Are all these processes left behind digikam's fault or KDE's?
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Are all these processes left behind digikam's fault or KDE's?
 
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I just had a problem getting the digikam help up and wondered if it
was running but not visible, so I did a 'ps' to see what was running, aaarrrggghhhh!!! There was masses of stuff. So I exited from digikam to see what was left:- chris 7751 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit Running... chris 7754 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 dcopserver --nosid --suicide chris 7756 7751 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 klauncher [kdeinit] chris 7758 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:01 kded chris 16652 7751 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file chris 16706 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:01 kio_uiserver chris 19220 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit] chris 19223 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:02 khelpcenter help:/digikam?anchor=resizetool.anchor chris 25536 7751 0 15:16 ? 00:00:00 kio_help [kdeinit] help chris 25537 7751 0 15:16 ? 00:00:00 kio_help [kdeinit] help I don't run KDE, I run fvwm as my desktop, should digikam/KDE really leave all this junk behind when I exit? Anyway it probably explains why I couldn't get the digikam help, it thinks it's already there. -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: Are all these processes left behind digikam's fault or KDE's?
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Christ,
yes, it's the KDE env... Gilles 2007/11/27, Chris G <[hidden email]>: I just had a problem getting the digikam help up and wondered if it _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: Are all these processes left behind digikam's fault or KDE's?
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In reply to this post by Chris Green
On Tuesday 27 November 2007, Chris G wrote:
... > chris 7751 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit > Running... chris 7754 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 dcopserver > --nosid --suicide chris 7756 7751 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 > klauncher [kdeinit] chris 7758 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:01 > kded > chris 16652 7751 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:00 kio_file > [kdeinit] file chris 16706 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:01 > kio_uiserver chris 19220 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:00 knotify > [kdeinit] chris 19223 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:02 khelpcenter > help:/digikam?anchor=resizetool.anchor chris 25536 7751 0 15:16 > ? 00:00:00 kio_help [kdeinit] help chris 25537 7751 0 > 15:16 ? 00:00:00 kio_help [kdeinit] help Just parts of the KDE environment - the things that make the entire desktop with all its applications work as a smoothly integrated well oiled machine. You'll find that these parts take up virtually no resources at all; it's a few handfulls of megabytes, probably most of which is demand paged from disk anyway - compared to any modern browser or e-mail reader, the overhead of the processes you mention is negligible. I bet you hadn't noticed them if you hadn't run ps :) > I don't run KDE, I run fvwm as my desktop, KDE is a desktop environment. fvwm is a window manager. Those two are very different systems. A window manager is part of a desktop environment (KDE uses kwin per default - you could change that if you wanted to), but it is not a desktop environment (at least not in the same sense as KDE - I know that one could always argue that these are just different shades of grey). > should digikam/KDE really > leave all this junk behind when I exit? I bet they are left behind because other KDE apps would need them anyway, so it's faster to leave them spawned and idle than to exit/start them. So, despite the fact that it may look wasteful to have a few processes sitting idle on your system, it may well be the most efficient thing to do. > Anyway it probably explains > why I couldn't get the digikam help, it thinks it's already there. This sounds unlikely in my ears. -- Best regards, Jakob Oestergaard [The SysOrb Team] _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: Are all these processes left behind digikam's fault or KDE's?
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:48:03AM +0100, Jakob Østergaard wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 November 2007, Chris G wrote: > ... > > chris 7751 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit > > Running... chris 7754 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 dcopserver > > --nosid --suicide chris 7756 7751 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:00 > > klauncher [kdeinit] chris 7758 1 0 Nov25 ? 00:00:01 > > kded > > chris 16652 7751 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:00 kio_file > > [kdeinit] file chris 16706 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:01 > > kio_uiserver chris 19220 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:00 knotify > > [kdeinit] chris 19223 1 0 Nov26 ? 00:00:02 khelpcenter > > help:/digikam?anchor=resizetool.anchor chris 25536 7751 0 15:16 > > ? 00:00:00 kio_help [kdeinit] help chris 25537 7751 0 > > 15:16 ? 00:00:00 kio_help [kdeinit] help > > Just parts of the KDE environment - the things that make the entire > desktop with all its applications work as a smoothly integrated well > oiled machine. > > You'll find that these parts take up virtually no resources at all; it's > a few handfulls of megabytes, probably most of which is demand paged > from disk anyway - compared to any modern browser or e-mail reader, the > overhead of the processes you mention is negligible. > > I bet you hadn't noticed them if you hadn't run ps :) > 'infelicity' in the KDE environment that lost my digikam help. > > I don't run KDE, I run fvwm as my desktop, > > KDE is a desktop environment. > > fvwm is a window manager. > > Those two are very different systems. A window manager is part of a > desktop environment (KDE uses kwin per default - you could change that > if you wanted to), but it is not a desktop environment (at least not in > the same sense as KDE - I know that one could always argue that these > are just different shades of grey). > installation I have a mostly gnome environment, I even run the gnome-panel on my fvwm desktop sometimes. I have the KDE libraries installed because of the occasional KDE application I want to run, at the moment I think digikam is the only one. > > should digikam/KDE really > > leave all this junk behind when I exit? > > I bet they are left behind because other KDE apps would need them > anyway, so it's faster to leave them spawned and idle than to > exit/start them. > ... but I don't run any other KDE apps. :-) > So, despite the fact that it may look wasteful to have a few processes > sitting idle on your system, it may well be the most efficient thing to > do. > > > Anyway it probably explains > > why I couldn't get the digikam help, it thinks it's already there. > > This sounds unlikely in my ears. > Well I certainly got my digikam help back when I stopped all the KDE stuff and then restarted digikam. I suspect that khelpcenter that was running fooled digikam into thinking it was already visible, which it wasn't. I'm not so worried by the resources which all the KDE bits and pieces take up as the likelihood that they will cause problems like the one I saw where an application *thought* it had displayed its help but hadn't really done so. Whatever, it's not really digikam's problem, it's KDE's. Though it does worry me slightly how applications (not just digikam) become *so* dependent on a particular environment that they won't work in any other. Digikam does pretty well, I didn't even realise it was a KDE application for a while (well, its name doesn't start with k does it!), this problem with its help is the only significant one I have seen. -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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