[Bug 152424] New: Workflow organizing and histograms

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[Bug 152424] New: Workflow organizing and histograms

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           Summary: Workflow organizing and histograms
           Product: digikam
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Mandrake RPMs
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: wishlist
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
        AssignedTo: digikam-devel kde org
        ReportedBy: drewbrewit yahoo com


Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.5.7)
Installed from:    Mandrake RPMs
OS:                Linux

Some possible additions to make Digikam more useful to photographers who workflow lots of pictures:

1: Color coding images: allow user to color code images so that he/she can organize images according to workflow. So, for example, an image colored as Blue might mean "edit in GIMP", whereas an image colored Green might mean "send to Web", etc. The color coding does not describe the colors in the image but rather is the color of some indicator (icon, bar, etc.) next to the image that lets the user quickly see what needs to be done to an image and how.

2: Flag: allow user to flag an image in one of three states: Keeper, reject or no flag (default). This provides an easy mechanism to quick find the "keepers" from a shoot of TONS of images.

3: Transparent histogram over image in light table: provide a way for user to view histogram for all images on light table so he/she can pick the best image.

Also, make 1 & 2 above in light table as well.
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[Bug 152424] Workflow organizing and histograms

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           What    |Removed                     |Added
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[Bug 152424] Workflow organizing and histograms

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------- Additional Comments From mikmach wp pl  2007-11-16 21:13 -------
> 1: Color coding images: allow user to color code images so that he/she
> 2: Flag: allow user to flag an image in one of three states: Keeper,
> 3: Transparent histogram over image in light table: provide a way for


1. and 2. are just temporary tags. You can use just normal rating system
for that type of tagging. Sure, nice icons could be nice touch but it is
hardly necessary to do real work.

I am using this non-stop. With additional shortcuts ` for no-rating and
1 for one star and 2 for two stars. 0 would be logical for no-rating
but in this way I can make rating with one hand and navigate with second
hand on mouse. This is very handy especially with recently introduced
quick filtering by rating in status bar.

Although I am partial to color coding, more visible (and recognizable)
than icons. FotoStation colors images according to Urgency metadata tag.

You can view histogram in Light Table by expanding panels, they are
still there. It is not really useful on 5:4 (or 4:3) screens but should
work OK on panoramic.

digiKam parted with transparent histograms some time ago because... Hmm,
I don't want to make up things but I think there were always problems
with drawing them on canvas.
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[Bug 152424] Workflow organizing and histograms

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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-11-16 21:19 -------
Mik,

>digiKam parted with transparent histograms some time ago because... Hmm,
>I don't want to make up things but I think there were always problems
>with drawing them on canvas.

Not only, because it been redundant with the Histogram sidebar tab...

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------- Additional Comments From mikmach wp pl  2007-11-16 21:35 -------
> Not only, because it been redundant with the Histogram sidebar tab...


Of course.
Ad meritum: I think in this scope bug is INVALID. Introducing additional
two ways of tagging when it is  possible to make quick tagging with
existing tools...
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------- Additional Comments From mikmach wp pl  2007-11-21 21:24 -------
I am repeating: IMO this wish is WONTFIX category. First two things you can make with quick and temporary rating, third existed but was replaced. Without protests in next 24h I will close this entry.
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[Bug 152424] Workflow organizing and histograms

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------- Additional Comments From arnd.baecker web de  2007-11-21 21:48 -------
Sorry, I forgot to add my 2cents on this:
1.) additional color code is used, I think, by photoshop (bridge?).
    So it might be not that bad.
    (I remember that I liked it the first time I heard the concept...)

2.) About flagging images: I think that here tags are good enough,
    together with a keyboard short-cuts,
    see bug 114465
   
3.) > Not only, because it been redundant with the Histogram sidebar tab...
   Well, this takes a lot of space. So the idea of transparant
   histograms is not that bad  (it might be difficult to implement,
   but maybe with KDE4 things are simpler?)

So I would suggest to actually file to separate wishes for 1.) and 3.),
and let users vote for them.
(Having several wishes in one bug complicates the discussion a bit ...;-)
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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-11-21 21:50 -------
Mik,

Point1/ is similar than "Label" feature in LightRoom or Imatch. You tag images with a dediced color box. This is not rating, but can be remplaced with special Tags in digiKam

Note than XMP as a dedicaced Tag for that named... Label. I think we can implement it with KDE4 port where DB schema is changed.

Marcel, Arnd, etc... your viewpoints ?

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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-11-21 21:51 -------
Mik,

Point3/ is redondant with Sidebar color tab content. This point is INVALID for me.

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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-11-21 21:53 -------
Mik,

Point2/ is very similar than Rating. This point is INVALID for me.

Still point1/ where something can be done to have a similar env. than pro soft.

I'm waiting comments from team...

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------- Additional Comments From arnd.baecker web de  2007-11-22 10:03 -------
Gilles, ad #6, i.e. point 1/:  "label" feature, sounds like a good concept to me.
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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-11-22 10:16 -------
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Icon view from Adobe Bridge using Color Label Tagging

Marcel,

Look this Adode Bridge screenshot provided by Stephano Rivoir about Color Label
Tagging feature. It's simple to use.

What do you think about ?

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[Bug 152424] Workflow organizing and histograms

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------- Additional Comments From marcel.wiesweg gmx de  2007-11-22 16:45 -------
Well, it's ok, I dont object.
We can use tags to implement it, then it is also simple to implement. The icon view can display a color of a certain tag is assigned. Plus some UI for assigning colors. And some special handling for displaying the tag in some tag views.
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------- Additional Comments From mikmach wp pl  2007-11-22 20:36 -------
> 10:16 ------- Created an attachment (id=22158)
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>  --> (http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=22158&action=view)
> Icon view from Adobe Bridge using Color Label Tagging


That's very similar to FotoStation. In FS photo plates have small menu
embedded with choice of colors. There is also additional filtering
option for that. Note however that FS, and probably Bridge, don't have
digiKam rating system. This is just another type of implementation.
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------- Additional Comments From arnd.baecker web de  2007-11-22 20:52 -------
According to Scott Kelby's "the photoshop CS2 book for digitial photographers"
the bridge has both ratings and color labels.
See http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134206#c7 for a more detailed discussion.
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------- Additional Comments From mikmach wp pl  2007-11-26 23:56 -------
Yes. You are  right. Bridge has colors AND stars. It creates 25 levels
of rating or two separate categories of rating. Interesting visual
solution. Lengthened oval below photo with stars on it

 Photo
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\_______/

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