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Re: Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency

Gilles Caulier-4
Ok perfect.

Other test please : if you can checkout current code from git/master,
and test if my last commit work as expected. As 3.4.0 will be released
this sunday, i would to be sure to not break something.

Thanks in advance

Gilles Caulier

2013/8/30  <[hidden email]>:

> I just try with Capture NX2 to set a color label and it appears there's nothing write in IPTC by capture NX apparently... I have only data wrote by my camera in IPTC.
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: [hidden email]
> À: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source" <[hidden email]>
> Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Août 2013 10:55:27
> Objet: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency
>
> Perfect then, I'll just try with NX2.
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]>
> À: "Nicolas Boulesteix" <[hidden email]>, "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source" <[hidden email]>
> Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Août 2013 08:11:47
> Objet: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency
>
> No, no need NX1. It's too old.
>
> I would better know LR and Aperture behavior in same conditions...
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2013/8/30 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>> Wonderful,
>>
>> As I remember, I'm not sure Capture NX 2 set iptc anymore, but I'll check it
>> today.
>>
>> May be I could try to install Capture NX 1 and test it too (as it is older
>> may be it used iptc ?).
>>
>> Thanks for your works anyway !
>>
>> Le Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:09:54 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>
>>
>>> Anyway, digiKam 3.4.0 will manage XMP PHotoShop Urgency to load/save
>>> Color Labels :
>>>
>>> http://commits.kde.org/digikam/8d1cd024ea8dec77c3a6f7e5f8e5d2fee1fc14f8
>>>
>>> I'm way your feedback about IPTC tags to manage in the same way...
>>>
>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>
>>> 2013/8/30 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>
>>>> In IPTC there is also another tags to check :
>>>> Iptc.Envelope.EnvelopePriority which is used in the same way than
>>>> Iptc.Application2.Urgency...
>>>>
>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>
>>>> 2013/8/30 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you check if Nikon NX patch also Iptc.Application2.Urgency tag
>>>>> from IPTC in the same way than xmp.photoshop.urgency with Color labels
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/8/26 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just make a try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I set xmp.photoshop.urgency tag with Digikam (with metadata tool),
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> set urgency is take in count by Capture NX 2, even if a previous color
>>>>>> label
>>>>>> was set in Capture NX 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems xmp.photoshop.urgency have priority on xmp.xmp.label set by
>>>>>> Capture
>>>>>> NX 2 too, since when I set urgency in digikam, the new color label was
>>>>>> shown
>>>>>> in Capture NX but the original xmp.xmp.label still exist and is set to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> old value...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:08:30 +0200, Photonoxx <[hidden email]> a
>>>>>> écrit:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I spoke about Xmp.photoshop.urgency which have just value from 1
>>>>>>> to 9
>>>>>>> (0 value doesn't seems to exist).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think if Digikam write this tag, Capture should be able to read it
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> display a color label.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try to set urgency in digikam (with kipi xmp editor) and see if
>>>>>>> Capture NX display a color tag or not...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:05:15 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, this is not exactly the same values, if we follow color scheme :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> value    DK Color Label    Xmp.xmp.Label
>>>>>>>>   0         None                       None
>>>>>>>>   1         Red                        Red
>>>>>>>>   2         Orange                   Orange
>>>>>>>>   3         Yellow                    Yellow
>>>>>>>>   4         Green                     Green
>>>>>>>>   5         Blue                        Cyan
>>>>>>>>   6         Magenta                  Blue
>>>>>>>>   7         Gray                       Violet
>>>>>>>>   8         Black                      Magenta
>>>>>>>>   9         White                      Rose
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I already do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> photoshop Urgency tag (as used by Capture NX) have exactly the same
>>>>>>>>> value as
>>>>>>>>> digikam.colorlabel I guess.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Instead of Xmp.digikam.colorlabel the tag is just
>>>>>>>>> Xmp.photoshop.Urgency
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> a value starting at 1 to 9
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my first post you can see the values.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tell me if I miss something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:55:21 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My will was not to see Capture NX xmp.label take in charge since
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>>>> agree with you about the absurdity to set tag entries in native
>>>>>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I most hoped it would be possible to take xmp.photoshop urgency in
>>>>>>>>>>> count.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's possible. I'm always favorable to improve
>>>>>>>>>> interoperability.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just give me the map for import Nik* Color Labels to DK. It will
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> 10 mns to code...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Nicolas Boulesteix
>>>>>>>>> Photographe chasseur de lueurs
>>>>>>>>> http://www.photonoxx.fr
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Nicolas Boulesteix
>>>>>> Photographe chasseur de lueurs
>>>>>> http://www.photonoxx.fr
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.photonoxx.fr
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Re: Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency

Gilles Caulier-4
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Christoph,

Note that Metadata editor in digiKam is avalaible in
Image/Metadata/Edit menu entry

To change urgency tag, go to XMP view and Properties section. There is
a Priority field which adjust xmp.photoshop.urgency

Gilles Caulier

2013/8/30 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:

> Hi, Christoph,
>
> There is 2 tests to do :
>
> - In LR, assign a color label to an image and look if
> xmp.photoshop.urgency XMP tag is changed with an integer value (0 to
> 9).
>
> - In digiKam, using MetadataEdit kipi plugin, assign a numerical value
> to xmp.photoshop.urgency XMP to an image, and import it to LR. Look if
> LR enable color label automatically.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
>
> 2013/8/29 Christoph Siedentop <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi Gilles,
>>
>> On 29 Aug 2013 22:40, "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, it's sound like xmp.xmp.label is just a descriptive text for
>>> xmp.photoshop.urgency
>>>
>>> I will set digiKam color label value to  xmp.photoshop.urgency by
>>> default...
>>>
>>> Anybody as a feedback about this feature with Adobe LightRoom ?
>>
>> I have lightroom available and can check. What exact test should be done?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christoph
>>
>>>
>>> Note : I just look in Exiftool about this tag, and i can see this details
>>> :
>>>
>>> xmp.photoshop.urgency : integer (should be in the range 1-8 to conform
>>> with the XMP spec)
>>> 0 = 0 (reserved)
>>> 1 = 1 (most urgent)
>>> 2 = 2
>>> 3 = 3
>>> 4 = 4
>>> 5 = 5 (normal urgency)
>>> 6 = 6
>>> 7 = 7
>>> 8 = 8 (least urgent)
>>> 9 = 9 (user-defined priority)
>>>
>>> ...where xmp.xmp.label is just a simple string.
>>>
>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>
>>> 2013/8/26 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>> > I just make a try.
>>> >
>>> > If I set xmp.photoshop.urgency tag with Digikam (with metadata tool),
>>> > the
>>> > set urgency is take in count by Capture NX 2, even if a previous color
>>> > label
>>> > was set in Capture NX 2.
>>> >
>>> > It seems xmp.photoshop.urgency have priority on xmp.xmp.label set by
>>> > Capture
>>> > NX 2 too, since when I set urgency in digikam, the new color label was
>>> > shown
>>> > in Capture NX but the original xmp.xmp.label still exist and is set to
>>> > the
>>> > old value...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:08:30 +0200, Photonoxx <[hidden email]> a
>>> > écrit:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Yes, I spoke about Xmp.photoshop.urgency which have just value from 1
>>> >> to 9
>>> >> (0 value doesn't seems to exist).
>>> >>
>>> >> I think if Digikam write this tag, Capture should be able to read it
>>> >> and
>>> >> display a color label.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll try to set urgency in digikam (with kipi xmp editor) and see if
>>> >> Capture NX display a color tag or not...
>>> >>
>>> >> Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:05:15 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>> >> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> No, this is not exactly the same values, if we follow color scheme :
>>> >>>
>>> >>> value    DK Color Label    Xmp.xmp.Label
>>> >>>   0         None                       None
>>> >>>   1         Red                        Red
>>> >>>   2         Orange                   Orange
>>> >>>   3         Yellow                    Yellow
>>> >>>   4         Green                     Green
>>> >>>   5         Blue                        Cyan
>>> >>>   6         Magenta                  Blue
>>> >>>   7         Gray                       Violet
>>> >>>   8         Black                      Magenta
>>> >>>   9         White                      Rose
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Gilles Caulier
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> So I already do.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> photoshop Urgency tag (as used by Capture NX) have exactly the same
>>> >>>> value as
>>> >>>> digikam.colorlabel I guess.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Instead of Xmp.digikam.colorlabel the tag is just
>>> >>>> Xmp.photoshop.Urgency
>>> >>>> with
>>> >>>> a value starting at 1 to 9
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In my first post you can see the values.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Tell me if I miss something.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Le Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:55:21 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>> >>>> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the answer.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> My will was not to see Capture NX xmp.label take in charge since
>>> >>>>>> I'm
>>> >>>>>> totally
>>> >>>>>> agree with you about the absurdity to set tag entries in native
>>> >>>>>> language.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I most hoped it would be possible to take xmp.photoshop urgency in
>>> >>>>>> count.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Yes, it's possible. I'm always favorable to improve
>>> >>>>> interoperability.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Just give me the map for import Nik* Color Labels to DK. It will
>>> >>>>> take
>>> >>>>> 10 mns to code...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>> >>>>> [hidden email]
>>> >>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> Nicolas Boulesteix
>>> >>>> Photographe chasseur de lueurs
>>> >>>> http://www.photonoxx.fr
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>> >>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>> >>> [hidden email]
>>> >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Nicolas Boulesteix
>>> > Photographe chasseur de lueurs
>>> > http://www.photonoxx.fr
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Digikam-users mailing list
>>> > [hidden email]
>>> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency

Christoph Siedentop-2
Dear Giles,

Lightroom (LR 4.4) does not save anything as xmp.photoshop.urgency. The colour flag is saved as xmp:Label="MyColour", where MyColour is the name given to the colour flag. By default this is yellow, green etc. Although on my system it is actually in German because LR was installed when the system language was German. One label I tested this with, I had defined to be "Report" and it shows up as such in xmp:Label.

Aperture (version 3.4.3) saves the label in the following way: <xap:Label>Green</xap:Label>.  Unfortunately, it seems automatic export of xmp sidecar files is not possible with Aperture (Go to File > Export > Originals, select Create ITPC4XMP).

I just had Digikam 2.5 available (I might be able to get some time on Sunday to use version 3.x I am normally using it but it is not available on the current machine.). There the urgency was not saved to the sidecars file, even though I had this set as you described (Image/Metadata/Edit All Metadata; Edit XMP tab, Properties; Priority). Also, as soon as I click Apply the Priority vanishes again.

In Digikam the normal Color Label is ignored when importing to Lightroom.

Manually adding xmp:photoshop:urgency and variations doesn't seem to have any effect in LR. No colour label changes.

If I can do some more, let me know. Tomorrow evening I have some further time and Sunday.

Regards,
Christoph


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:
Christoph,

Note that Metadata editor in digiKam is avalaible in
Image/Metadata/Edit menu entry

To change urgency tag, go to XMP view and Properties section. There is
a Priority field which adjust xmp.photoshop.urgency

Gilles Caulier

2013/8/30 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
> Hi, Christoph,
>
> There is 2 tests to do :
>
> - In LR, assign a color label to an image and look if
> xmp.photoshop.urgency XMP tag is changed with an integer value (0 to
> 9).
>
> - In digiKam, using MetadataEdit kipi plugin, assign a numerical value
> to xmp.photoshop.urgency XMP to an image, and import it to LR. Look if
> LR enable color label automatically.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
>
> 2013/8/29 Christoph Siedentop <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi Gilles,
>>
>> On 29 Aug 2013 22:40, "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, it's sound like xmp.xmp.label is just a descriptive text for
>>> xmp.photoshop.urgency
>>>
>>> I will set digiKam color label value to  xmp.photoshop.urgency by
>>> default...
>>>
>>> Anybody as a feedback about this feature with Adobe LightRoom ?
>>
>> I have lightroom available and can check. What exact test should be done?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christoph
>>
>>>
>>> Note : I just look in Exiftool about this tag, and i can see this details
>>> :
>>>
>>> xmp.photoshop.urgency : integer (should be in the range 1-8 to conform
>>> with the XMP spec)
>>> 0 = 0 (reserved)
>>> 1 = 1 (most urgent)
>>> 2 = 2
>>> 3 = 3
>>> 4 = 4
>>> 5 = 5 (normal urgency)
>>> 6 = 6
>>> 7 = 7
>>> 8 = 8 (least urgent)
>>> 9 = 9 (user-defined priority)
>>>
>>> ...where xmp.xmp.label is just a simple string.
>>>
>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>
>>> 2013/8/26 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>> > I just make a try.
>>> >
>>> > If I set xmp.photoshop.urgency tag with Digikam (with metadata tool),
>>> > the
>>> > set urgency is take in count by Capture NX 2, even if a previous color
>>> > label
>>> > was set in Capture NX 2.
>>> >
>>> > It seems xmp.photoshop.urgency have priority on xmp.xmp.label set by
>>> > Capture
>>> > NX 2 too, since when I set urgency in digikam, the new color label was
>>> > shown
>>> > in Capture NX but the original xmp.xmp.label still exist and is set to
>>> > the
>>> > old value...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:08:30 +0200, Photonoxx <[hidden email]> a
>>> > écrit:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Yes, I spoke about Xmp.photoshop.urgency which have just value from 1
>>> >> to 9
>>> >> (0 value doesn't seems to exist).
>>> >>
>>> >> I think if Digikam write this tag, Capture should be able to read it
>>> >> and
>>> >> display a color label.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll try to set urgency in digikam (with kipi xmp editor) and see if
>>> >> Capture NX display a color tag or not...
>>> >>
>>> >> Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:05:15 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>> >> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> No, this is not exactly the same values, if we follow color scheme :
>>> >>>
>>> >>> value    DK Color Label    Xmp.xmp.Label
>>> >>>   0         None                       None
>>> >>>   1         Red                        Red
>>> >>>   2         Orange                   Orange
>>> >>>   3         Yellow                    Yellow
>>> >>>   4         Green                     Green
>>> >>>   5         Blue                        Cyan
>>> >>>   6         Magenta                  Blue
>>> >>>   7         Gray                       Violet
>>> >>>   8         Black                      Magenta
>>> >>>   9         White                      Rose
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Gilles Caulier
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> So I already do.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> photoshop Urgency tag (as used by Capture NX) have exactly the same
>>> >>>> value as
>>> >>>> digikam.colorlabel I guess.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Instead of Xmp.digikam.colorlabel the tag is just
>>> >>>> Xmp.photoshop.Urgency
>>> >>>> with
>>> >>>> a value starting at 1 to 9
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In my first post you can see the values.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Tell me if I miss something.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Le Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:55:21 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>> >>>> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the answer.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> My will was not to see Capture NX xmp.label take in charge since
>>> >>>>>> I'm
>>> >>>>>> totally
>>> >>>>>> agree with you about the absurdity to set tag entries in native
>>> >>>>>> language.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I most hoped it would be possible to take xmp.photoshop urgency in
>>> >>>>>> count.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Yes, it's possible. I'm always favorable to improve
>>> >>>>> interoperability.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Just give me the map for import Nik* Color Labels to DK. It will
>>> >>>>> take
>>> >>>>> 10 mns to code...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>> >>>>> [hidden email]
>>> >>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> Nicolas Boulesteix
>>> >>>> Photographe chasseur de lueurs
>>> >>>> http://www.photonoxx.fr
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>> >>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>> >>> [hidden email]
>>> >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Nicolas Boulesteix
>>> > Photographe chasseur de lueurs
>>> > http://www.photonoxx.fr
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Digikam-users mailing list
>>> > [hidden email]
>>> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>
>>
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Re: Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency

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2013/8/30 Christoph Siedentop <[hidden email]>:
> Dear Giles,
>
> Lightroom (LR 4.4) does not save anything as xmp.photoshop.urgency. The
> colour flag is saved as xmp:Label="MyColour", where MyColour is the name
> given to the colour flag. By default this is yellow, green etc. Although on
> my system it is actually in German because LR was installed when the system
> language was German. One label I tested this with, I had defined to be
> "Report" and it shows up as such in xmp:Label.


I'm so surprised to see LR only set a translated string to indicate
which color label is assigned to item. It will be the hell to manage
with import/export operations.

Can you take an item without CL and save XMP sidecar, and do the same
with color label assigned.

I would to compare content before and after assignement.

If LR can generate XMP sidecar files, it's enough to hack.

Thanks

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Re: Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency

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Ok, I build and install 3.4 yesterday and made some try this morning.

"Export" color label from Digikam to Capture NX 2 seems to work perfectly.  
Digikam write well urgency tag and Capture NX 2  take in count instantly  
(using Wine, not usable since edit windows display Red and Blue channel  
inverted, but color tag and thumbnail work well).

On the other hand there's no import of color label from Capture NX 2 even  
if no digikam color label tag exists (I mean no tag at all and not 0 value  
where indeed tag exists), but may be it's normal.

If color label is set in digikam and changed after that in Capture NX 2,  
Digikam stay at its color label and the two different values coexist until  
I tell digikam to write metadata in file, but this is more difficult to do  
I thing, and could probably have unexpected  effects in case where more  
than one color label importable tag are set with different values in each.

At less, it could be nice if label was imported when digikam color label  
doesn't exist yet, but it will have a small impact anyway, since Digikam  
seems to set color label to 0 the first time metadatas are set.


Le Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:33:42 +0200, Gilles Caulier  
<[hidden email]> a écrit:

> Ok perfect.
>
> Other test please : if you can checkout current code from git/master,
> and test if my last commit work as expected. As 3.4.0 will be released
> this sunday, i would to be sure to not break something.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2013/8/30  <[hidden email]>:
>> I just try with Capture NX2 to set a color label and it appears there's  
>> nothing write in IPTC by capture NX apparently... I have only data  
>> wrote by my camera in IPTC.
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: [hidden email]
>> À: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the  
>> power of open source" <[hidden email]>
>> Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Août 2013 10:55:27
>> Objet: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency
>>
>> Perfect then, I'll just try with NX2.
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Gilles Caulier" <[hidden email]>
>> À: "Nicolas Boulesteix" <[hidden email]>, "digiKam - Home Manage  
>> your photographs as a professional with the power of open source"  
>> <[hidden email]>
>> Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Août 2013 08:11:47
>> Objet: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency
>>
>> No, no need NX1. It's too old.
>>
>> I would better know LR and Aperture behavior in same conditions...
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2013/8/30 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>> Wonderful,
>>>
>>> As I remember, I'm not sure Capture NX 2 set iptc anymore, but I'll  
>>> check it
>>> today.
>>>
>>> May be I could try to install Capture NX 1 and test it too (as it is  
>>> older
>>> may be it used iptc ?).
>>>
>>> Thanks for your works anyway !
>>>
>>> Le Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:09:54 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyway, digiKam 3.4.0 will manage XMP PHotoShop Urgency to load/save
>>>> Color Labels :
>>>>
>>>> http://commits.kde.org/digikam/8d1cd024ea8dec77c3a6f7e5f8e5d2fee1fc14f8
>>>>
>>>> I'm way your feedback about IPTC tags to manage in the same way...
>>>>
>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>
>>>> 2013/8/30 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>>
>>>>> In IPTC there is also another tags to check :
>>>>> Iptc.Envelope.EnvelopePriority which is used in the same way than
>>>>> Iptc.Application2.Urgency...
>>>>>
>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/8/30 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you check if Nikon NX patch also Iptc.Application2.Urgency tag
>>>>>> from IPTC in the same way than xmp.photoshop.urgency with Color  
>>>>>> labels
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/8/26 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just make a try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I set xmp.photoshop.urgency tag with Digikam (with metadata  
>>>>>>> tool),
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> set urgency is take in count by Capture NX 2, even if a previous  
>>>>>>> color
>>>>>>> label
>>>>>>> was set in Capture NX 2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems xmp.photoshop.urgency have priority on xmp.xmp.label set  
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> Capture
>>>>>>> NX 2 too, since when I set urgency in digikam, the new color label  
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> shown
>>>>>>> in Capture NX but the original xmp.xmp.label still exist and is  
>>>>>>> set to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> old value...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:08:30 +0200, Photonoxx <[hidden email]> a
>>>>>>> écrit:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I spoke about Xmp.photoshop.urgency which have just value  
>>>>>>>> from 1
>>>>>>>> to 9
>>>>>>>> (0 value doesn't seems to exist).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think if Digikam write this tag, Capture should be able to read  
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> display a color label.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll try to set urgency in digikam (with kipi xmp editor) and see  
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> Capture NX display a color tag or not...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:05:15 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, this is not exactly the same values, if we follow color  
>>>>>>>>> scheme :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> value    DK Color Label    Xmp.xmp.Label
>>>>>>>>>   0         None                       None
>>>>>>>>>   1         Red                        Red
>>>>>>>>>   2         Orange                   Orange
>>>>>>>>>   3         Yellow                    Yellow
>>>>>>>>>   4         Green                     Green
>>>>>>>>>   5         Blue                        Cyan
>>>>>>>>>   6         Magenta                  Blue
>>>>>>>>>   7         Gray                       Violet
>>>>>>>>>   8         Black                      Magenta
>>>>>>>>>   9         White                      Rose
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I already do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> photoshop Urgency tag (as used by Capture NX) have exactly the  
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> value as
>>>>>>>>>> digikam.colorlabel I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Instead of Xmp.digikam.colorlabel the tag is just
>>>>>>>>>> Xmp.photoshop.Urgency
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> a value starting at 1 to 9
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my first post you can see the values.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tell me if I miss something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:55:21 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My will was not to see Capture NX xmp.label take in charge  
>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>>>>> agree with you about the absurdity to set tag entries in  
>>>>>>>>>>>> native
>>>>>>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I most hoped it would be possible to take xmp.photoshop  
>>>>>>>>>>>> urgency in
>>>>>>>>>>>> count.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's possible. I'm always favorable to improve
>>>>>>>>>>> interoperability.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just give me the map for import Nik* Color Labels to DK. It  
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>> 10 mns to code...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Nicolas Boulesteix
>>>>>>>>>> Photographe chasseur de lueurs
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.photonoxx.fr
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Re: Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency

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2013/8/31 Photonoxx <[hidden email]>:

> Ok, I build and install 3.4 yesterday and made some try this morning.
>
> "Export" color label from Digikam to Capture NX 2 seems to work perfectly.
> Digikam write well urgency tag and Capture NX 2  take in count instantly
> (using Wine, not usable since edit windows display Red and Blue channel
> inverted, but color tag and thumbnail work well).
>
> On the other hand there's no import of color label from Capture NX 2 even if
> no digikam color label tag exists (I mean no tag at all and not 0 value
> where indeed tag exists), but may be it's normal.
>
> If color label is set in digikam and changed after that in Capture NX 2,
> Digikam stay at its color label and the two different values coexist until I
> tell digikam to write metadata in file, but this is more difficult to do I
> thing, and could probably have unexpected  effects in case where more than
> one color label importable tag are set with different values in each.
>

Here you are wrong i think. When you import back from NX to DK, you
must force DB to be updated and take a care about metadata change done
by NX. It's simple : use menu entry Image/Sync DB with metadata.

Note : You can do it in Batch now using dedicated Maintenance tools
which use multithreading and multicore CPU with 3.4.0...


> At less, it could be nice if label was imported when digikam color label
> doesn't exist yet, but it will have a small impact anyway, since Digikam
> seems to set color label to 0 the first time metadatas are set.
>

See my previous comment which can be the solution.

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