[Bug 198406] New: xmp not synchronized, uncomplete

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--- Comment #19 from Marcel Wiesweg <marcel wiesweg gmx de>  2009-07-02 16:12:05 ---
If I remember correctly there were plans to support porting EXIF and IPTC to
XMP directly as core functionality of exiv2?

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--- Comment #20 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-07-02 16:29:17 ---
Marcel,

An Exiv2 plan yes, already implement i don't think...

I CC Andreas to get more info about

Gilles

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--- Comment #21 from Andreas Huggel <ahuggel gmx net>  2009-07-02 18:02:26 ---
Gilles, Marcel,

Conversion functionality has been available since version 0.17:
http://www.exiv2.org/doc/convert_8hpp.html

The latest XMP specs has more details on conversions, some of which are not yet
implemented: http://dev.exiv2.org/issues/show/601

Andreas

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--- Comment #22 from Mikolaj Machowski <mikmach wp pl>  2009-07-02 21:02:17 ---
Radical idea: drop direct IPTC support (similar to FotoStation).

If possible write data to IPTC field corresponding to XMP if not, pity (most
important have clear "cousins" so shouldn't be issue).

If imported image has IPTC fields but not XMP - populate XMP fields and use
directly only them.

The only problem would be situation when imported image has IPTC and XMP
corresponding fields which would be different. Importing tool should in such
cases ask what to do: Choose XMP version, Choose IPTC version, Choose later -
in meantime values would be merged into one value and written to both sets of
data.

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--- Comment #23 from Marcel Wiesweg <marcel wiesweg gmx de>  2009-07-05 16:50:05 ---
I am currently favoring the idea to honor the the Metadata Working Group
Guidance for these XMP vs. Exif/IPTC cases. This can be something to talk about
on a coding sprint if Andreas Huggel is present as well.

It states that IPTC should not be written to unless already present; and unless
consumers will read the file the dont read XMP. This case, however, cannot
generally be excluded for us.

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--- Comment #24 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-07-08 17:16:27 ---
today i install again Mandriva 2010.0a1 thus i installed digikam 1.0.0b2
directly and not after 1.0.0b1 to test

when first opening digikam with the assistant i select "to copy metadata in
image"
i copied some pictures i manage with digikam 0.9.6

i synchronize album with db

i see nothing in xmp

i close digikam

i open digikam

i see what you see in "metadata in the right panel" joined capture

i close digikam

i open gwenview

i see the metadata, surprise !

i seee many dates, user comment, tags list (see gwenview capture)
then
i open digikam
then
i don't see :
- more data than when i first opendigikam after synchronizing with db
- not all but a great part of what i see in gwenview : many dates, user
comment, tags list


see the new metadata capture

for my purpose i miss only :
- sublocation
- location
- city
- state
- country
- gps
- data in xmp

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--- Comment #25 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-07-08 17:18:24 ---
in my comment #24

replace "i don't see" by "i see"

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--- Comment #26 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-07-08 17:20:28 ---
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what metadata i see in xmp in gwenview

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--- Comment #27 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-07-08 17:21:34 ---
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what new metadata i see in xmp in digikam

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--- Comment #28 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-07-08 17:23:41 ---
in my comment #24

delete "- data in xmp" at the end

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--- Comment #29 from Marcel Wiesweg <marcel wiesweg gmx de>  2009-08-01 12:38:56 ---
1)Can you give a concise summary which values you want to have written into
XMP?
2) As to your comments #26 and #27: This relates to any values missing in the
XMP panel in digikam but shown in gwenview? Please send me a sample picture (to
my private mail address, if the file is big)

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--- Comment #30 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-09-03 11:48:02 ---
(In reply to comment #29)
> 1)Can you give a concise summary which values you want to have written into
> XMP?

in comment #18 i review all my needs
in comment #11 you can see (screenshot) what there is in xmp field in jalbum

if it is not enough feel free to ask for me

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--- Comment #31 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-09-03 11:52:48 ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> >date,CreateDate, ModifyDate, DateTimeOriginal
>
> >title, subject, description, Label (tags ?)
>
> All these _tags_ are managed by digiKam to duplicates values from Exif to XMP.
> Just set on the right option in metadata settings panel.
>


yes now they are well duplicated in xmp

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--- Comment #32 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-09-03 11:54:37 ---
(In reply to comment #12)

> >GPSLongitude, GPSLongitudeRef, GPSLatitude, GPSLatitudeRef, GPSAltitude,
> GPSAltitudeRef
>
> For this one, i'm not yet sure...
>
> Gilles Caulier

digikam 1.0.0b4

they are not duplicated

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--- Comment #33 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-09-03 12:05:23 ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> Important : in digiKam there is not option to sync XMP with Exif/Iptc. This is
> what you want ???
>
> Gilles Caulier

it's difficult to define a good gui.

common data between exif, iptc, xmp must be synchronized because i need the
three today (i use picasaweb and jalbum and my still camera still uses exif)

my wish is xmp is the only one i use to manage metadata or perhaps a universal
template to manage metadata and then in the work flow the ability to use exif,
iptc, xmp


if xmp is the

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--- Comment #34 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-09-03 12:06:39 ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> You are talking about copying the whole EXIF data to its corresponding exif:
> namespace in XMP, a sort of "legacy EXIF" -> XMP migration, is it?

yes according to my need with jalbum

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--- Comment #35 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-09-03 12:17:20 ---
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photo about comment #26 and #27

(In reply to comment #29)
> 2) As to your comments #26 and #27: This relates to any values missing in the
> XMP panel in digikam but shown in gwenview? Please send me a sample picture (to
> my private mail address, if the file is big)

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--- Comment #36 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-12-01 12:06:33 ---
digikam 1.0.0rc
kipi-plugins 0.8

same pb : nothing is synchronized to xmp

xmp view is full empty

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--- Comment #37 from Philippe ROUBACH <philippe roubach free fr>  2009-12-06 11:57:07 ---
digikam 1.0.0rc
kipi-plugins 0.9

now i understand the pb

if this is an imported photo in digikam with all exif and iptc data
then nothing is synchronized in xmp

if you imported a photo caption
then
you add caption and keywords
then
all exif and iptc data are synchronized to xmp

it remains a pb : gps data are not synchronized to xmp

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--- Comment #38 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-12-09 11:37:14 ---
I'm suprized. look code from libkexiv2 from trunk :

http://lxr.kde.org/source/KDE/kdegraphics/libs/libkexiv2/libkexiv2/kexiv2gps.cpp#312

In this method, GPS info are written in XMP.

Are you sure that your Exiv2 is compiled with XMP support ? Do you use
libkexiv2 from trunk ?

Gilles Caulier

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