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FerBatista
I've been trying to set digikam with the color profiles from my camera and monitor but none of them appears in the color space list, they are in the folder as I placed them there myself but just don't appear on the list. Also a lot of the other profiles on the folder don't appear on the list, not that I care about the other profiles, I'm just curious.

The cameras are a Nikon D70 and D50, and the monitor is a Sony SDM HX75.

I'd really apreciate any help on this.


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I dialog is missed in setup to give more feedback of profiles witch are recognized by "lcms" library witch handle ICC files.

If you run digiKam from a console, you will see more debug info about ICC files parsed.

Gilles

2007/5/30, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:

I've been trying to set digikam with the color profiles from my camera and
monitor but none of them appears in the color space list, they are in the
folder as I placed them there myself but just don't appear on the list. Also
a lot of the other profiles on the folder don't appear on the list, not that
I care about the other profiles, I'm just curious.

The cameras are a Nikon D70 and D50, and the monitor is a Sony SDM HX75.

I'd really apreciate any help on this.


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FerBatista
Thank you for the reply. It was very fast too.

But unfortunately, I'm not getting there, I tried running digikam from the console but I can still see the same profiles, not more. Is there something else I should do?



Gilles Caulier-3 wrote
I dialog is missed in setup to give more feedback of profiles witch are
recognized by "lcms" library witch handle ICC files.

If you run digiKam from a console, you will see more debug info about ICC
files parsed.

Gilles
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2007/5/30, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:

Thank you for the reply. It was very fast too.

But unfortunately, I'm not getting there, I tried running digikam from the
console but I can still see the same profiles, not more. Is there something
else I should do?

The ICC profiles debug messages appears on the console when you enter on digiKam Config dialog and you set a new ICC profile repository path in color management setup.

Of course, digiKam must be compiled with debug symbol, else nothing will appears.

Gilles
 

Gilles Caulier-3 wrote:

>
> I dialog is missed in setup to give more feedback of profiles witch are
> recognized by "lcms" library witch handle ICC files.
>
> If you run digiKam from a console, you will see more debug info about ICC
> files parsed.
>
> Gilles
>
>

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Hmm... I guess I should mention that I'm a Linux newbie, also I'm not a very advanced computer user, so you'll have to forgive me but I have to ask for a little more details than that or a tutorial link on this subject.

I really don't know anything about compiling apps, also what's the debug symbol?

Thanks again.
   


Gilles Caulier-3 wrote
2007/5/30, FerBatista <ferbatista@mail.telepac.pt>:
>
>
> Thank you for the reply. It was very fast too.
>
> But unfortunately, I'm not getting there, I tried running digikam from the
> console but I can still see the same profiles, not more. Is there
> something
> else I should do?


The ICC profiles debug messages appears on the console when you enter on
digiKam Config dialog and you set a new ICC profile repository path in color
management setup.

Of course, digiKam must be compiled with debug symbol, else nothing will
appears.

Gilles


Gilles Caulier-3 wrote:
> >
> > I dialog is missed in setup to give more feedback of profiles witch are
> > recognized by "lcms" library witch handle ICC files.
> >
> > If you run digiKam from a console, you will see more debug info about
> ICC
> > files parsed.
> >
> > Gilles
> >
> >
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2007/5/30, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:

Hmm... I guess I should mention that I'm a Linux newbie, also I'm not a very
advanced computer user, so you'll have to forgive me but I have to ask for a
little more details than that or a tutorial link on this subject.

I really don't know anything about compiling apps, also what's the debug
symbol?

Typically, there are 2  ways to install a program :

- one devel bin program with debug symbols : big and slow, but dedicaced to give report if it crash and provide informations on console. It generally the case when you compile yourself the program using a source tarball (and when you use the right options to compile it in this mode)
- one target bin program without debug symbols : less big, more fast and optimized. It generally provided by package like RPM or DEB.

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El Miércoles, 30 de Mayo de 2007, Gilles Caulier escribió:

> 2007/5/30, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:
> > Hmm... I guess I should mention that I'm a Linux newbie, also I'm not a
> > very
> > advanced computer user, so you'll have to forgive me but I have to ask
> > for a
> > little more details than that or a tutorial link on this subject.
> >
> > I really don't know anything about compiling apps, also what's the debug
> > symbol?
>
> Typically, there are 2  ways to install a program :
>
> - one devel bin program with debug symbols : big and slow, but dedicaced to
> give report if it crash and provide informations on console. It generally
> the case when you compile yourself the program using a source tarball (and
> when you use the right options to compile it in this mode)
> - one target bin program without debug symbols : less big, more fast and
> optimized. It generally provided by package like RPM or DEB.
>
> Gilles

Could you send me some of those profiles?, I can try to do some tests with
them.


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FerBatista
I tried to compile digikam but it's a bit to much for my knowledge so far, the first two steps (configure and make) went ok, but I got a few errors in the next step. So I quit the job for now. Anyway I noticed that the monitor profile extension was written in capital letter so I corrected that and guess what... it works ok for the monitor profile now.

The only ones I can't make work now are Nikon's profiles under input. Nikon CMYK works under proof, and Nikon adobe appears both on monitor and workspace, but not on input. These are input profiles or at least they should be, or am I wrong?

I can send the profiles but where do I send it to?

Thanks



F.J.Cruz-2 wrote
El Miércoles, 30 de Mayo de 2007, Gilles Caulier escribió:
> 2007/5/30, FerBatista <ferbatista@mail.telepac.pt>:
>
>
> Typically, there are 2  ways to install a program :
>
> - one devel bin program with debug symbols : big and slow, but dedicaced to
> give report if it crash and provide informations on console. It generally
> the case when you compile yourself the program using a source tarball (and
> when you use the right options to compile it in this mode)
> - one target bin program without debug symbols : less big, more fast and
> optimized. It generally provided by package like RPM or DEB.
>
> Gilles

Could you send me some of those profiles?, I can try to do some tests with
them.


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Gilles Caulier-4
FerBatista,

Original Nikon and Canon icc camera profiles has problems... It do not repect/implemente completely the standard defined with ICC stuff... Look in mailing list archive for details... Paco can give you more informations than me, as he have a Nikon camera...

I recommend to try the profiles witch come from LightZone. Its work very well with digiKam. Files are here :

http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/ICCPROFILES/CameraProfiles/LZ.2.0/

Gilles Caulier

2007/5/31, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:

I tried to compile digikam but it's a bit to much for my knowledge so far,
the first two steps (configure and make) went ok, but I got a few errors in
the next step. So I quit the job for now. Anyway I noticed that the monitor
profile extension was written in capital letter so I corrected that and
guess what... it works ok for the monitor profile now.

The only ones I can't make work now are Nikon's profiles under input. Nikon
CMYK works under proof, and Nikon adobe appears both on monitor and
workspace, but not on input. These are input profiles or at least they
should be, or am I wrong?

I can send the profiles but where do I send it to?

Thanks




F.J.Cruz-2 wrote:

>
> El Miércoles, 30 de Mayo de 2007, Gilles Caulier escribió:
>> 2007/5/30, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>
>> Typically, there are 2  ways to install a program :
>>
>> - one devel bin program with debug symbols : big and slow, but dedicaced
>> to
>> give report if it crash and provide informations on console. It generally
>> the case when you compile yourself the program using a source tarball
>> (and
>> when you use the right options to compile it in this mode)
>> - one target bin program without debug symbols : less big, more fast and
>> optimized. It generally provided by package like RPM or DEB.
>>
>> Gilles
>
> Could you send me some of those profiles?, I can try to do some tests with
> them.
>
>
> Paco Cruz.
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FerBatista
I installed those right now, they do indeed work. I'll try them latter when I get home again, thanks for that.

I'd like to ask another question though, is there anyway to convert an image from one space to another? I usually work on my pics on adobe space, and then I convert them to another space depending on the destination of the pic (sRGB for web, etc), can I do this on DigiKam? I've searched this in the forums but I didn't find an answer yet.

Regards

Gilles Caulier-3 wrote
FerBatista,

Original Nikon and Canon icc camera profiles has problems... It do not
repect/implemente completely the standard defined with ICC stuff... Look in
mailing list archive for details... Paco can give you more informations than
me, as he have a Nikon camera...

I recommend to try the profiles witch come from LightZone. Its work very
well with digiKam. Files are here :

http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/ICCPROFILES/CameraProfiles/LZ.2.0/

Gilles Caulier

2007/5/31, FerBatista <ferbatista@mail.telepac.pt>:
>
>
> I tried to compile digikam but it's a bit to much for my knowledge so far,
> the first two steps (configure and make) went ok, but I got a few errors
> in
> the next step. So I quit the job for now. Anyway I noticed that the
> monitor
> profile extension was written in capital letter so I corrected that and
> guess what... it works ok for the monitor profile now.
>
> The only ones I can't make work now are Nikon's profiles under input.
> Nikon
> CMYK works under proof, and Nikon adobe appears both on monitor and
> workspace, but not on input. These are input profiles or at least they
> should be, or am I wrong?
>
> I can send the profiles but where do I send it to?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> F.J.Cruz-2 wrote:
> >
> > El Miércoles, 30 de Mayo de 2007, Gilles Caulier escribió:
> >> 2007/5/30, FerBatista <ferbatista@mail.telepac.pt>:
> >>
> >>
> >> Typically, there are 2  ways to install a program :
> >>
> >> - one devel bin program with debug symbols : big and slow, but
> dedicaced
> >> to
> >> give report if it crash and provide informations on console. It
> generally
> >> the case when you compile yourself the program using a source tarball
> >> (and
> >> when you use the right options to compile it in this mode)
> >> - one target bin program without debug symbols : less big, more fast
> and
> >> optimized. It generally provided by package like RPM or DEB.
> >>
> >> Gilles
> >
> > Could you send me some of those profiles?, I can try to do some tests
> with
> > them.
> >
> >
> > Paco Cruz.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Digikam-users@kde.org
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> >
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2007/6/1, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:

I installed those right now, they do indeed work. I'll try them latter when I
get home again, thanks for that.

I'd like to ask another question though, is there anyway to convert an image
from one space to another? I usually work on my pics on adobe space, and
then I convert them to another space depending on the destination of the pic
(sRGB for web, etc), can I do this on DigiKam? I've searched this in the
forums but I didn't find an answer yet.


The current to do it is to use the Color Management plugin with this settings:

General : like you want...
Input profile : use embeded
WorkSpace profile : the profile that you want use to convert image.
Proffing : don't care.
Lightness : like you want.

There is a file in bugzilla to provide a new option to simplify workspace conversion like photoshop do, using a simple menu entry. Look here :

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138446

... and vote for it (:=)))

Gilles
 

Regards


Gilles Caulier-3 wrote:

>
> FerBatista,
>
> Original Nikon and Canon icc camera profiles has problems... It do not
> repect/implemente completely the standard defined with ICC stuff... Look
> in
> mailing list archive for details... Paco can give you more informations
> than
> me, as he have a Nikon camera...
>
> I recommend to try the profiles witch come from LightZone. Its work very
> well with digiKam. Files are here :
>
> http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/ICCPROFILES/CameraProfiles/LZ.2.0/
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2007/5/31, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>
>> I tried to compile digikam but it's a bit to much for my knowledge so
>> far,
>> the first two steps (configure and make) went ok, but I got a few errors
>> in
>> the next step. So I quit the job for now. Anyway I noticed that the
>> monitor
>> profile extension was written in capital letter so I corrected that and
>> guess what... it works ok for the monitor profile now.
>>
>> The only ones I can't make work now are Nikon's profiles under input.
>> Nikon
>> CMYK works under proof, and Nikon adobe appears both on monitor and
>> workspace, but not on input. These are input profiles or at least they
>> should be, or am I wrong?
>>

>> I can send the profiles but where do I send it to?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> F.J.Cruz-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > El Miércoles, 30 de Mayo de 2007, Gilles Caulier escribió:
>> >> 2007/5/30, FerBatista <[hidden email]>:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Typically, there are 2  ways to install a program :
>> >>
>> >> - one devel bin program with debug symbols : big and slow, but
>> dedicaced
>> >> to
>> >> give report if it crash and provide informations on console. It
>> generally
>> >> the case when you compile yourself the program using a source tarball
>> >> (and
>> >> when you use the right options to compile it in this mode)
>> >> - one target bin program without debug symbols : less big, more fast

>> and
>> >> optimized. It generally provided by package like RPM or DEB.
>> >>
>> >> Gilles
>> >
>> > Could you send me some of those profiles?, I can try to do some tests
>> with
>> > them.
>> >
>> >
>> > Paco Cruz.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Digikam-users mailing list
>> > [hidden email]
>> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >
>> >
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FerBatista
Done, I also voted for a few other bugs while at it.

Anyway, after knowing how it works it doesn't seem that important for me that it works like PS. It's more a question of beeing used to how PS works. But now that I know how DigiKam color management works, I like it very much.

Thank you for your time, you've been a great help.


Gilles Caulier-3 wrote

The current to do it is to use the Color Management plugin with this
settings:

General : like you want...
Input profile : use embeded
WorkSpace profile : the profile that you want use to convert image.
Proffing : don't care.
Lightness : like you want.

There is a file in bugzilla to provide a new option to simplify workspace
conversion like photoshop do, using a simple menu entry. Look here :

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138446

... and vote for it (:=)))

Gilles


Regards