Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

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Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Chris Green
Is there a setting somewhere to make drag and drop of images from
Digikam copy rather than move?

I was a bit surprised just now when I wanted to copy a few pictures
from Digikam and they were actually moved out of my main picture
hierarchy rather than copied.

If it's relevant I was dragging and dropping from Digikam into Thunar
on xubuntu 15.04.

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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Elle Stone-2
On 11/17/2015 08:13 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Is there a setting somewhere to make drag and drop of images from
> Digikam copy rather than move?
>
> I was a bit surprised just now when I wanted to copy a few pictures
> from Digikam and they were actually moved out of my main picture
> hierarchy rather than copied.
>
> If it's relevant I was dragging and dropping from Digikam into Thunar
> on xubuntu 15.04.
>
Export/Export to remote computer allows you to make a copy of an image
in another place on your own local computer's hard drive, despite the
odd-seeming "export" part.
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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Gilles Caulier-4
Use keyboard modifiers while D&D, as CTRL or SHIFT or ALT (I don't remember which one exactly is used to specify a move or a copy)

Gilles Caulier

2015-11-17 14:34 GMT+01:00 Elle Stone <[hidden email]>:
On 11/17/2015 08:13 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
Is there a setting somewhere to make drag and drop of images from
Digikam copy rather than move?

I was a bit surprised just now when I wanted to copy a few pictures
from Digikam and they were actually moved out of my main picture
hierarchy rather than copied.

If it's relevant I was dragging and dropping from Digikam into Thunar
on xubuntu 15.04.

Export/Export to remote computer allows you to make a copy of an image in another place on your own local computer's hard drive, despite the odd-seeming "export" part.

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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Chris Green
Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Use keyboard modifiers while D&D, as CTRL or SHIFT or ALT (I don't remember
> which one exactly is used to specify a move or a copy)
>
Ah, thanks Gilles.  It's CTRL that changes move to copy.

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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Chris Green
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Elle Stone <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 11/17/2015 08:13 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> > Is there a setting somewhere to make drag and drop of images from
> > Digikam copy rather than move?
> >
> > I was a bit surprised just now when I wanted to copy a few pictures
> > from Digikam and they were actually moved out of my main picture
> > hierarchy rather than copied.
> >
> > If it's relevant I was dragging and dropping from Digikam into Thunar
> > on xubuntu 15.04.
> >
> Export/Export to remote computer allows you to make a copy of an image
> in another place on your own local computer's hard drive, despite the
> odd-seeming "export" part.

Yes, there are several mechanisms for copying rather than moving but
none is quite so handy as the simple drag and drop which is always
going to be the first thing one tries.

Given that the default for drag and drop everywhere else seems to be
copy why does Digikam move?  (Actually Thunar simply asks whether you
want to move or copy)

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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Anders Kamf
My humble opinion is that it is far too easy to accidently move photos out of the collection. I would prefer a question before anything is removed, as I have when moving/deleting inside digikam.

Also I would really like a "lock" mode where no edit is allowed and you can only use filtering etc. to view and search collection and photos - but not accidently change anything.

Thanks for a great program!

Best regards
Anders

2015-11-17 16:26 GMT+01:00 <[hidden email]>:
Elle Stone <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 11/17/2015 08:13 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> > Is there a setting somewhere to make drag and drop of images from
> > Digikam copy rather than move?
> >
> > I was a bit surprised just now when I wanted to copy a few pictures
> > from Digikam and they were actually moved out of my main picture
> > hierarchy rather than copied.
> >
> > If it's relevant I was dragging and dropping from Digikam into Thunar
> > on xubuntu 15.04.
> >
> Export/Export to remote computer allows you to make a copy of an image
> in another place on your own local computer's hard drive, despite the
> odd-seeming "export" part.

Yes, there are several mechanisms for copying rather than moving but
none is quite so handy as the simple drag and drop which is always
going to be the first thing one tries.

Given that the default for drag and drop everywhere else seems to be
copy why does Digikam move?  (Actually Thunar simply asks whether you
want to move or copy)

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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Andreas Mair-2
Hi!

2015-11-25 9:30 GMT+01:00 Anders Kamf <[hidden email]>:
> My humble opinion is that it is far too easy to accidently move photos out
> of the collection.

+1000
IMHO "move" is OK if destination is inside DigiKam's pictures folders,
but should definitely be disabled or have a confirm dialog if
destination is for example dolphin.

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Andreas
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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Gilles Caulier-4


2015-11-26 9:22 GMT+01:00 Andreas Mair <[hidden email]>:
Hi!

2015-11-25 9:30 GMT+01:00 Anders Kamf <[hidden email]>:
> My humble opinion is that it is far too easy to accidently move photos out
> of the collection.

+1000
IMHO "move" is OK if destination is inside DigiKam's pictures folders,
but should definitely be disabled or have a confirm dialog if
destination is for example dolphin.

In this condition, the target place (dolphin) manage the way to show the dialog or not.

In other word, digiKam do not have any feedback of the drop place to show warning or not. This is delegate to target application...

Gilles Caulier

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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Remco Viëtor
On Thursday 26 November 2015 10:09:34 Gilles Caulier wrote:
> 2015-11-26 9:22 GMT+01:00 Andreas Mair <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > 2015-11-25 9:30 GMT+01:00 Anders Kamf <[hidden email]>:
> > > My humble opinion is that it is far too easy to accidently move
photos

> > out
> > > of the collection.
> >
> > +1000
> > IMHO "move" is OK if destination is inside DigiKam's pictures folders,
> > but should definitely be disabled or have a confirm dialog if
> > destination is for example dolphin.
> >
>
> In this condition, the target place (dolphin) manage the way to show the
> dialog or not.
>
> In other word, digiKam do not have any feedback of the drop place to show
> warning or not. This is delegate to target application...
>
> Gilles Caulier

If I understood drag&drop correctly, it's the *source* application that
decides about deletion (after a move). So at least Digikam should be able
to ask confirmation before deleting files. And to be safe, if the target is
unknown, such a confirmation should be asked, even if the drop is within  
Digikam's picture folders (as you said, Digikam can't know where the files
are dropped in such a case).

On the other hand, if the move is within Digikam, the target application is
known, so the confirmation could be skipped in that special case. For those
who like to live dangerously, it might be possible to add an option "do not
show this dialog again".

Remco
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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Michael Rasmussen
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:09:34AM +0100, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> In this condition, the target place (dolphin) manage the way to show the
> dialog or not.
 
Dolphin? Meaning the KDE file manager?

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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Gilles Caulier-4
yes, it is.

Gilles Caulier

2015-11-26 16:22 GMT+01:00 Michael Rasmussen <[hidden email]>:
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:09:34AM +0100, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> In this condition, the target place (dolphin) manage the way to show the
> dialog or not.

Dolphin? Meaning the KDE file manager?

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Re: Can drag/drop copy rather than move?

Michael Rasmussen
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 06:12:09PM +0100, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> yes, it is. [dolphin, the kde file manager]

I don't have Dolphin on my system. Am I missing Digikam functionality as a result?
 
> 2015-11-26 16:22 GMT+01:00 Michael Rasmussen <[hidden email]>:
> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:09:34AM +0100, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > > In this condition, the target place (dolphin) manage the way to show the
> > > dialog or not.
> >
> > Dolphin? Meaning the KDE file manager?

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