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Albums on USB and the database

Graham Dicker
I am using Digikam 0.10.0 on SUSE 11.1 with albums on an external USB drive
and the database on the internal hard drive. If I forget to turn the USB drive
on before running Digikam then it removes all the captions and probably other
things from the database and I have to restore the database from backup. I
don't want to store the captions in the photo files. Is there a sensible way
to deal with this problem? Should I store the database on the USB drive as
well? Or maybe there's a way to move the collection from "Local Collections"
to "Collections on removable media" and if so would that solve the problem? Or
something else?

Thanks in advance

Graham Dicker
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Re: Albums on USB and the database

Bartek Pietrasiak
I keep the db and the collection on external usb drive and it works fine.
I think that you can select some other dir on your external drive as a "Collections on removable media" and move all pictures there.

R.,
Bartek

2010/12/20 Graham Dicker <[hidden email]>
I am using Digikam 0.10.0 on SUSE 11.1 with albums on an external USB drive
and the database on the internal hard drive. If I forget to turn the USB drive
on before running Digikam then it removes all the captions and probably other
things from the database and I have to restore the database from backup. I
don't want to store the captions in the photo files. Is there a sensible way
to deal with this problem? Should I store the database on the USB drive as
well? Or maybe there's a way to move the collection from "Local Collections"
to "Collections on removable media" and if so would that solve the problem? Or
something else?

Thanks in advance

Graham Dicker
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Re: Albums on USB and the database

Bugzilla from rogersjd@gmail.com
Along the lines of what Bartek said, I notice that in the settings the photo dir can be selected as external media or not. Is it likely that this setting is what is supposed to prevent your situation?

I also keep the db on the usb drive, but I have been thinking of moving it to the main drive along with one working album for 'sorting'.
JDR

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Bartek Pietrasiak <[hidden email]> wrote:
I keep the db and the collection on external usb drive and it works fine.
I think that you can select some other dir on your external drive as a "Collections on removable media" and move all pictures there.

R.,
Bartek

2010/12/20 Graham Dicker <[hidden email]>

I am using Digikam 0.10.0 on SUSE 11.1 with albums on an external USB drive
and the database on the internal hard drive. If I forget to turn the USB drive
on before running Digikam then it removes all the captions and probably other
things from the database and I have to restore the database from backup. I
don't want to store the captions in the photo files. Is there a sensible way
to deal with this problem? Should I store the database on the USB drive as
well? Or maybe there's a way to move the collection from "Local Collections"
to "Collections on removable media" and if so would that solve the problem? Or
something else?

Thanks in advance

Graham Dicker
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Re: Albums on USB and the database

Bugzilla from rogersjd@gmail.com
In reply to this post by Bartek Pietrasiak
Along the lines of what Bartek said, I notice that in the settings the photo dir can be selected as external media or not. Is it likely that this setting is what is supposed to prevent your situation?

I also keep the db on the usb drive, but I have been thinking of moving it to the main drive along with one working album for 'sorting'.
JDR

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Bartek Pietrasiak <[hidden email]> wrote:
I keep the db and the collection on external usb drive and it works fine.
I think that you can select some other dir on your external drive as a "Collections on removable media" and move all pictures there.

R.,
Bartek

2010/12/20 Graham Dicker <[hidden email]>

I am using Digikam 0.10.0 on SUSE 11.1 with albums on an external USB drive
and the database on the internal hard drive. If I forget to turn the USB drive
on before running Digikam then it removes all the captions and probably other
things from the database and I have to restore the database from backup. I
don't want to store the captions in the photo files. Is there a sensible way
to deal with this problem? Should I store the database on the USB drive as
well? Or maybe there's a way to move the collection from "Local Collections"
to "Collections on removable media" and if so would that solve the problem? Or
something else?

Thanks in advance

Graham Dicker
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Re: Albums on USB and the database

Marcel Wiesweg
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> Along the lines of what Bartek said, I notice that in the settings the
> photo dir can be selected as external media or not. Is it likely that this
> setting is what is supposed to prevent your situation?
>
> I also keep the db on the usb drive, but I have been thinking of moving it
> to the main drive along with one working album for 'sorting'.
> JDR

Normally, there is no difference on which buttons you click because it's
possible to auto-detect if a drive is removable or not (currently not possible
for network shares, so that button make a difference).
Please note that the original poster is running a very old version, so I
cannot say anything about that case. It is possible that the collection is
referenced by mount path instead of partition UUID, in which case the pictures
would be seen as removed when the harddisk is missing. But even then, the
database entries are not deleted immediately, if you replug soon and start
digikam again, they will be recognized. Best way is probably to add a
"removable" collection now and copy the files from within digikam.
Of course, there were bugs in the past and there'll still be problems in some
situations (Windows? Mac? cross-platform network share)
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Re: Albums on USB and the database

Graham Dicker
On Thursday 23 December 2010 13:57:23 Marcel Wiesweg wrote:
> > Along the lines of what Bartek said, I notice that in the settings the
> > photo dir can be selected as external media or not. Is it likely that
> > this setting is what is supposed to prevent your situation?

I wasn't aware of the removable drive option when I first installed digikam
and now I cannot find an option for changing it from Local to Removable. But
it may not work on my version anyway because if I create a collection (call it
Abcdef) using the removable media button then when I next go into settings the
Abcdef collection is  listed under Local collections and captions still
disappear if I run digikam with the Abcdef drive removed.

> >
> > I also keep the db on the usb drive, but I have been thinking of moving
> > it to the main drive along with one working album for 'sorting'.
> > JDR

I have a temporary work-around at the moment which is to turn off "Scan for
new item at startup" but I would be happy to move the database to the
removable drive if by doing so I retain the captions.

>
> Normally, there is no difference on which buttons you click because it's
> possible to auto-detect if a drive is removable or not (currently not
> possible for network shares, so that button make a difference).
> Please note that the original poster is running a very old version, so I
> cannot say anything about that case.

Could I upgrade while still keeping the same OS version (SUSE 11.1)?

> It is possible that the collection is
> referenced by mount path instead of partition UUID, in which case the
> pictures would be seen as removed when the harddisk is missing.

Yes it is referenced by mount path

> But even
> then, the database entries are not deleted immediately, if you replug soon
> and start digikam again, they will be recognized. Best way is probably to
> add a "removable" collection now and copy the files from within digikam.

See comment above re adding removable collections not working.

> Of
> course, there were bugs in the past and there'll still be problems in some
> situations (Windows? Mac? cross-platform network share)

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Re: Albums on USB and the database

Marcel Wiesweg

> I wasn't aware of the removable drive option when I first installed digikam
> and now I cannot find an option for changing it from Local to Removable.
> But it may not work on my version anyway because if I create a collection
> (call it Abcdef) using the removable media button then when I next go into
> settings the Abcdef collection is  listed under Local collections and
> captions still disappear if I run digikam with the Abcdef drive removed.

Then there's probably something deeper broken, we get hardware information
from KDE Solid which reads it from HAL (udev in the future), so if HAL fails,
digikam is blind.

> Could I upgrade while still keeping the same OS version (SUSE 11.1)?

Can't tell you if there's a working package. If anyone has packaged digikam on
the build service, probably.
Note: We are at 1.7 now, seven versions after 0.10.0.
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Re: Albums on USB and the database

Graham Dicker
On Thursday 23 December 2010 17:16:27 Marcel Wiesweg wrote:

> > I wasn't aware of the removable drive option when I first installed
> > digikam and now I cannot find an option for changing it from Local to
> > Removable. But it may not work on my version anyway because if I create a
> > collection (call it Abcdef) using the removable media button then when I
> > next go into settings the Abcdef collection is  listed under Local
> > collections and captions still disappear if I run digikam with the Abcdef
> > drive removed.
>
> Then there's probably something deeper broken, we get hardware information
> from KDE Solid which reads it from HAL (udev in the future), so if HAL
> fails, digikam is blind.
>
> > Could I upgrade while still keeping the same OS version (SUSE 11.1)?
>
> Can't tell you if there's a working package. If anyone has packaged digikam
> on the build service, probably.
> Note: We are at 1.7 now, seven versions after 0.10.0.
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Thank you for your advice. I have installed another drive in my workstation
with openSUSE 11.3 on it. This comes with digikam 1.2.0 which appears to
behave as I want with regard to preserving captions when renaming images and
albums. However, I cannot find any instructions on how to migrate databases. I
tried using the old 0.10.0 database file with the new version, and it didn't
crash or object and it showed my tags but it isn't showing any thumbnails and
the menu options for adding new images and regenerating thumbnails don't do
anything.

More advice sought please!

Graham Dicker

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