, how to handle this aspect.

It would be nice to hear some thoughts and strategies how you handle jpeg+raw files.

Bests,
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[Boudewijn]

> 2014-09-25 22:36 GMT+02:00 Jan Wolter <[hidden email]>:
> > Instead I would like to ask all of you shooting also jpeg+raw, how do you
> > manage the two file types in digikam.
I shoot raw+jpeg. In Digikam I exclude .nef/.NEF extensions (using -nef and -
NEF) in the settings) from showing, and use the jpegs as sidecars to the NEFs.
Both files are in the same directory.

I am not aware of a function in Digikam to copy a set of tags from one file to
another. It has not occured often though: most edited photos are for temporary
goals, and those that are not often have a somewhat different set of tags
associated.

Best regards,

Boudewijn

(sorry for replying out of thread; Jans mail is not in my mailbox)
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[Axel Klein]

Hi *,

I shoot jpeg and raw. Here is my flow:

-Import and rename (yy_mm_<original filename>) with Digikam to a
directory of the year.
-Rate: No star: to be deleted, 1 star: kept for documentation, 2 stars:
good for publishing on the web, 3 stars: good for print-out, 4 stars:
the very good ones.
-Tag: -Year (e.g. 2014), -Event (e.g. 14_09_Bike_Ride_with_Julia),
potentially -Location (e.g. At home), People (e.g. Hans, Julia, ...)
-Move the raws to a different directory on another disk, directory of
the year.

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At this step I would really like to have a way to mark the raw file as a
version of the jpeg!!
The reason is I could keep track of raws much easier as they would be
connected in digikam to the jpeg.
Is that possible?
If not, may that be implemented?
----

-Create two versions of each jpegs with at least two stars:
  - 1024 for picture frame
  - 1920 for web publishing and albums
 and store them in two different
 directories:
  Pictureframe/<Year>
  ScreenResolution/<Year>

-For web-publishing create a directory
  - e.g. Albums/14_09_Bike_Ride_with_Julia
 and copy jpegs with 1920 resolution into it.
-In case publish album-directory.
-Of course: Backup all the directories often!

For now I process practically only jpegs. As long as the space is enough
on the "raw-disk" I also copy them as described.
And now, for e.g. deleting all pictures with no star later, I would love
that the raw-files are connected to the jpegs in digikam. So I could
delete also the respective raws when deleting the jpegs in one shot.
The same holds true also for any processing or change in rating, tags,
and so on.

Is there any chance to get that functionality?
Thank you in advance for your answer.

Best regards
Axel

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> Hello,
>
> I use the light-table to select the best shots from a particular series
> of pictures and delete the others. Afterwards, I tag all photos and rate
> the best shots. To the really best photos I apply some improving editing
> operations.
>
> With my old camera, I shot jpeg pictures only. With my new camera I shot
> in jpeg+raw mode and I learned a lot about processing raw with digikam.
> In some situations I got more satisfactory results from manual raw
> processing. But this should be not the point writing about here. Instead
> I would like to ask all of you shooting also jpeg+raw, how do you manage
> the two file types in digikam.
>
> Do you store jpeg and raw files in the same album or do you have
> sub-albums for the raw files, for example?
> I have all files (of a particular "project" or holiday) in one album and
> use a filter to switch between jpeg and raw files.
>
> Do you tag jpeg as well as raw files? Or do you tag only the jpeg files?
> But when you derive a new jpeg from a raw file, you have to copy the
> tags from the original jpeg (which the camera processed) to the new
> jpeg. (By the way: provides digikam a function to copy all tags from one
> image to another?) Up to now, I don't have a good strategy, how to
> handle this aspect.
>
> It would be nice to hear some thoughts and strategies how you handle
> jpeg+raw files.
>
> Bests,
> Jan
>
> On 23.09.2014 11:25, Anders Kamf wrote:
>> This is my workflow.
>>
>>  -I work mainly with private photos, e.g. from family events and so
>> on. I handle photos from several cameras and from smart phones
>> together. I put a timestamp (from metadata) in the filename so they
>> are displayed in chronological order, even when viewed in a file browser.
>>  -Since I no longer have time for post processing, I use only JPEG -
>> even for photos from my DSLR cameras.
>>  -I want the information to travel with the picture, i.e. I store all
>> as metadata in the files.
>>  -I use rating to make a selection of pictures from each event, rather
>> than saying "rating 5 is a really good picture".
>>
>>
>> 1. Transfer photos from cameras, together with rename and setting
>> rating to 2, with a bash script to ~/photos/edit/YYYY/YYMMDD_EVENT,
>> naming: YYYYMMDD-HHMM_CAMERAID_ORGFILENAME
>> 2. Manual backup of ~/photos/edit/ to external disc using rsync
>> 3. Sort pictures using the rating and rating filter - viewing 2 stars
>> and above:
>>    a) Bad pictures gets rating 1 (I delete them all later on)
>>    b) Good pictures, but not duplicates, gets rating 3
>>    c) Change filter to 3 stars and above. If there are too many of
>> rating 3, fine tune by set the best ones to rating 4. Continue to
>> rating 5 if needed.
>> 4. Tag the finest selection with tag Selection-1, the next finest with
>> Selection-2 and so on. This way the finest selection from an event is
>> always tagged Selection-1, no matter if the finest rating has reached
>> 3, 4 or 5 stars.
>> 5. Occasionally, do some manual editing like crop
>> 6. Apply additional tags
>> 7. Move from edit directory to ~photos/album/YYYY/, which has
>> automated backup with rsnapshot
>>
>> I put a small JPEG-file in each directory (with the initial script)
>> and use it to keep track of my workflow progress for that directory
>> and for information/notes that goes for the whole directory. This is
>> my way to store metadata for a folder.
>>
>> Regards
>> Anders
>>
>>
>> 2014-09-21 21:09 GMT+02:00 jdd <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>
>>     Le 21/09/2014 21:01, Gilles Caulier a ?crit :
>>
>>         To resume : my free time is very precious, and i won't to
>>         waste time
>>         with post processing on computer.
>>
>>
>>     same as you.
>>
>>     but the problem is probably most a question of number.
>>
>>     I have to shoot many images and can't afford to post edit them
>>     (apart basics like resize).
>>
>>     I know people that shoot only a handfull of images and spend many
>>     time refining them, of course in raw. It was the same with roll
>>     film...
>>
>>     no problem, simply not my use
>>
>>     jdd
>>
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Axel,

You can group images. Select both, right-mouse-click and select group.

Although both images stay in their respective directories, DK shows them
grouped under the image you first selected.

Cheers Simon

On 29/09/14 00:17, Axel Klein wrote:

> Hi *,
>
> I shoot jpeg and raw. Here is my flow:
>
> -Import and rename (yy_mm_<original filename>) with Digikam to a
> directory of the year.
> -Rate: No star: to be deleted, 1 star: kept for documentation, 2 stars:
> good for publishing on the web, 3 stars: good for print-out, 4 stars:
> the very good ones.
> -Tag: -Year (e.g. 2014), -Event (e.g. 14_09_Bike_Ride_with_Julia),
> potentially -Location (e.g. At home), People (e.g. Hans, Julia, ...)
> -Move the raws to a different directory on another disk, directory of
> the year.
>
> ----
> At this step I would really like to have a way to mark the raw file as a
> version of the jpeg!!
> The reason is I could keep track of raws much easier as they would be
> connected in digikam to the jpeg.
> Is that possible?
> If not, may that be implemented?
> ----
>
> -Create two versions of each jpegs with at least two stars:
>    - 1024 for picture frame
>    - 1920 for web publishing and albums
>   and store them in two different
>   directories:
>    Pictureframe/<Year>
>    ScreenResolution/<Year>
>
> -For web-publishing create a directory
>    - e.g. Albums/14_09_Bike_Ride_with_Julia
>   and copy jpegs with 1920 resolution into it.
> -In case publish album-directory.
> -Of course: Backup all the directories often!
>
> For now I process practically only jpegs. As long as the space is enough
> on the "raw-disk" I also copy them as described.
> And now, for e.g. deleting all pictures with no star later, I would love
> that the raw-files are connected to the jpegs in digikam. So I could
> delete also the respective raws when deleting the jpegs in one shot.
> The same holds true also for any processing or change in rating, tags,
> and so on.
>
> Is there any chance to get that functionality?
> Thank you in advance for your answer.
>
> Best regards
> Axel
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 22:36:17 +0200
>> From: Jan Wolter <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Digital Asset Management (DAM) question:
>> final formats, meta data and so on
>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I use the light-table to select the best shots from a particular series
>> of pictures and delete the others. Afterwards, I tag all photos and rate
>> the best shots. To the really best photos I apply some improving editing
>> operations.
>>
>> With my old camera, I shot jpeg pictures only. With my new camera I shot
>> in jpeg+raw mode and I learned a lot about processing raw with digikam.
>> In some situations I got more satisfactory results from manual raw
>> processing. But this should be not the point writing about here. Instead
>> I would like to ask all of you shooting also jpeg+raw, how do you manage
>> the two file types in digikam.
>>
>> Do you store jpeg and raw files in the same album or do you have
>> sub-albums for the raw files, for example?
>> I have all files (of a particular "project" or holiday) in one album and
>> use a filter to switch between jpeg and raw files.
>>
>> Do you tag jpeg as well as raw files? Or do you tag only the jpeg files?
>> But when you derive a new jpeg from a raw file, you have to copy the
>> tags from the original jpeg (which the camera processed) to the new
>> jpeg. (By the way: provides digikam a function to copy all tags from one
>> image to another?) Up to now, I don't have a good strategy, how to
>> handle this aspect.
>>
>> It would be nice to hear some thoughts and strategies how you handle
>> jpeg+raw files.
>>
>> Bests,
>> Jan
>>
>> On 23.09.2014 11:25, Anders Kamf wrote:
>>> This is my workflow.
>>>
>>>   -I work mainly with private photos, e.g. from family events and so
>>> on. I handle photos from several cameras and from smart phones
>>> together. I put a timestamp (from metadata) in the filename so they
>>> are displayed in chronological order, even when viewed in a file browser.
>>>   -Since I no longer have time for post processing, I use only JPEG -
>>> even for photos from my DSLR cameras.
>>>   -I want the information to travel with the picture, i.e. I store all
>>> as metadata in the files.
>>>   -I use rating to make a selection of pictures from each event, rather
>>> than saying "rating 5 is a really good picture".
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Transfer photos from cameras, together with rename and setting
>>> rating to 2, with a bash script to ~/photos/edit/YYYY/YYMMDD_EVENT,
>>> naming: YYYYMMDD-HHMM_CAMERAID_ORGFILENAME
>>> 2. Manual backup of ~/photos/edit/ to external disc using rsync
>>> 3. Sort pictures using the rating and rating filter - viewing 2 stars
>>> and above:
>>>     a) Bad pictures gets rating 1 (I delete them all later on)
>>>     b) Good pictures, but not duplicates, gets rating 3
>>>     c) Change filter to 3 stars and above. If there are too many of
>>> rating 3, fine tune by set the best ones to rating 4. Continue to
>>> rating 5 if needed.
>>> 4. Tag the finest selection with tag Selection-1, the next finest with
>>> Selection-2 and so on. This way the finest selection from an event is
>>> always tagged Selection-1, no matter if the finest rating has reached
>>> 3, 4 or 5 stars.
>>> 5. Occasionally, do some manual editing like crop
>>> 6. Apply additional tags
>>> 7. Move from edit directory to ~photos/album/YYYY/, which has
>>> automated backup with rsnapshot
>>>
>>> I put a small JPEG-file in each directory (with the initial script)
>>> and use it to keep track of my workflow progress for that directory
>>> and for information/notes that goes for the whole directory. This is
>>> my way to store metadata for a folder.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Anders
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-09-21 21:09 GMT+02:00 jdd <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>>
>>>      Le 21/09/2014 21:01, Gilles Caulier a ?crit :
>>>
>>>          To resume : my free time is very precious, and i won't to
>>>          waste time
>>>          with post processing on computer.
>>>
>>>
>>>      same as you.
>>>
>>>      but the problem is probably most a question of number.
>>>
>>>      I have to shoot many images and can't afford to post edit them
>>>      (apart basics like resize).
>>>
>>>      I know people that shoot only a handfull of images and spend many
>>>      time refining them, of course in raw. It was the same with roll
>>>      film...
>>>
>>>      no problem, simply not my use
>>>
>>>      jdd
>>>
>>>      --
>>>      http://www.dodin.org
>>>
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