Deleting in Digikam

[Andrew "Ampers" Taylor]

I have been having a problem understanding one process of Digikam.

I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this is one of three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump windows totally. Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will sort out Lightroom.

However I have a large collection of photographs with far too many duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so unclear (to me) how to do this.

I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.

I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders showing.

I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I have searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.

I am using version

digiKam
Version 1.0.0-beta5

I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using Ubuntu Karmic 9.10.

And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't see my 70th birthday again!

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

My response : do not use an old beta version in production. Use last
1.0.0 final out for Christmas.

More than 200 bugs have been fixed between beta5 and final. I cannot
be more clear.

I have already said in this room that Ubuntu make a mistake to place a
beta release in production WITHOUT to update packages step by step
until final release. Mandriva do it very well. Ubuntu team is not
serious for me. Ignoring software cycle release, especially in open
source is a shame.

Yes, my words are a little bit hard... But you must understand me :
why trying to fix and fix and fix bugs is the more used linux
distribution do not follow the game.

Anyway, happy new year... (:=))))

Gilles Caulier

2010/1/2 Andrew Ampers Taylor <[hidden email]>:

> I have been having a problem understanding one process of Digikam.
>
> I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this is one of
> three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump windows totally.
> Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will sort out
> Lightroom.
>
> However I have a large collection of photographs with far too many
> duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so unclear (to
> me) how to do this.
>
> I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.
>
> I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders showing.
>
> I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I have
> searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.
>
> I am using version
>
> digiKam
> Version 1.0.0-beta5
>
> I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using Ubuntu Karmic
> 9.10.
>
> And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't see my 70th
> birthday again!
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>
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[pshute]

Similar problem with KDE on Windows (that the beta is included instead of final release). I didn't realise those teams were responsible for which version to include.

I agree it's a shame. How many people must try this program and give up because there are bugs in what should be a stable release?

Are they doing the same thing with other programs?


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From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>
To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sat Jan 02 21:01:55 2010
Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Deleting in Digikam

My response : do not use an old beta version in production. Use last
1.0.0 final out for Christmas.

More than 200 bugs have been fixed between beta5 and final. I cannot
be more clear.

I have already said in this room that Ubuntu make a mistake to place a
beta release in production WITHOUT to update packages step by step
until final release. Mandriva do it very well. Ubuntu team is not
serious for me. Ignoring software cycle release, especially in open
source is a shame.

Yes, my words are a little bit hard... But you must understand me :
why trying to fix and fix and fix bugs is the more used linux
distribution do not follow the game.

Anyway, happy new year... (:=))))

Gilles Caulier

2010/1/2 Andrew Ampers Taylor <[hidden email]>:

> I have been having a problem understanding one process of Digikam.
>
> I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this is one of
> three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump windows totally.
> Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will sort out
> Lightroom.
>
> However I have a large collection of photographs with far too many
> duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so unclear (to
> me) how to do this.
>
> I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.
>
> I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders showing.
>
> I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I have
> searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.
>
> I am using version
>
> digiKam
> Version 1.0.0-beta5
>
> I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using Ubuntu Karmic
> 9.10.
>
> And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't see my 70th
> birthday again!
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>
>
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> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2010/1/2 Peter Shute <[hidden email]>:
> Similar problem with KDE on Windows (that the beta is included instead of final release). I didn't realise those teams were responsible for which version to include.

KDE-windows prject is in charge of KDE windows packaging

digiKam team only release source tarballs, no binary version.

>
> I agree it's a shame. How many people must try this program and give up because there are bugs in what should be a stable release?

Sure. But KDE-windows team is limited in contributors. this is not the
same for Ubuntu, which is a compagny...

>
> Are they doing the same thing with other programs?

yes. Look Amarok for ex... But problem is huge. Too many
distributions, to many formats, to many tests to do for each packages.

This is the lead problem of opensource : dispersion.

Gilles
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[S. Burmeister]

Am Samstag, 2. Januar 2010 11:22:39 schrieb Peter Shute:
> Similar problem with KDE on Windows (that the beta is included instead of
>  final release). I didn't realise those teams were responsible for which
>  version to include.
>
> I agree it's a shame. How many people must try this program and give up
>  because there are bugs in what should be a stable release?
>
> Are they doing the same thing with other programs?

That's what makes your distro more pleasing than others, i.e. providing recent
KDE packages. If your distro does not fit your needs you can change.

For Windows, ask the KDE windows team how you can help to improve the Windows
support. I'm sure they can use some help and will help you to learn e.g. how
to compile digikam on Windows. After all the main audience for KDE is on Linux
so some commitment and initiative of those using Windows is needed. Those that
do not run Windows cannot help.

Sven
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[Andrew "Ampers" Taylor]

Yes, this is very frustrating. I have found a way, but it is going to take about fifteen hours to do it.

Gerry, please take note, this makes Ubuntu seem a third world program.

Andrew
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2010/1/2 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

My response : do not use an old beta version in production. Use last
1.0.0 final out for Christmas.

More than 200 bugs have been fixed between beta5 and final. I cannot
be more clear.

I have already said in this room that Ubuntu make a mistake to place a
beta release in production WITHOUT to update packages step by step
until final release. Mandriva do it very well. Ubuntu team is not
serious for me. Ignoring software cycle release, especially in open
source is a shame.

Yes, my words are a little bit hard... But you must understand me :
why trying to fix and fix and fix bugs is the more used linux
distribution do not follow the game.

Anyway, happy new year... (:=))))

Gilles Caulier

2010/1/2 Andrew Ampers Taylor <[hidden email]>:

> I have been having a problem understanding one process of Digikam.
>
> I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this is one of
> three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump windows totally.
> Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will sort out
> Lightroom.
>
> However I have a large collection of photographs with far too many
> duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so unclear (to
> me) how to do this.
>
> I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.
>
> I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders showing.
>
> I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I have
> searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.
>
> I am using version
>
> digiKam
> Version 1.0.0-beta5
>
> I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using Ubuntu Karmic
> 9.10.
>
> And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't see my 70th
> birthday again!
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>
>

> _______________________________________________
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> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
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[Andrew "Ampers" Taylor]

A further reply, I wanted to keep the replies separate as the last one went to Canonical head office so they can sort something out.

At 70, there is one thing I can assure you, I am NOT going to learn another distro. I have a life and I edit a newspaper.

I like what you are doing and I will return in six months. If all is working well, I will definitely donate to this project as I think you have put in tremendous work. I can live with dual rebooting until then.

I have put this in my task list to come back on June 1st.
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2010/1/2 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

My response : do not use an old beta version in production. Use last
1.0.0 final out for Christmas.

More than 200 bugs have been fixed between beta5 and final. I cannot
be more clear.

I have already said in this room that Ubuntu make a mistake to place a
beta release in production WITHOUT to update packages step by step
until final release. Mandriva do it very well. Ubuntu team is not
serious for me. Ignoring software cycle release, especially in open
source is a shame.

Yes, my words are a little bit hard... But you must understand me :
why trying to fix and fix and fix bugs is the more used linux
distribution do not follow the game.

Anyway, happy new year... (:=))))

Gilles Caulier

2010/1/2 Andrew Ampers Taylor <[hidden email]>:

> I have been having a problem understanding one process of Digikam.
>
> I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this is one of
> three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump windows totally.
> Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will sort out
> Lightroom.
>
> However I have a large collection of photographs with far too many
> duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so unclear (to
> me) how to do this.
>
> I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.
>
> I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders showing.
>
> I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I have
> searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.
>
> I am using version
>
> digiKam
> Version 1.0.0-beta5
>
> I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using Ubuntu Karmic
> 9.10.
>
> And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't see my 70th
> birthday again!
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>
>

> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>
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[hornpipe2]

I'm confused, did anyone ever answer your question?  Is the function
simply missing in 1.0.0 beta5, or what?

-Greg

Andrew Ampers Taylor wrote:

> Yes, this is very frustrating. I have found a way, but it is going to
> take about fifteen hours to do it.
>
> Gerry, please take note, this makes Ubuntu seem a third world program.
>
> Andrew
> __________________________________________________________
> Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
> Website: www.FinchleyArrow.co.uk <http://www.FinchleyArrow.co.uk>
> Voice: UK 020-8020 3904 - USA 1-202-580 8694
> Fax [phone] Mobile [phone] "ampers" on Skype
> Founder and first editor of The Archer and The Finchley Arrow (North
> London local newspapers)
>
>
> 2010/1/2 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
>     My response : do not use an old beta version in production. Use last
>     1.0.0 final out for Christmas.
>
>     More than 200 bugs have been fixed between beta5 and final. I cannot
>     be more clear.
>
>     I have already said in this room that Ubuntu make a mistake to place a
>     beta release in production WITHOUT to update packages step by step
>     until final release. Mandriva do it very well. Ubuntu team is not
>     serious for me. Ignoring software cycle release, especially in open
>     source is a shame.
>
>     Yes, my words are a little bit hard... But you must understand me :
>     why trying to fix and fix and fix bugs is the more used linux
>     distribution do not follow the game.
>
>     Anyway, happy new year... (:=))))
>
>     Gilles Caulier
>
>     2010/1/2 Andrew Ampers Taylor <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>     > I have been having a problem understanding one process of Digikam.
>     >
>     > I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this
>     is one of
>     > three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump
>     windows totally.
>     > Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will
>     sort out
>     > Lightroom.
>     >
>     > However I have a large collection of photographs with far too many
>     > duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so
>     unclear (to
>     > me) how to do this.
>     >
>     > I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.
>     >
>     > I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders showing.
>     >
>     > I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I have
>     > searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.
>     >
>     > I am using version
>     >
>     > digiKam
>     > Version 1.0.0-beta5
>     >
>     > I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using
>     Ubuntu Karmic
>     > 9.10.
>     >
>     > And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't
>     see my 70th
>     > birthday again!
>     >
>     > __________________________________________________________
>     > Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Digikam-users mailing list
>     > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>     >
>     >
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>     https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

We cannot respond for that. with more than 200 bugs fixed between
beta5 and final, it a waste of time to search.

definitivly, update to final release to use in production. Never use a
beta release in production, never...

Gilles Caulier

2010/1/2 Greg Kennedy <[hidden email]>:

> I'm confused, did anyone ever answer your question?  Is the function
> simply missing in 1.0.0 beta5, or what?
>
> -Greg
>
> Andrew Ampers Taylor wrote:
>> Yes, this is very frustrating. I have found a way, but it is going to
>> take about fifteen hours to do it.
>>
>> Gerry, please take note, this makes Ubuntu seem a third world program.
>>
>> Andrew
>> __________________________________________________________
>> Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>> Website: www.FinchleyArrow.co.uk <http://www.FinchleyArrow.co.uk>
>> Voice: UK 020-8020 3904 - USA 1-202-580 8694
>> Fax [phone] Mobile [phone] "ampers" on Skype
>> Founder and first editor of The Archer and The Finchley Arrow (North
>> London local newspapers)
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/2 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>>
>>     My response : do not use an old beta version in production. Use last
>>     1.0.0 final out for Christmas.
>>
>>     More than 200 bugs have been fixed between beta5 and final. I cannot
>>     be more clear.
>>
>>     I have already said in this room that Ubuntu make a mistake to place a
>>     beta release in production WITHOUT to update packages step by step
>>     until final release. Mandriva do it very well. Ubuntu team is not
>>     serious for me. Ignoring software cycle release, especially in open
>>     source is a shame.
>>
>>     Yes, my words are a little bit hard... But you must understand me :
>>     why trying to fix and fix and fix bugs is the more used linux
>>     distribution do not follow the game.
>>
>>     Anyway, happy new year... (:=))))
>>
>>     Gilles Caulier
>>
>>     2010/1/2 Andrew Ampers Taylor <[hidden email]
>>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>     > I have been having a problem understanding one process of Digikam.
>>     >
>>     > I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this
>>     is one of
>>     > three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump
>>     windows totally.
>>     > Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will
>>     sort out
>>     > Lightroom.
>>     >
>>     > However I have a large collection of photographs with far too many
>>     > duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so
>>     unclear (to
>>     > me) how to do this.
>>     >
>>     > I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.
>>     >
>>     > I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders showing.
>>     >
>>     > I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I have
>>     > searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.
>>     >
>>     > I am using version
>>     >
>>     > digiKam
>>     > Version 1.0.0-beta5
>>     >
>>     > I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using
>>     Ubuntu Karmic
>>     > 9.10.
>>     >
>>     > And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't
>>     see my 70th
>>     > birthday again!
>>     >
>>     > __________________________________________________________
>>     > Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > _______________________________________________
>>     > Digikam-users mailing list
>>     > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>     > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>     >
>>     >
>>     _______________________________________________
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>>     [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>     https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>
>>
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[Gys van Zyl]

Yes, I have to say that this discussion has gone off on a tangent so fast that the original question is nowhere in sight.  If I understand Andrew's question correctly, he has used digikam to find duplicates in his photo collection.  Now he needs a way to quickly delete all the duplicates.  I've not done this myself, but I'm going to try it.  I'll first have to generate the fingerprints though, so it'll take some time.  It should be as simple as Ctrl-A to select all the duplicates once digikam has found them and then pressing delete to get rid of them, but I'll see.

BTW, personally I was very happy that ubuntu put beta 5 in the repositories.  There are no dealbreaker bugs for me and usability has gone up tremendously from 0.10.  I just wish that they'd update the package to 1.0 final now that it's available.

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Greg Kennedy <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'm confused, did anyone ever answer your question?  Is the function
simply missing in 1.0.0 beta5, or what?

-Greg

Andrew Ampers Taylor wrote:
> Yes, this is very frustrating. I have found a way, but it is going to
> take about fifteen hours to do it.
>
> Gerry, please take note, this makes Ubuntu seem a third world program.
>
> Andrew
> __________________________________________________________
> Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow

> Website: www.FinchleyArrow.co.uk <http://www.FinchleyArrow.co.uk>

> Voice: UK 020-8020 3904 - USA 1-202-580 8694
> Fax [phone] Mobile [phone] "ampers" on Skype
> Founder and first editor of The Archer and The Finchley Arrow (North
> London local newspapers)
>
>
> 2010/1/2 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]

> <mailto:[hidden email]>>

>
>     My response : do not use an old beta version in production. Use last
>     1.0.0 final out for Christmas.
>
>     More than 200 bugs have been fixed between beta5 and final. I cannot
>     be more clear.
>
>     I have already said in this room that Ubuntu make a mistake to place a
>     beta release in production WITHOUT to update packages step by step
>     until final release. Mandriva do it very well. Ubuntu team is not
>     serious for me. Ignoring software cycle release, especially in open
>     source is a shame.
>
>     Yes, my words are a little bit hard... But you must understand me :
>     why trying to fix and fix and fix bugs is the more used linux
>     distribution do not follow the game.
>
>     Anyway, happy new year... (:=))))
>
>     Gilles Caulier
>
>     2010/1/2 Andrew Ampers Taylor <[hidden email]

>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>:

>     > I have been having a problem understanding one process of Digikam.
>     >
>     > I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this
>     is one of
>     > three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump
>     windows totally.
>     > Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will
>     sort out
>     > Lightroom.
>     >
>     > However I have a large collection of photographs with far too many
>     > duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so
>     unclear (to
>     > me) how to do this.
>     >
>     > I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.
>     >
>     > I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders showing.
>     >
>     > I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I have
>     > searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.
>     >
>     > I am using version
>     >
>     > digiKam
>     > Version 1.0.0-beta5
>     >
>     > I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using
>     Ubuntu Karmic
>     > 9.10.
>     >
>     > And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't
>     see my 70th
>     > birthday again!
>     >
>     > __________________________________________________________
>     > Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Digikam-users mailing list

>     > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>

>     > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>     >
>     >
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On Saturday 02 of January 2010 18:53:39 Gys van Zyl wrote:
> BTW, personally I was very happy that ubuntu put beta 5 in the
>  repositories.  There are no dealbreaker bugs for me and usability has gone
>  up tremendously from 0.10.  I just wish that they'd update the package to
>  1.0 final now that it's available.

1.0 final will be available in karmic-backports soon (I am working on package
to backport just now). You already have 1.0rc1 version in the karmic-backports
that do not have the crasher bug on import from camera.
So if you want to use latest version in Karmic, enable Backports repositories.

BTW, I am also not that happy that Karmic shipped with beta5 (particularly due
to annoying crasher bug), but I agree that going back to 0.10 at that point in
time (when release plan for 1.0 release was changed again) was also not best
solution.

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[tosca]

Thanks for the information.
Will it work with Jaunty too; or do I have to migrate Ubuntu first (I
tried a couple of weeks ago, but couldn't get an internet connection
afterwards).

Marie-Noëlle


2010/1/2 Luka Renko <[hidden email]>:
> On Saturday 02 of January 2010 18:53:39 Gys van Zyl wrote:
>
> 1.0 final will be available in karmic-backports soon (I am working on package
> to backport just now). You already have 1.0rc1 version in the karmic-backports
> that do not have the crasher bug on import from camera.
> So if you want to use latest version in Karmic, enable Backports repositories.
>

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On Saturday 02 of January 2010 23:34:06 Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:
> Will it work with Jaunty too; or do I have to migrate Ubuntu first (I
> tried a couple of weeks ago, but couldn't get an internet connection
> afterwards).

No, it will not work in Jaunty, as it is built with KDE 4.3 from Karmic.

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[Photonoxx]

I don't think the use of 1.0.0 beta5 is the matter.

If I have rightly understand, Andrew want to delete in a mostly automatic  
way his duplicates photos.

But, for me, the first matter is how could Digikam know which file to  
delete and which one to keep ? I don't think it's possible for the moment  
and you have to choose manually.

Now, I understand what can be problematic here. Digikam show duplicates  
results one by one. I mean you have to click in the left panel on a result  
to see the involved for this particular result, but you can't see all the  
found duplicates in one time.

So, the way to delete all the duplicates is to browse one by one the  
results, select the files to delete and delete their. And do the same  
thing for each result.

May be it could be great to offer the possibility to see all the result in  
one time, each result grouped as in present version but followed by the  
others. In this way, it take anyway a long time (it's why it's better to  
be aware of not duplicate too easily the files), but with this display  
possibility, we can potentially select all the files to deleted in one  
time (without having to delete and switch to the next result).


To come back to the second discussion, I think too it's harmful that  
Ubuntu repository keepers doesn't update eventual beta version they  
integer in repository. In an other point of view, as it was said, as the  
politic of Ubuntu is too block version of each software for the repository  
of a particular release, if it's meaning to stay with digikam 0.10.0, it's  
not the best way for some users too.

But I am 100% agree with updating beta included in repository, as true  
it's not really a new version but an achievement.

Personally, I have to use SVN because I have a bug which finally was  
related to exiv2 and not Digikam, but I stay on SVN (with 1.1.0) because  
it's not very convenient for me to change the way Digikam is installed (I  
don't blame Digikam here, just me to don't be enough self confident in  
build and install and, as many newcomers in linux, to prefer repository  
install way.... so if I start to use SVN... (I know I could install 1.0.0  
final in the same way but I'm lazy too :>. ).

Kind regards

Nicolas

Le Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:53:39 +0100, Gys van Zyl <[hidden email]> a  
écrit:

> Yes, I have to say that this discussion has gone off on a tangent so fast
> that the original question is nowhere in sight.  If I understand Andrew's
> question correctly, he has used digikam to find duplicates in his photo
> collection.  Now he needs a way to quickly delete all the duplicates.  
> I've
> not done this myself, but I'm going to try it.  I'll first have to  
> generate
> the fingerprints though, so it'll take some time.  It should be as  
> simple as
> Ctrl-A to select all the duplicates once digikam has found them and then
> pressing delete to get rid of them, but I'll see.
>
> BTW, personally I was very happy that ubuntu put beta 5 in the  
> repositories.
>  There are no dealbreaker bugs for me and usability has gone up  
> tremendously
> from 0.10.  I just wish that they'd update the package to 1.0 final now  
> that
> it's available.
>
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Greg Kennedy <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm confused, did anyone ever answer your question?  Is the function
>> simply missing in 1.0.0 beta5, or what?
>>
>> -Greg
>>
>> Andrew Ampers Taylor wrote:
>> > Yes, this is very frustrating. I have found a way, but it is going to
>> > take about fifteen hours to do it.
>> >
>> > Gerry, please take note, this makes Ubuntu seem a third world program.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> > __________________________________________________________
>> > Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley Arrow
>> > Website: www.FinchleyArrow.co.uk <http://www.FinchleyArrow.co.uk>
>> > Voice: UK 020-8020 3904 - USA 1-202-580 8694
>> > Fax [phone] Mobile [phone] "ampers" on Skype
>> > Founder and first editor of The Archer and The Finchley Arrow (North
>> > London local newspapers)
>> >
>> >
>> > 2010/1/2 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]
>> > <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>> >
>> >     My response : do not use an old beta version in production. Use  
>> last
>> >     1.0.0 final out for Christmas.
>> >
>> >     More than 200 bugs have been fixed between beta5 and final. I  
>> cannot
>> >     be more clear.
>> >
>> >     I have already said in this room that Ubuntu make a mistake to  
>> place
>> a
>> >     beta release in production WITHOUT to update packages step by step
>> >     until final release. Mandriva do it very well. Ubuntu team is not
>> >     serious for me. Ignoring software cycle release, especially in  
>> open
>> >     source is a shame.
>> >
>> >     Yes, my words are a little bit hard... But you must understand me  
>> :
>> >     why trying to fix and fix and fix bugs is the more used linux
>> >     distribution do not follow the game.
>> >
>> >     Anyway, happy new year... (:=))))
>> >
>> >     Gilles Caulier
>> >
>> >     2010/1/2 Andrew Ampers Taylor <[hidden email]
>> >     <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>> >     > I have been having a problem understanding one process of  
>> Digikam.
>> >     >
>> >     > I have been using Lightroom and photoshop for a while and this
>> >     is one of
>> >     > three operations I need to move to Linux before I can dump
>> >     windows totally.
>> >     > Gimp sorts out Photoshop and I have a feeling your program will
>> >     sort out
>> >     > Lightroom.
>> >     >
>> >     > However I have a large collection of photographs with far too  
>> many
>> >     > duplicates and I am trying to remove them but cannot as it is so
>> >     unclear (to
>> >     > me) how to do this.
>> >     >
>> >     > I have created fingerprints, and searched for duplicates.
>> >     >
>> >     > I have hundreds of duplicates spread over dozens of folders
>> showing.
>> >     >
>> >     > I read in the manual that I can go to Delete/Delete All, (yes I
>> have
>> >     > searched the manual) but I cannot find this command anywhere.
>> >     >
>> >     > I am using version
>> >     >
>> >     > digiKam
>> >     > Version 1.0.0-beta5
>> >     >
>> >     > I downloaded this from the Ubuntu repository and I am using
>> >     Ubuntu Karmic
>> >     > 9.10.
>> >     >
>> >     > And if anyone can help, please spell it out carefully as I won't
>> >     see my 70th
>> >     > birthday again!
>> >     >
>> >     > __________________________________________________________
>> >     > Andrew "Ampers" Taylor -  London UK - Editor of The Finchley  
>> Arrow
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Le 03/01/2010 11:49, Photonoxx a écrit :

> But, for me, the first matter is how could Digikam know which file to  
> delete and which one to keep ?

true

How can digikam know which is the "duplicate" and wich is the original?

may be a solution - if all the originals are in indetified folders -
to make these folders read only (with the operating system) and them
delete all. The originals should stay :-)

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[Marcel Wiesweg]

> BTW, personally I was very happy that ubuntu put beta 5 in the
>  repositories. There are no dealbreaker bugs for me

It's been real fun for us as well. Just this bug 210462. Only 90 duplicate
reports up to now. No problem. Only the seventh most reported bug in KDE
history. Every single report was fun reading and recognizing as duplicate.
We're very happy.


>  and usability has gone
>  up tremendously from 0.10.  I just wish that they'd update the package to
>  1.0 final now that it's available.

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2010/1/3 Marcel Wiesweg <[hidden email]>:
>
>> BTW, personally I was very happy that ubuntu put beta 5 in the
>>  repositories. There are no dealbreaker bugs for me
>
> It's been real fun for us as well. Just this bug 210462. Only 90 duplicate
> reports up to now. No problem. Only the seventh most reported bug in KDE
> history. Every single report was fun reading and recognizing as duplicate.
> We're very happy.
>

I'm agree with Marcel, but i will more strict : It's really a shame to
put a beta release in production without to follow project
development.

At least, a linux box as Ubuntu must use last stable in production. No more.

With Mandriva team, i have more contact, and they ask to me if a beta
release can be set in production (for ex a release candidate).

It's simple : ask us before to release a linux box...

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On Sunday 03 of January 2010 17:51:22 Gilles Caulier wrote:
> I'm agree with Marcel, but i will more strict : It's really a shame to
> put a beta release in production without to follow project
> development.

I agree about shipping beta in stable release, however we have to also accept
the fact that initial digikam 1.0 release plan was changed couple of times,
making 1.0 final release out of reach for Karmic. The problem is that Ubuntu
developers wanted to follow planned 1.0 releases as closely as possible (when
digikam release plan was still aligned with Karmic release plan) and have
started with 1.0 beta2 in Karmic.
When it became clear that digikam 1.0 final (and also rc1) will miss Karmic
deadlines, going back to 0.10 was also not considered as wise idea, since we
had many Karmic beta users with good feedback about digikam. At that point
Ubuntu developers were not aware about very visible crasher bug in camera
import.

> With Mandriva team, i have more contact, and they ask to me if a beta
> release can be set in production (for ex a release candidate).

So did Mandriva had to go back to 0.10 for last release (due to digikam
release delay)?

> It's simple : ask us before to release a linux box...

As I am on the both sides (digikam/kipi-plugins developer and kubuntu
developer), I will take care that this will be more aligned in future than it
was in Karmic (when my FOSS time was almost zero due to new family member
;-)).

I will also like to stress that it is great to have release plans (as we now
have for digikam), but that any change of release plan has to be taken with
care and proper (wide) communication in order to ensure that all potential
downstream projects (distros) are informed and can adopt their plans.

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[Julien Narboux]

Luka,

I do not get why you need an exception to Ubuntu rules to add 1.0.0 final in updates :

"
Stable release updates will, in general, only be issued in order to fix high-impact bugs. Examples of such bugs include:
Bugs which represent severe regressions from the previous release of Ubuntu.
...
Bugs which do not fit under above categories, but (1) have an obviously safe patch and (2) affect an application rather than critical infrastructure packages (like X.org or the kernel).
"

I think the crash when downloading pictures is a high-impact bug and Digikam is an application rather than critical infrastructure...
It is always better to have a stable release rather than a beta... especially when the beta has a high impact bug.


Julien



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On Sunday 03 of January 2010 19:27:54 Julien Narboux wrote:
> I do not get why you need an exception to Ubuntu rules to add 1.0.0 final
>  in updates :
>
Problem is, that stable release updates are supposed to fix only specific bugs,
while new upstream version brings also new features. I have talked with Martin
Pitt from Ubuntu Release team about possible exception and he said that they
would not allow complete upstream release, unless it is fixes-only.

Regards,
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