[Bug 199667] New: make writing of metadata to picture enabled by default

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199667

           Summary: make writing of metadata to picture enabled by default
           Product: digikam
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Compiled Sources
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: wishlist
          Priority: NOR
         Component: Metadata
        AssignedTo: [hidden email]
        ReportedBy: [hidden email]


Version:            (using Devel)
Compiler:          gcc4.3.2
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Compiled sources

Writing of digiKam metadata into picture tags should be enabled by default for
two reasons:

a) interoperability - when exchanging pictures with other people/machines all
data will be already there without problems
b) usability - the best place to view data about picture is Metadata panel but
it contains only metadata from image itself; so if user will add it in digiKam
and switch to Metadata panel it will be invisible in this panel

There are two cons I am aware of:

1) privacy - some tags, comments may be personal and user doesn't want to make
them globally visible
2) performance - writing of data in image takes some time; but IMO with current
systems this isn't really obstacle

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--- Comment #1 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-07-10 17:24:30 ---
Note : from First Run Assistant, digiKam will ask you about this subject...

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #2 from Mikolaj Machowski <mikmach wp pl>  2009-07-10 18:17:46 ---
Let me rephrase: make this option default in First Run Assistant :)

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--- Comment #3 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-07-10 18:42:49 ---
Mik,

I remember some old inflamed threads about this subject in users mailing list :
some users never want to touch image and let's meta-data preserved as well,
some others want it for a better interoperability.

For me, current behavior is enough and clear. The user want to store digiKam
info to images : he set-up this.

Question: which is the behavior from other photo-management programs ?

Gilles

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          Component|Metadata                    |setup




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--- Comment #4 from Arnd Baecker <arnd baecker web de>  2009-07-11 08:32:29 ---
Hi,

I am (pretty strongly) against enabling by default, to write digiKam metadata
into picture tags.
Reason: for many people original images are like negatives and should
not not be touched at all.
People which want to have meta-data embedded should activate writing
conciously.

Concerning
a) people who want to interoperate with other software can activate it if
necessary (there surely are quite a few people which do not need to work with
other software ...;-)
b) About the display in the metadata-panel: maybe the information stored
   within the database should be displayed as well (if it is not stored in
   the image files themselves)?

Best, Arnd

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--- Comment #5 from Milan Knizek <knizek volny cz>  2009-07-11 12:17:18 ---
I used to use Cumulus CMS in MS Windows several years ago - after migration to
linux, I have lost days of tagging work. This taught me what interoperability
is good for.

Then, I have been using MaPiVi until now - a perl script, in fact, with GUI not
very user-friendly, buth highly effective in tagging pictures (and keeping
metadata in images), it supported EXIF and IPTC for many years now and also
basic loss-less operations on JPEGs. Works in MS Windows and linux.

Now, switching from MaPiVi to digiKam was rather simple - I just had to change
the way how tags hierarchy is created ("/" instead of ".") using a bash script
and exiv2.

Actually, I still use MaPiVi in paralel, because I cannot easily modify
location IPTC tags in digiKam for a number of images.

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
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--- Comment #6 from Mikolaj Machowski <mikmach wp pl>  2009-07-13 19:37:27 ---
FotoStation saves everything in images. That's the idea behind the program.

I will close this as WONTFIX but Andi's idea from 4.b is a nice one.

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--- Comment #7 from Andi Clemens <andi clemens gmx net>  2009-07-13 19:58:28 ---
Hey it wasn't me :D
Credits go to Arnd

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