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Heikki Rekki

DigiKam and ACDSee

I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).

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Johannes Kapune

Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

Hi Heikki,

if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
that DigiKam will show them.

So what special metadata do you searching for?

You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside
of photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
photos?

Johannes

Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:

> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
> Heikki
>
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Gilles Caulier-4

Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.

At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in digiKam.

Note : there are 3 situations possible :

1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.

Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
ask me to import this information from a private database.

Gilles Caulier

2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Heikki,
>
> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
> that DigiKam will show them.
>
> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>
> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside of
> photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your photos?
>
> Johannes
>
> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>>
>> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> Windows).
>> Heikki
>>
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Francis Corvin

Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

ACDSee keeps metadata in its proprietary database by default. However, it has a command to embed them in picture files. So overall this should be doable.

The only issue is whether some tags are used for the same purpose in DigiKam and ACDSee. In particular, ACDSee uses hierarchical categories---one of the most interesting features about ACDSee. Since no metadata model allows for this as standard, they use a fudge that I would not expect any other software to read. On a large collection, that would be a tedious manual process, unless you were good at scripting a text parser.

Best regards,

Francis

On 2015-03-08 16:50, Gilles Caulier wrote:

> <pre wrap>
> I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>
> At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in digiKam.
>
> Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>
> 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
> 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
> 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>
> Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
> ask me to import this information from a private database.
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>:
> </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
> Hi Heikki,
>
> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
> that DigiKam will show them.
>
> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>
> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside of
> photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your photos?
>
> Johannes
>
> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
> </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>
> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
> Windows).
> Heikki
>
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Alan Pater

Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

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I don't read German, but perhaps this forum post will help?

http://www.pferdeknipser.de/ACDSee_Forum/viewtopic.php?t=254

In any case, there are methods out there to convert all the images at once, not one by one.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Jim MacLeod <[hidden email]> wrote:

Heikki

I was thinking that Exiftool can extract all metadata to a file in Windows and then you could import it with Digikam - but then again I only have a few hundred jpg's. I've played around with Exif and it is very powerful

Just an idea
Jim

On 9 March 2015 at 21:41, Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Thanks Jim. I tried Exiftool and got following txt file.
ExifTool Version Number : 9.89
File Name : P1070219.jpg
Directory : e:/6-Kuvat/1-Kamera/1-Lumix/2012/2012-04-09
File Size : 3.2 MB
File Modification Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
File Access Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
File Creation Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
File Permissions : rw-rw-rw-
File Type : JPEG
MIME Type : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order : Little-endian (Intel, II)
Make : Panasonic
Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ18
Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
X Resolution : 72
Y Resolution : 72
Resolution Unit : inches
Software : Nikon Transfer 1.5 W
Modify Date : 2012:04:09 17:19:10
Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered
Exposure Time : 1/50
F Number : 3.6
Exposure Program : Program AE
ISO : 200
Exif Version : 0221
Date/Time Original : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
Create Date : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -
Exposure Compensation : 0
Max Aperture Value : 2.8
Metering Mode : Multi-segment
Light Source : Flash
Flash : On, Fired
Focal Length : 13.6 mm
Warning : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes offsets (fix by -306?)
Image Quality : High
Firmware Version : 0.1.0.8
White Balance : Auto
Focus Mode : Manual
AF Area Mode : 5-area
Image Stabilization : On, Mode 2
Macro Mode : Off
Shooting Mode : Program
Audio : No
Data Dump : (Binary data 6152 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Flash Bias : 0
Internal Serial Number : ""ÿÀ..x ..!.
Panasonic Exif Version : 0230
Color Effect : Off
Time Since Power On : 00:01:25.12
Burst Mode : Off
Sequence Number : 0
Contrast Mode : Normal
Noise Reduction : Standard
Self Timer : Off
Rotation : Horizontal (normal)
AF Assist Lamp : Enabled but Not Used
Color Mode : Normal
Optical Zoom Mode : Standard
Conversion Lens : Off
Travel Day : n/a
World Time Location : Home
Program ISO : 200
Advanced Scene Type : 1
Faces Detected : 0
WB Shift AB : 5
WB Shift GM : -1
Maker Note Version : 0120
Scene Mode : Off
WB Red Level : 1741
WB Green Level : 1054
WB Blue Level : 2027
Flash Fired : Yes
Text Stamp : Off
Baby Age :
Flashpix Version : 0100
Color Space : sRGB
Exif Image Width : 3264
Exif Image Height : 2176
Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
Interoperability Version : 0100
Sensing Method : One-chip color area
File Source : Digital Camera
Scene Type : Directly photographed
Custom Rendered : Normal
Exposure Mode : Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio : 0
Focal Length In 35mm Format : 86 mm
Scene Capture Type : Standard
Gain Control : Low gain up
Contrast : Normal
Saturation : Normal
Sharpness : Normal
Compression : JPEG (old-style)
Thumbnail Offset : 7702
Thumbnail Length : 7789
XMP Toolkit : XMP Core 5.1.2
Rating Percent : 0
Caption :
Date Time : 2012:04:09 13:36:59.000
Author :
Notes :
Tagged : False
Categories : <Categories><Category Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
Rating : 0
Label :
Image Width : 3264
Image Height : 2176
Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample : 8
Color Components : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
Advanced Scene Mode : Off
Aperture : 3.6
Blue Balance : 1.92315
Image Size : 3264x2176
Megapixels : 7.1
Red Balance : 1.651803
Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.3
Shutter Speed : 1/50
Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7789 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm
Field Of View : 23.6 deg
Focal Length : 13.6 mm (35 mm equivalent: 86.0 mm)
Hyperfocal Distance : 10.81 m
Light Value : 8.3

Ican try to go on learning how I can use that. If I must extract that information separately all of my files and somehow input them to DigiKam by hand, I say no thanks, it is impossible.
sinc Heikki

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Is it worth trying Exiftool ( http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
) as this programme runs in Windows as well as Linux. It may allow you to
see how all the metadata is stored.

On 9 March 2015 at 14:42, Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi, Thanks to all!
> I suppose, that Francis "solved" my problem. I had used ACDSee from
> version 8 and now I use ACDSeePro 7. Version 10 (if I remember correct)
> ACDSee begin to embed properties into the files itself. I see that like
> this: I burn some foto files to cd rom disk without any database. Only .JPG
> file OR both .RAW files and .XMP files. Then I go and read cd with another
> computer, where I have installed ACDSee program. Then I give command
> Catalog files and ACDSee reads all properties from my files and put them in
> its own database. Also sutch properties, whitch are not in the database
> formerly.
> But I use, ofcourse, hierarcical categories, for instance Rekki (my family
> name)/Heikki (my foname), Marjatta (my wife)... and so on. In windows I
> didn't find any of these categories, no in .jpg files or in .raw and .xmp
> files (Yes, both of yhem are in sama folder with the same filename.) I
> couldn't see top categiry (Rekki) or subcategorie (Rekke/Heikki).
> If the truth is this, as Farcis sade, it is impossible to me to change
> Windos to Linux, and that is very pity.[?]
> Heikki
>
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>> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee metadata
>> (
>> all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all properties into
>> photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
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>> Hi Heikki,
>>
>> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
>> that DigiKam will show them.
>>
>> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>>
>> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside
>> of photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> photos?
>>
>> Johannes
>>
>> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> Windows).
>> > Heikki
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 17:50:03 +0100
>> From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>
>> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> power of open source <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> Message-ID:
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>> I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>>
>> At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in
>> digiKam.
>>
>> Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>>
>> 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
>> 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
>> 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>>
>> Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
>> ask me to import this information from a private database.
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>:
>> > Hi Heikki,
>> >
>> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
>> > that DigiKam will show them.
>> >
>> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >
>> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside
>> of
>> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> photos?
>> >
>> > Johannes
>> >
>> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >>
>> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> >> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> Windows).
>> >> Heikki
>> >>
>> >>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:14:02 +0000
>> From: Francis Corvin <[hidden email]>
>> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> power of open source <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> ACDSee keeps metadata in its proprietary database by default. However,
>> it has a command to embed them in picture files. So overall this should
>> be doable.
>>
>> The only issue is whether some tags are used for the same purpose in
>> DigiKam and ACDSee. In particular, ACDSee uses hierarchical
>> categories---one of the most interesting features about ACDSee. Since no
>> metadata model allows for this as standard, they use a fudge that I
>> would not expect any other software to read. On a large collection, that
>> would be a tedious manual process, unless you were good at scripting a
>> text parser.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Francis
>>
>>
>> On 2015-03-08 16:50, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>> > <pre wrap>
>> > I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>> >
>> > At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in
>> digiKam.
>> >
>> > Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>> >
>> > 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
>> > 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
>> > 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>> >
>> > Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
>> > ask me to import this information from a private database.
>> >
>> > Gilles Caulier
>> >
>> > 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune &[hidden email]>:
>> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>> > Hi Heikki,
>> >
>> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience is
>> > that DigiKam will show them.
>> >
>> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >
>> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside
>> of
>> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> photos?
>> >
>> > Johannes
>> >
>> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>> >
>> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> > Windows).
>> > Heikki
>> >
>> >
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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

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Here is a sample image with Categories added with the trial version of ACDSee Pro 8.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

As i said previously, please share images to investigate and patch
digiKAm code to import categories set by ACDSee. Typically, info are
there :

Categories : <Categories><Category
Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>

Gilles Caulier

2015-03-09 22:41 GMT+01:00 Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Hi Thanks Jim. I tried Exiftool and got following txt file.
>
> ExifTool Version Number : 9.89
> File Name : P1070219.jpg
> Directory :
> e:/6-Kuvat/1-Kamera/1-Lumix/2012/2012-04-09
> File Size : 3.2 MB
> File Modification Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> File Access Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> File Creation Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> File Permissions : rw-rw-rw-
> File Type : JPEG
> MIME Type : image/jpeg
> Exif Byte Order : Little-endian (Intel, II)
> Make : Panasonic
> Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ18
> Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
> X Resolution : 72
> Y Resolution : 72
> Resolution Unit : inches
> Software : Nikon Transfer 1.5 W
> Modify Date : 2012:04:09 17:19:10
> Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered
> Exposure Time : 1/50
> F Number : 3.6
> Exposure Program : Program AE
> ISO : 200
> Exif Version : 0221
> Date/Time Original : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
> Create Date : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
> Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -
> Exposure Compensation : 0
> Max Aperture Value : 2.8
> Metering Mode : Multi-segment
> Light Source : Flash
> Flash : On, Fired
> Focal Length : 13.6 mm
> Warning : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes
> offsets (fix by -306?)
> Image Quality : High
> Firmware Version : 0.1.0.8
> White Balance : Auto
> Focus Mode : Manual
> AF Area Mode : 5-area
> Image Stabilization : On, Mode 2
> Macro Mode : Off
> Shooting Mode : Program
> Audio : No
> Data Dump : (Binary data 6152 bytes, use -b option to
> extract)
> Flash Bias : 0
> Internal Serial Number : ""ÿÀ..x ..!.
> Panasonic Exif Version : 0230
> Color Effect : Off
> Time Since Power On : 00:01:25.12
> Burst Mode : Off
> Sequence Number : 0
> Contrast Mode : Normal
> Noise Reduction : Standard
> Self Timer : Off
> Rotation : Horizontal (normal)
> AF Assist Lamp : Enabled but Not Used
> Color Mode : Normal
> Optical Zoom Mode : Standard
> Conversion Lens : Off
> Travel Day : n/a
> World Time Location : Home
> Program ISO : 200
> Advanced Scene Type : 1
> Faces Detected : 0
> WB Shift AB : 5
> WB Shift GM : -1
> Maker Note Version : 0120
> Scene Mode : Off
> WB Red Level : 1741
> WB Green Level : 1054
> WB Blue Level : 2027
> Flash Fired : Yes
> Text Stamp : Off
> Baby Age :
> Flashpix Version : 0100
> Color Space : sRGB
> Exif Image Width : 3264
> Exif Image Height : 2176
> Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
> Interoperability Version : 0100
> Sensing Method : One-chip color area
> File Source : Digital Camera
> Scene Type : Directly photographed
> Custom Rendered : Normal
> Exposure Mode : Auto
> Digital Zoom Ratio : 0
> Focal Length In 35mm Format : 86 mm
> Scene Capture Type : Standard
> Gain Control : Low gain up
> Contrast : Normal
> Saturation : Normal
> Sharpness : Normal
> Compression : JPEG (old-style)
> Thumbnail Offset : 7702
> Thumbnail Length : 7789
> XMP Toolkit : XMP Core 5.1.2
> Rating Percent : 0
> Caption :
> Date Time : 2012:04:09 13:36:59.000
> Author :
> Notes :
> Tagged : False
> Categories : <Categories><Category
> Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
> Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
> Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
> Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
> Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
> Rating : 0
> Label :
> Image Width : 3264
> Image Height : 2176
> Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
> Bits Per Sample : 8
> Color Components : 3
> Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
> Advanced Scene Mode : Off
> Aperture : 3.6
> Blue Balance : 1.92315
> Image Size : 3264x2176
> Megapixels : 7.1
> Red Balance : 1.651803
> Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.3
> Shutter Speed : 1/50
> Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7789 bytes, use -b option to
> extract)
> Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm
> Field Of View : 23.6 deg
> Focal Length : 13.6 mm (35 mm equivalent: 86.0 mm)
> Hyperfocal Distance : 10.81 m
> Light Value : 8.3
>
>
> Ican try to go on learning how I can use that. If I must extract that
> information separately all of my files and somehow input them to DigiKam by
> hand, I say no thanks, it is impossible.
> sinc Heikki
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 16:09:01 +0000
>> From: Jim MacLeod <[hidden email]>
>> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> power of open source <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 4
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <CAGRV6wzhvG=OSBjed-NyOFcfGFTEXrUKxRUScKZy0wC=[hidden email]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Is it worth trying Exiftool (
>> http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
>> ) as this programme runs in Windows as well as Linux. It may allow you to
>> see how all the metadata is stored.
>>
>> On 9 March 2015 at 14:42, Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, Thanks to all!
>> > I suppose, that Francis "solved" my problem. I had used ACDSee from
>> > version 8 and now I use ACDSeePro 7. Version 10 (if I remember correct)
>> > ACDSee begin to embed properties into the files itself. I see that like
>> > this: I burn some foto files to cd rom disk without any database. Only
>> > .JPG
>> > file OR both .RAW files and .XMP files. Then I go and read cd with
>> > another
>> > computer, where I have installed ACDSee program. Then I give command
>> > Catalog files and ACDSee reads all properties from my files and put them
>> > in
>> > its own database. Also sutch properties, whitch are not in the database
>> > formerly.
>> > But I use, ofcourse, hierarcical categories, for instance Rekki (my
>> > family
>> > name)/Heikki (my foname), Marjatta (my wife)... and so on. In windows I
>> > didn't find any of these categories, no in .jpg files or in .raw and
>> > .xmp
>> > files (Yes, both of yhem are in sama folder with the same filename.) I
>> > couldn't see top categiry (Rekki) or subcategorie (Rekke/Heikki).
>> > If the truth is this, as Farcis sade, it is impossible to me to change
>> > Windos to Linux, and that is very pity.[?]
>> > Heikki
>> >
>> > 2015-03-09 14:00 GMT+02:00 <[hidden email]>:
>> >
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>> >>
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>> >> 2. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Johannes Kapune)
>> >> 3. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Gilles Caulier)
>> >> 4. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Francis Corvin)
>> >>
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>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 15:16:48 +0200
>> >> From: Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]>
>> >> To: [hidden email]
>> >> Subject: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >> <
>> >> [hidden email]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> metadata
>> >> (
>> >> all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all properties
>> >> into
>> >> photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
>> >> Heikki
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>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:55:04 +0100
>> >> From: Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>
>> >> To: [hidden email]
>> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed
>> >>
>> >> Hi Heikki,
>> >>
>> >> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience
>> >> is
>> >> that DigiKam will show them.
>> >>
>> >> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >>
>> >> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside
>> >> of photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> >> photos?
>> >>
>> >> Johannes
>> >>
>> >> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> > photos
>> >> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> >> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> >> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> Windows).
>> >> > Heikki
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
>> >> > [hidden email]
>> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 17:50:03 +0100
>> >> From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>
>> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> >> power of open source <[hidden email]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >> <
>> >> [hidden email]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>> >>
>> >> At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in
>> >> digiKam.
>> >>
>> >> Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>> >>
>> >> 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
>> >> 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
>> >> 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>> >>
>> >> Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
>> >> ask me to import this information from a private database.
>> >>
>> >> Gilles Caulier
>> >>
>> >> 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>:
>> >> > Hi Heikki,
>> >> >
>> >> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience
>> >> > is
>> >> > that DigiKam will show them.
>> >> >
>> >> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >> >
>> >> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
>> >> > outside
>> >> of
>> >> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> >> photos?
>> >> >
>> >> > Johannes
>> >> >
>> >> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> >> photos
>> >> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> >> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> >> >> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> >> Windows).
>> >> >> Heikki
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> Digikam-users mailing list
>> >> >> [hidden email]
>> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >> >>
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> > [hidden email]
>> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 4
>> >> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:14:02 +0000
>> >> From: Francis Corvin <[hidden email]>
>> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> >> power of open source <[hidden email]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> ACDSee keeps metadata in its proprietary database by default. However,
>> >> it has a command to embed them in picture files. So overall this should
>> >> be doable.
>> >>
>> >> The only issue is whether some tags are used for the same purpose in
>> >> DigiKam and ACDSee. In particular, ACDSee uses hierarchical
>> >> categories---one of the most interesting features about ACDSee. Since
>> >> no
>> >> metadata model allows for this as standard, they use a fudge that I
>> >> would not expect any other software to read. On a large collection,
>> >> that
>> >> would be a tedious manual process, unless you were good at scripting a
>> >> text parser.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Francis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2015-03-08 16:50, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>> >> > <pre wrap>
>> >> > I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>> >> >
>> >> > At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported
>> >> > in
>> >> digiKam.
>> >> >
>> >> > Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>> >> >
>> >> > 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
>> >> > 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
>> >> > 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>> >> >
>> >> > Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do
>> >> > not
>> >> > ask me to import this information from a private database.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gilles Caulier
>> >> >
>> >> > 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune &[hidden email]>:
>> >> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>> >> > Hi Heikki,
>> >> >
>> >> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience
>> >> > is
>> >> > that DigiKam will show them.
>> >> >
>> >> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >> >
>> >> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
>> >> > outside
>> >> of
>> >> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> >> photos?
>> >> >
>> >> > Johannes
>> >> >
>> >> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>> >> >
>> >> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> > photos
>> >> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> >> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> >> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> > Windows).
>> >> > Heikki
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
>> >> > [hidden email]
>> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >> >
>> >> > </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
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>> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

In reply to this post by Heikki Rekki

Oh, a few months ago I sent in a patch to exiv2 enabling it to write to Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject. That should be exiv2 0.25, due out any day now!

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Alan Pater <[hidden email]> wrote:

Here is a sample image with Categories added with the trial version of ACDSee Pro 8.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:
As i said previously, please share images to investigate and patch
digiKAm code to import categories set by ACDSee. Typically, info are
there :

Categories : <Categories><Category
Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>

Gilles Caulier

2015-03-09 22:41 GMT+01:00 Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Hi Thanks Jim. I tried Exiftool and got following txt file.
>
> ExifTool Version Number : 9.89
> File Name : P1070219.jpg
> Directory :
> e:/6-Kuvat/1-Kamera/1-Lumix/2012/2012-04-09
> File Size : 3.2 MB
> File Modification Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> File Access Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> File Creation Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> File Permissions : rw-rw-rw-
> File Type : JPEG
> MIME Type : image/jpeg
> Exif Byte Order : Little-endian (Intel, II)
> Make : Panasonic
> Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ18
> Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
> X Resolution : 72
> Y Resolution : 72
> Resolution Unit : inches
> Software : Nikon Transfer 1.5 W
> Modify Date : 2012:04:09 17:19:10
> Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered
> Exposure Time : 1/50
> F Number : 3.6
> Exposure Program : Program AE
> ISO : 200
> Exif Version : 0221
> Date/Time Original : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
> Create Date : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
> Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -
> Exposure Compensation : 0
> Max Aperture Value : 2.8
> Metering Mode : Multi-segment
> Light Source : Flash
> Flash : On, Fired
> Focal Length : 13.6 mm
> Warning : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes
> offsets (fix by -306?)
> Image Quality : High
> Firmware Version : 0.1.0.8
> White Balance : Auto
> Focus Mode : Manual
> AF Area Mode : 5-area
> Image Stabilization : On, Mode 2
> Macro Mode : Off
> Shooting Mode : Program
> Audio : No
> Data Dump : (Binary data 6152 bytes, use -b option to
> extract)
> Flash Bias : 0
> Internal Serial Number : ""ÿÀ..x ..!.
> Panasonic Exif Version : 0230
> Color Effect : Off
> Time Since Power On : 00:01:25.12
> Burst Mode : Off
> Sequence Number : 0
> Contrast Mode : Normal
> Noise Reduction : Standard
> Self Timer : Off
> Rotation : Horizontal (normal)
> AF Assist Lamp : Enabled but Not Used
> Color Mode : Normal
> Optical Zoom Mode : Standard
> Conversion Lens : Off
> Travel Day : n/a
> World Time Location : Home
> Program ISO : 200
> Advanced Scene Type : 1
> Faces Detected : 0
> WB Shift AB : 5
> WB Shift GM : -1
> Maker Note Version : 0120
> Scene Mode : Off
> WB Red Level : 1741
> WB Green Level : 1054
> WB Blue Level : 2027
> Flash Fired : Yes
> Text Stamp : Off
> Baby Age :
> Flashpix Version : 0100
> Color Space : sRGB
> Exif Image Width : 3264
> Exif Image Height : 2176
> Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
> Interoperability Version : 0100
> Sensing Method : One-chip color area
> File Source : Digital Camera
> Scene Type : Directly photographed
> Custom Rendered : Normal
> Exposure Mode : Auto
> Digital Zoom Ratio : 0
> Focal Length In 35mm Format : 86 mm
> Scene Capture Type : Standard
> Gain Control : Low gain up
> Contrast : Normal
> Saturation : Normal
> Sharpness : Normal
> Compression : JPEG (old-style)
> Thumbnail Offset : 7702
> Thumbnail Length : 7789
> XMP Toolkit : XMP Core 5.1.2
> Rating Percent : 0
> Caption :
> Date Time : 2012:04:09 13:36:59.000
> Author :
> Notes :
> Tagged : False
> Categories : <Categories><Category
> Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
> Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
> Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
> Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
> Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
> Rating : 0
> Label :
> Image Width : 3264
> Image Height : 2176
> Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
> Bits Per Sample : 8
> Color Components : 3
> Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
> Advanced Scene Mode : Off
> Aperture : 3.6
> Blue Balance : 1.92315
> Image Size : 3264x2176
> Megapixels : 7.1
> Red Balance : 1.651803
> Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.3
> Shutter Speed : 1/50
> Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7789 bytes, use -b option to
> extract)
> Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm
> Field Of View : 23.6 deg
> Focal Length : 13.6 mm (35 mm equivalent: 86.0 mm)
> Hyperfocal Distance : 10.81 m
> Light Value : 8.3
>
>
> Ican try to go on learning how I can use that. If I must extract that
> information separately all of my files and somehow input them to DigiKam by
> hand, I say no thanks, it is impossible.
> sinc Heikki
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 16:09:01 +0000
>> From: Jim MacLeod <[hidden email]>
>> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> power of open source <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 4
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <CAGRV6wzhvG=OSBjed-NyOFcfGFTEXrUKxRUScKZy0wC=[hidden email]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Is it worth trying Exiftool (
>> http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
>> ) as this programme runs in Windows as well as Linux. It may allow you to
>> see how all the metadata is stored.
>>
>> On 9 March 2015 at 14:42, Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, Thanks to all!
>> > I suppose, that Francis "solved" my problem. I had used ACDSee from
>> > version 8 and now I use ACDSeePro 7. Version 10 (if I remember correct)
>> > ACDSee begin to embed properties into the files itself. I see that like
>> > this: I burn some foto files to cd rom disk without any database. Only
>> > .JPG
>> > file OR both .RAW files and .XMP files. Then I go and read cd with
>> > another
>> > computer, where I have installed ACDSee program. Then I give command
>> > Catalog files and ACDSee reads all properties from my files and put them
>> > in
>> > its own database. Also sutch properties, whitch are not in the database
>> > formerly.
>> > But I use, ofcourse, hierarcical categories, for instance Rekki (my
>> > family
>> > name)/Heikki (my foname), Marjatta (my wife)... and so on. In windows I
>> > didn't find any of these categories, no in .jpg files or in .raw and
>> > .xmp
>> > files (Yes, both of yhem are in sama folder with the same filename.) I
>> > couldn't see top categiry (Rekki) or subcategorie (Rekke/Heikki).
>> > If the truth is this, as Farcis sade, it is impossible to me to change
>> > Windos to Linux, and that is very pity.[?]
>> > Heikki
>> >
>> > 2015-03-09 14:00 GMT+02:00 <[hidden email]>:
>> >
>> >> Send Digikam-users mailing list submissions to
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>> >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 15:16:48 +0200
>> >> From: Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]>
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>> >> Subject: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
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>> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on photos
>> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> metadata
>> >> (
>> >> all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all properties
>> >> into
>> >> photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
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>> >> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:55:04 +0100
>> >> From: Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>
>> >> To: [hidden email]
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>> >> Hi Heikki,
>> >>
>> >> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience
>> >> is
>> >> that DigiKam will show them.
>> >>
>> >> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >>
>> >> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database outside
>> >> of photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> >> photos?
>> >>
>> >> Johannes
>> >>
>> >> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> > photos
>> >> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> >> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> >> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> Windows).
>> >> > Heikki
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 17:50:03 +0100
>> >> From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>
>> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> >> power of open source <[hidden email]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >> <
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>> >>
>> >> I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>> >>
>> >> At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported in
>> >> digiKam.
>> >>
>> >> Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>> >>
>> >> 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
>> >> 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
>> >> 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>> >>
>> >> Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do not
>> >> ask me to import this information from a private database.
>> >>
>> >> Gilles Caulier
>> >>
>> >> 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <[hidden email]>:
>> >> > Hi Heikki,
>> >> >
>> >> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience
>> >> > is
>> >> > that DigiKam will show them.
>> >> >
>> >> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >> >
>> >> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
>> >> > outside
>> >> of
>> >> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> >> photos?
>> >> >
>> >> > Johannes
>> >> >
>> >> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> >> photos
>> >> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> >> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> >> >> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> >> Windows).
>> >> >> Heikki
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> Message: 4
>> >> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:14:02 +0000
>> >> From: Francis Corvin <[hidden email]>
>> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> >> power of open source <[hidden email]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> ACDSee keeps metadata in its proprietary database by default. However,
>> >> it has a command to embed them in picture files. So overall this should
>> >> be doable.
>> >>
>> >> The only issue is whether some tags are used for the same purpose in
>> >> DigiKam and ACDSee. In particular, ACDSee uses hierarchical
>> >> categories---one of the most interesting features about ACDSee. Since
>> >> no
>> >> metadata model allows for this as standard, they use a fudge that I
>> >> would not expect any other software to read. On a large collection,
>> >> that
>> >> would be a tedious manual process, unless you were good at scripting a
>> >> text parser.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Francis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2015-03-08 16:50, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>> >> > <pre wrap>
>> >> > I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>> >> >
>> >> > At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported
>> >> > in
>> >> digiKam.
>> >> >
>> >> > Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>> >> >
>> >> > 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
>> >> > 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
>> >> > 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>> >> >
>> >> > Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do
>> >> > not
>> >> > ask me to import this information from a private database.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gilles Caulier
>> >> >
>> >> > 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune &[hidden email]>:
>> >> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>> >> > Hi Heikki,
>> >> >
>> >> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience
>> >> > is
>> >> > that DigiKam will show them.
>> >> >
>> >> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >> >
>> >> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
>> >> > outside
>> >> of
>> >> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> >> photos?
>> >> >
>> >> > Johannes
>> >> >
>> >> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>> >> >
>> >> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> > photos
>> >> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
>> >> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
>> >> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> > Windows).
>> >> > Heikki
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
>> >> > [hidden email]
>> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
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>> >> > </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

In reply to this post by Heikki Rekki

So, a script guru should be able to convert those nested xml-like categories to lr.heirarchicalsubject format, no? I wish I was that guru!

Anyway, I created a more complex example in a trial version of ACDSee:

<Categories><Category Assigned="1">1 Level</Category><Category Assigned="1">2 Level<Category Assigned="1">2.2 Level</Category></Category><Category Assigned="1">3 Level<Category Assigned="1">3.2 Level<Category Assigned="1">3.3 Level</Category></Category></Category><Category Assigned="1">4 Level<Category Assigned="1">4.2 Level<Category Assigned="1">4.3 Level<Category Assigned="1">4.4 Level</Category></Category></Category></Category><Category Assigned="1">5 Level<Category Assigned="1">5.2 Level<Category Assigned="1">5.3 Level<Category Assigned="1">5.4 Level<Category Assigned="1">5.5 Level</Category></Category></Category></Category></Category><Category Assigned="1">6 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.2 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.3 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.4 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.5 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.6 Level</Category></Category></Category></Category></Category></Category></Categories>

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi again!
Here is the foto, from whitch I readed metadata with exiftool (listed below). I resized this so, that it is not so big here. And I categorized the foto again (old metadata cleared with my resampling)
How this works?
I suppose that I have also some problem in my Windows, so I must resolve that next.
Heikki

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:03:47 -0500
From: Alan Pater <[hidden email]>
To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
power of open source <[hidden email]>, Gilles Caulier
<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Here is a sample image with Categories added with the trial version of
ACDSee Pro 8.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> As i said previously, please share images to investigate and patch
> digiKAm code to import categories set by ACDSee. Typically, info are
> there :
>
> Categories : <Categories><Category
> Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
> Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
> Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
> Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
> Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2015-03-09 22:41 GMT+01:00 Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]>:
> >
> >> Hi Thanks Jim. I tried Exiftool and got following txt file.
> >
> > ExifTool Version Number : 9.89
> > File Name : P1070219.jpg
> > Directory :
> > e:/6-Kuvat/1-Kamera/1-Lumix/2012/2012-04-09
> > File Size : 3.2 MB
> > File Modification Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> > File Access Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> > File Creation Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> > File Permissions : rw-rw-rw-
> > File Type : JPEG
> > MIME Type : image/jpeg
> > Exif Byte Order : Little-endian (Intel, II)
> > Make : Panasonic
> > Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ18
> > Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
> > X Resolution : 72
> > Y Resolution : 72
> > Resolution Unit : inches
> > Software : Nikon Transfer 1.5 W
> > Modify Date : 2012:04:09 17:19:10
> > Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered
> > Exposure Time : 1/50
> > F Number : 3.6
> > Exposure Program : Program AE
> > ISO : 200
> > Exif Version : 0221
> > Date/Time Original : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
> > Create Date : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
> > Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -
> > Exposure Compensation : 0
> > Max Aperture Value : 2.8
> > Metering Mode : Multi-segment
> > Light Source : Flash
> > Flash : On, Fired
> > Focal Length : 13.6 mm
> > Warning : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes
> > offsets (fix by -306?)
> > Image Quality : High
> > Firmware Version : 0.1.0.8
> > White Balance : Auto
> > Focus Mode : Manual
> > AF Area Mode : 5-area
> > Image Stabilization : On, Mode 2
> > Macro Mode : Off
> > Shooting Mode : Program
> > Audio : No
> > Data Dump : (Binary data 6152 bytes, use -b option
> to
> > extract)
> > Flash Bias : 0
> > Internal Serial Number : ""ÿÀ..x ..!.
> > Panasonic Exif Version : 0230
> > Color Effect : Off
> > Time Since Power On : 00:01:25.12
> > Burst Mode : Off
> > Sequence Number : 0
> > Contrast Mode : Normal
> > Noise Reduction : Standard
> > Self Timer : Off
> > Rotation : Horizontal (normal)
> > AF Assist Lamp : Enabled but Not Used
> > Color Mode : Normal
> > Optical Zoom Mode : Standard
> > Conversion Lens : Off
> > Travel Day : n/a
> > World Time Location : Home
> > Program ISO : 200
> > Advanced Scene Type : 1
> > Faces Detected : 0
> > WB Shift AB : 5
> > WB Shift GM : -1
> > Maker Note Version : 0120
> > Scene Mode : Off
> > WB Red Level : 1741
> > WB Green Level : 1054
> > WB Blue Level : 2027
> > Flash Fired : Yes
> > Text Stamp : Off
> > Baby Age :
> > Flashpix Version : 0100
> > Color Space : sRGB
> > Exif Image Width : 3264
> > Exif Image Height : 2176
> > Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
> > Interoperability Version : 0100
> > Sensing Method : One-chip color area
> > File Source : Digital Camera
> > Scene Type : Directly photographed
> > Custom Rendered : Normal
> > Exposure Mode : Auto
> > Digital Zoom Ratio : 0
> > Focal Length In 35mm Format : 86 mm
> > Scene Capture Type : Standard
> > Gain Control : Low gain up
> > Contrast : Normal
> > Saturation : Normal
> > Sharpness : Normal
> > Compression : JPEG (old-style)
> > Thumbnail Offset : 7702
> > Thumbnail Length : 7789
> > XMP Toolkit : XMP Core 5.1.2
> > Rating Percent : 0
> > Caption :
> > Date Time : 2012:04:09 13:36:59.000
> > Author :
> > Notes :
> > Tagged : False
> > Categories : <Categories><Category
> > Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
> > Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
> > Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
> > Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
> > Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
> > Rating : 0
> > Label :
> > Image Width : 3264
> > Image Height : 2176
> > Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
> > Bits Per Sample : 8
> > Color Components : 3
> > Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
> > Advanced Scene Mode : Off
> > Aperture : 3.6
> > Blue Balance : 1.92315
> > Image Size : 3264x2176
> > Megapixels : 7.1
> > Red Balance : 1.651803
> > Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.3
> > Shutter Speed : 1/50
> > Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7789 bytes, use -b option
> to
> > extract)
> > Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm
> > Field Of View : 23.6 deg
> > Focal Length : 13.6 mm (35 mm equivalent: 86.0 mm)
> > Hyperfocal Distance : 10.81 m
> > Light Value : 8.3
> >
> >
> > Ican try to go on learning how I can use that. If I must extract that
> > information separately all of my files and somehow input them to DigiKam
> by
> > hand, I say no thanks, it is impossible.
> > sinc Heikki

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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

Alan,

It looks like wherever you have ticked a child category, you also chose to tick the parent category. There are cases where you do not necessarily want to do this. For instance you could tick box 5.3 but not box 5. In this case, the metadata would read:
<Category assigned="0">5 level<Category Assigned="1">5.3 Level</Category></Category>
That is one of the small complications facing those who would like to write a conversion script. Like you say, I wish I could do it. Conceptually, it is not too difficult. Practically, that's another matter...

Best regards,

Francis

On 2015-03-12 23:52, Alan Pater wrote:

> <div dir="ltr"><div><div>So, a script guru should be able to convert those nested xml-like categories to lr.heirarchicalsubject format, no? I wish I was that guru! </div>Anyway, I created a more complex example in a trial version of ACDSee: <Categories><Category Assigned="1">1 Level</Category><Category Assigned="1">2 Level<Category Assigned="1">2.2 Level</Category></Category><Category Assigned="1">3 Level<Category Assigned="1">3.2 Level<Category Assigned="1">3.3 Level</Category></Category></Category><Category Assigned="1">4 Level<Category Assigned="1">4.2 Level<Category Assigned="1">4.3 Level<Category Assigned="1">4.4 Level</Category></Category></Category></Category><Category Assigned="1">5 Level<Category Assigned="1">5.2 Level<Category Assigned="1">5.3 Level<Category Assigned="1">5.4 Level<Category Assigned="1">5.5 Level</Category></Category></Category></Category></Category><Category Assigned="1">6 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.2 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.3 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.4 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.5 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.6 Level</Category></Category></Category></Category></Category></Category></Categories> </div>If I am not mistaken, that would need to be converted to lr.heirarchicalsubject format: 1 Level, 2 Level|2.2 Level, 3 Level|3.2 Level|3.3 Level, 4 Level|4.2 Level|4.3 Level|4.4 Level, 5 Level|5.2 Level|5.3 Level|5.4 Level|5.5 Level, 6 Level|6.2 Level|6.3 Level|6.4 Level|6.5 Level|6.6 Level <div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Heikki Rekki <<a href=[hidden email] target="_blank">[hidden email]</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:large">Hi again! </div><div style="font-size:large">Here is the foto, from whitch I readed metadata with exiftool (listed below). I resized this so, that it is not so big here. And I categorized the foto again (old metadata cleared with my resampling) </div><div style="font-size:large">How this works? </div><div style="font-size:large">I suppose that I have also some problem in my Windows, so I must resolve that next. </div><div style="font-size:large">Heikki </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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> <<a href=[hidden email] target="_blank">[hidden email]</a>> 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 
> 
> Here is a sample image with Categories added with the trial version of 
> ACDSee Pro 8. 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Gilles Caulier <<a href=[hidden email] target="_blank">[hidden email]</a>> 
> wrote: 
> 
> > As i said previously, please share images to investigate and patch 
> > digiKAm code to import categories set by ACDSee. Typically, info are 
> > there : 
> > 
> > Categories : <Categories><Category 
> > Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category 
> > Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category 
> > Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category 
> > Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category 
> > Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories> 
> > 
> > Gilles Caulier 
> > 
> > 2015-03-09 22:41 GMT+01:00 Heikki Rekki <<a href=[hidden email] target="_blank">[hidden email]</a>>: 
> > > 
> > >> Hi Thanks Jim. I tried Exiftool and got following txt file. 
> > > 
> > > ExifTool Version Number : 9.89 
> > > File Name : P1070219.jpg 
> > > Directory : 
> > > e:/6-Kuvat/1-Kamera/1-Lumix/2012/2012-04-09 
> > > File Size : 3.2 MB 
> > > File Modification Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00 
> > > File Access Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00 
> > > File Creation Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00 
> > > File Permissions : rw-rw-rw- 
> > > File Type : JPEG 
> > > MIME Type : image/jpeg 
> > > Exif Byte Order : Little-endian (Intel, II) 
> > > Make : Panasonic 
> > > Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ18 
> > > Orientation : Horizontal (normal) 
> > > X Resolution : 72 
> > > Y Resolution : 72 
> > > Resolution Unit : inches 
> > > Software : Nikon Transfer 1.5 W 
> > > Modify Date : 2012:04:09 17:19:10 
> > > Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered 
> > > Exposure Time : 1/50 
> > > F Number : 3.6 
> > > Exposure Program : Program AE 
> > > ISO : 200 
> > > Exif Version : 0221 
> > > Date/Time Original : 2012:04:09 13:36:59 
> > > Create Date : 2012:04:09 13:36:59 
> > > Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, - 
> > > Exposure Compensation : 0 
> > > Max Aperture Value : 2.8 
> > > Metering Mode : Multi-segment 
> > > Light Source : Flash 
> > > Flash : On, Fired 
> > > Focal Length : 13.6 mm 
> > > Warning : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes 
> > > offsets (fix by -306?) 
> > > Image Quality : High 
> > > Firmware Version : 0.1.0.8 
> > > White Balance : Auto 
> > > Focus Mode : Manual 
> > > AF Area Mode : 5-area 
> > > Image Stabilization : On, Mode 2 
> > > Macro Mode : Off 
> > > Shooting Mode : Program 
> > > Audio : No 
> > > Data Dump : (Binary data 6152 bytes, use -b option 
> > to 
> > > extract) 
> > > Flash Bias : 0 
> > > Internal Serial Number : ""ÿÀ..x ..!. 
> > > Panasonic Exif Version : 0230 
> > > Color Effect : Off 
> > > Time Since Power On : 00:01:25.12 
> > > Burst Mode : Off 
> > > Sequence Number : 0 
> > > Contrast Mode : Normal 
> > > Noise Reduction : Standard 
> > > Self Timer : Off 
> > > Rotation : Horizontal (normal) 
> > > AF Assist Lamp : Enabled but Not Used 
> > > Color Mode : Normal 
> > > Optical Zoom Mode : Standard 
> > > Conversion Lens : Off 
> > > Travel Day : n/a 
> > > World Time Location : Home 
> > > Program ISO : 200 
> > > Advanced Scene Type : 1 
> > > Faces Detected : 0 
> > > WB Shift AB : 5 
> > > WB Shift GM : -1 
> > > Maker Note Version : 0120 
> > > Scene Mode : Off 
> > > WB Red Level : 1741 
> > > WB Green Level : 1054 
> > > WB Blue Level : 2027 
> > > Flash Fired : Yes 
> > > Text Stamp : Off 
> > > Baby Age : 
> > > Flashpix Version : 0100 
> > > Color Space : sRGB 
> > > Exif Image Width : 3264 
> > > Exif Image Height : 2176 
> > > Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB) 
> > > Interoperability Version : 0100 
> > > Sensing Method : One-chip color area 
> > > File Source : Digital Camera 
> > > Scene Type : Directly photographed 
> > > Custom Rendered : Normal 
> > > Exposure Mode : Auto 
> > > Digital Zoom Ratio : 0 
> > > Focal Length In 35mm Format : 86 mm 
> > > Scene Capture Type : Standard 
> > > Gain Control : Low gain up 
> > > Contrast : Normal 
> > > Saturation : Normal 
> > > Sharpness : Normal 
> > > Compression : JPEG (old-style) 
> > > Thumbnail Offset : 7702 
> > > Thumbnail Length : 7789 
> > > XMP Toolkit : XMP Core 5.1.2 
> > > Rating Percent : 0 
> > > Caption : 
> > > Date Time : 2012:04:09 13:36:59.000 
> > > Author : 
> > > Notes : 
> > > Tagged : False 
> > > Categories : <Categories><Category 
> > > Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category 
> > > Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category 
> > > Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category 
> > > Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category 
> > > Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories> 
> > > Rating : 0 
> > > Label : 
> > > Image Width : 3264 
> > > Image Height : 2176 
> > > Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding 
> > > Bits Per Sample : 8 
> > > Color Components : 3 
> > > Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1) 
> > > Advanced Scene Mode : Off 
> > > Aperture : 3.6 
> > > Blue Balance : 1.92315 
> > > Image Size : 3264x2176 
> > > Megapixels : 7.1 
> > > Red Balance : 1.651803 
> > > Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.3 
> > > Shutter Speed : 1/50 
> > > Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7789 bytes, use -b option 
> > to 
> > > extract) 
> > > Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm 
> > > Field Of View : 23.6 deg 
> > > Focal Length : 13.6 mm (35 mm equivalent: 86.0 mm) 
> > > Hyperfocal Distance : 10.81 m 
> > > Light Value : 8.3 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ican try to go on learning how I can use that. If I must extract that 
> > > information separately all of my files and somehow input them to DigiKam 
> > by 
> > > hand, I say no thanks, it is impossible. 
> > > sinc Heikki 
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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

In reply to this post by Heikki Rekki

Francis, our friend over at exiv2 -- Robin Mills -- has sent me a Perl
script that outputs the desired result, both with my example and
yours. For your example it returns: 5 level|5.3 Level. So at least it
works on individual samples.

It is possible that in the ACDSee database, there was a "5.2 Level"
element, but if that is not in the metadata written to the image, we
have no way of knowing what it was or of it's existence. The same
issue arises with images categorized in Lightroom and it's
hierarchical tags.

However, rebuilding the complete structure of an original ACDSee or
Lightroom hierarchical database out of a bunch of individual images a
much bigger task. I wonder if those programs are capable of that? And
what would be the structure of the internal database?

In any case, converting from xmp.acdsee.categories to
xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject or xmp.mwg-kw.keywords is very doable.

Alan

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Francis Corvin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> It looks like wherever you have ticked a child category, you also chose to
> tick the parent category. There are cases where you do not necessarily want
> to do this. For instance you could tick box 5.3 but not box 5. In this case,
> the metadata would read:
> <Category assigned="0">5 level<Category Assigned="1">5.3
> Level</Category></Category>
> That is one of the small complications facing those who would like to write
> a conversion script. Like you say, I wish I could do it. Conceptually, it is
> not too difficult. Practically, that's another matter...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Francis
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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

Hi again all

I've gone ahead and documented how various applications implement
hierarchical keywords/tags. In each application I created the same 6
level hierarchy and tagged a sample image with level 2 and level 5. I
then used exiv2 to read the resulting metadata. These are just the
main hierarchical fields written, flat tags are also in
xmp.dc.subject, for example.

6 Level
(X) 6.2 Level
6.3 Level
6.4 Level
(X) 6.5 Level
6.6 Level

* Digikam 4.8
Xmp.digiKam.TagsList XmpSeq 2 6 Level/6.2 Level/6.3 Level/6.4
Level/6.5 Level, 6 Level/6.2 Level

* Adobe Lightroom 4.4
Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject XmpBag 2 6 Level|6.2 Level, 6 Level|6.2
Level|6.3 Level|6.4 Level|6.5 Level

* ACDSee 8 Pro
Xmp.acdsee.categories XmpText 282 <Categories><Category
Assigned="0">6 Level<Category Assigned="1">6.2 Level<Category
Assigned="0">6.3 Level<Category Assigned="0">6.4 Level<Category
Assigned="1">6.5
Level</Category></Category></Category></Category></Category></Categories>

** Metadata Working Group Keywords
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords
XmpText 0 type="Struct"
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords/mwg-kw:Hierarchy
XmpText 0 type="Bag"
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords/mwg-kw:Hierarchy[1]
XmpText 0 type="Struct"
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords/mwg-kw:Hierarchy[1]/mwg-kw:Keyword
XmpText 3 6 Level
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords/mwg-kw:Hierarchy[1]/mwg-kw:Applied
Boolean 1 0
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords/mwg-kw:Hierarchy[1]/mwg-kw:Children
XmpText 0 type="Bag"
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords/mwg-kw:Hierarchy[1]/mwg-kw:Children[1]
XmpText 0 type="Struct"
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords/mwg-kw:Hierarchy[1]/mwg-kw:Children[1]/mwg-kw:Keyword
XmpText 7 6.2 Level
Xmp.mwg-kw.Keywords/mwg-kw:Hierarchy[1]/mwg-kw:Children[1]/mwg-kw:Applied
Boolean 1 1
etc
etc
etc, nested deeper and deeper ...

I am still working on the mwg-kw structure. It is much more complex
then any of the others, which explains why it is so little used! It
was written using my patch to exiv2 http://dev.exiv2.org/issues/1040

Alan
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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

Meanwhile Robin Mills of exiv2 fame wrote up a Perl script that forms
a basis to convert acdsee.categories to lr.hierachicalsubject. It can
be found on the exiv2 forum, where I asked about this problem. Now
it's up to someone with more programming skills then me to complete!

http://dev.exiv2.org/boards/3/topics/1912?r=1923#message-1923
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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

Alan,

We need to investigate.

Please open a file in bugzilla explaining well the problem. Link to
test images. This is important.

This will be analyzed by a student while this GSoC 2015 project :

https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2015/Ideas#Project:_Advanced_Metadata_HUB

I think problem is not located in Exiv2. We can solve it by digiKam
metadata import, as we already do with other kind of metadata written
by other proprietary software (as Nikon NX, Aperture, LR, etc...)

Thanks in advance

Gilles Caulier

2015-03-13 17:59 GMT+01:00 Alan Pater <[hidden email]>:

> Meanwhile Robin Mills of exiv2 fame wrote up a Perl script that forms
> a basis to convert acdsee.categories to lr.hierachicalsubject. It can
> be found on the exiv2 forum, where I asked about this problem. Now
> it's up to someone with more programming skills then me to complete!
>
> http://dev.exiv2.org/boards/3/topics/1912?r=1923#message-1923
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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

Heikki, you will be happy to hear that the digikam team has almost
completed support for ACDSee metadata. Could you try it with the test
image here: https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=92227

The full report on how we got there can be seen here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345220

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Re: DigiKam and ACDSee

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:19 AM, Heikki Rekki <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wow! Thank You all! You have done fine job!
> The categories of the test image are all fine in my system (Win7 64b,
> ACDSeePro7 64b).
> As far as I understand (and that is very little) the categories of my sample
> are organised fine. I, unfortunate, need very simple guide how to do when I
> want to change my foto collection to Digikam. So I am still waiteng and
> hoping...
> Heikki

Great! Thank you for confirming that it is working. This feature
should be included in digikam 4.10.0, due to be released next week.

>
> 2015-04-28 0:33 GMT+03:00 Alan Pater <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Heikki, you will be happy to hear that the digikam team has almost
>> completed support for ACDSee metadata. Could you try it with the test
>> image here: https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=92227
>>
>> The full report on how we got there can be seen here:
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345220
>>
>> Alan
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