4.10 and 4.12 thumbnail filmstrip behavior

[Elle Stone-2]

Hi all,

Recently I upgraded to digiKam 4.12, and after a few days downgraded to
4.10 because 4.12 introduced a feature that makes it cumbersome to
review images.

When a thumbnail is clicked, the selected image takes up most of the
center space between the panels, and a "filmstrip" appears, allowing to
select another image to fill the center space. If it's relevant, I put
the filmstrip vertically between the center image and the right panel.

In 4.10, when you click on a thumbnail, the selected thumbnail in the
filmstrip keeps its relative position in the window. So if the selected
thumbnail is at the bottom of the filmstrip, that image appears in the
larger space, and the selected thumbnail stays at the bottom of the
filmstrip. And likewise if the selected thumbnail is at the top or
middle of the filmstrip.

In 4.12, clicking on a thumbnail in the filmstrip recenters that
thumbnail in the middle of the filmstrip.

The 4.12 "automatic filmstrip recentering" makes it difficult to
alternately select one of, say, two or three or four images that are
nearby in the filmstrip, for reviewing in the center space, because the
place to click to get back to a previously view image changes with every
click.

Is there a setting in 4.12 that makes the 4.12 filmstrip behavior match
4.10? So that in 4.12 clicking on a thumbnail in the filmstrip doesn't
recenter that thumbnail in the middle of the filmstrip?

Best regards,
Elle
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[Maik Qualmann]

Hi Elle,

this feature (scroll current item in the thumbbar to center) was desired by
some users. We will make this feature in the next relase of digiKam (4.14.0)
in the settings configurable.

Maik

Am Sonntag, 13. September 2015, 06:43:40 schrieb Elle Stone:

> Hi all,
>
> Recently I upgraded to digiKam 4.12, and after a few days downgraded to
> 4.10 because 4.12 introduced a feature that makes it cumbersome to
> review images.
>
> When a thumbnail is clicked, the selected image takes up most of the
> center space between the panels, and a "filmstrip" appears, allowing to
> select another image to fill the center space. If it's relevant, I put
> the filmstrip vertically between the center image and the right panel.
>
> In 4.10, when you click on a thumbnail, the selected thumbnail in the
> filmstrip keeps its relative position in the window. So if the selected
> thumbnail is at the bottom of the filmstrip, that image appears in the
> larger space, and the selected thumbnail stays at the bottom of the
> filmstrip. And likewise if the selected thumbnail is at the top or
> middle of the filmstrip.
>
> In 4.12, clicking on a thumbnail in the filmstrip recenters that
> thumbnail in the middle of the filmstrip.
>
> The 4.12 "automatic filmstrip recentering" makes it difficult to
> alternately select one of, say, two or three or four images that are
> nearby in the filmstrip, for reviewing in the center space, because the
> place to click to get back to a previously view image changes with every
> click.
>
> Is there a setting in 4.12 that makes the 4.12 filmstrip behavior match
> 4.10? So that in 4.12 clicking on a thumbnail in the filmstrip doesn't
> recenter that thumbnail in the middle of the filmstrip?
>
> Best regards,
> Elle
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[Elle Stone-2]

On 09/14/2015 06:30 AM, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> this feature (scroll current item in the thumbbar to center) was desired by
> some users. We will make this feature in the next relase of digiKam (4.14.0)
> in the settings configurable.

Maik, thanks! Many thanks!

Elle

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[Peter Mc Donough]

Am 13.09.2015 um 12:43 schrieb Elle Stone:
> ...
> When a thumbnail is clicked, the selected image takes up most of the
> center space between the panels, and a "filmstrip" appears, allowing to
> select another image to fill the center space. If it's relevant, I put
> the filmstrip vertically between the center image and the right panel.
>

Hi,

Filmstrip vertically?
I've missed this feature. How is it activated?

cu
Peter

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[Elle Stone-2]

On 09/14/2015 08:03 AM, Peter Mc Donough wrote:

> Am 13.09.2015 um 12:43 schrieb Elle Stone:
>> ...
>> When a thumbnail is clicked, the selected image takes up most of the
>> center space between the panels, and a "filmstrip" appears, allowing to
>> select another image to fill the center space. If it's relevant, I put
>> the filmstrip vertically between the center image and the right panel.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> Filmstrip vertically?
> I've missed this feature. How is it activated?
>

It defaults to being horizontal at the top. But you can detach it/drag
it by grabbing the "double lines" at one end using the mouse, to make it
"free floating", and then reposition it where you want it in the
interface. It's a bit tricky to describe and fiddly to get it to "grab"
back into the place you want, but it does work.

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[Peter Mc Donough]

Am 14.09.2015 um 14:53 schrieb Elle Stone:
> On 09/14/2015 08:03 AM, Peter Mc Donough wrote:
>> Am 13.09.2015 um 12:43 schrieb Elle Stone:

>>> ...I put
>>> the filmstrip vertically between the center image and the right panel.
>> ...
>> Filmstrip vertically?
>> I've missed this feature. How is it activated?
>>
>
> It defaults to being horizontal at the top. But you can detach it/drag
> it by grabbing the "double lines" at one end using the mouse, to make it
> "free floating", and then reposition it where you want it in the
> interface. It's a bit tricky to describe and fiddly to get it to "grab"
> back into the place you want, but it does work.

I did it! Great. Thank you.

I wonder why it is not selectable in digikam's settings?

cu
Peter


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[Stuart T Rogers]

Elle

That is cool and I think it is a much better place for it as I have a
much larger preview image with it on the RH side as I dont usually have
the metadata etc side panel showing when viewing these.

Stuart

On 14/09/15 13:53, Elle Stone wrote:
>
> It defaults to being horizontal at the top. But you can detach it/drag
> it by grabbing the "double lines" at one end using the mouse, to make it
> "free floating", and then reposition it where you want it in the
> interface. It's a bit tricky to describe and fiddly to get it to "grab"
> back into the place you want, but it does work.

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One thing is missing in the filmstrip, that used to be there: the little green triangle indicating the picture displayed on the right; the left one is still there, but the right one seems to have disappeared.

And one thing I would like very much to see is the Digikam status or whatever its name (rejected/pending/accepted); the red/yellow/green flags would be very much appreciated.

Thanks for considering this useful addition.

Marie-Noëlle

2015-09-14 17:48 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]>:

Elle

That is cool and I think it is a much better place for it as I have a much larger preview image with it on the RH side as I dont usually have the metadata etc side panel showing when viewing these.

Stuart

On 14/09/15 13:53, Elle Stone wrote:

It defaults to being horizontal at the top. But you can detach it/drag
it by grabbing the "double lines" at one end using the mouse, to make it
"free floating", and then reposition it where you want it in the
interface. It's a bit tricky to describe and fiddly to get it to "grab"
back into the place you want, but it does work.

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2015-09-14 18:33 GMT+02:00 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>:

One thing is missing in the filmstrip, that used to be there: the little green triangle indicating the picture displayed on the right; the left one is still there, but the right one seems to have disappeared.

Hi MN

You talk certainly about Light Table thumbbar. Not reproducible here...

 

And one thing I would like very much to see is the Digikam status or whatever its name (rejected/pending/accepted); the red/yellow/green flags would be very much appreciated.

Thanks for considering this useful addition.

To show all Labels over thumbbar thumbnails everywhere. Right ?

I think we have already some entries in bugzilla about this topic into 'digiKam/thumbnails' section. Please check and comment if necessary...

Gilles Caulier

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2015-09-14 19:10 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:

2015-09-14 18:33 GMT+02:00 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>:

One thing is missing in the filmstrip, that used to be there: the little green triangle indicating the picture displayed on the right; the left one is still there, but the right one seems to have disappeared.

Hi MN

You talk certainly about Light Table thumbbar. Not reproducible here...

Screencopy here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/89vy1ikpj3eka0h/Lighttable-left-only.jpg?dl=0

Left image is the first on the left, as shown by little green triangle. Could you tell me which image is on the right? :-)

Too bad, this worked very well in previous versions; now, I'm completely lost when trying to select among twenty similar images or so...

 

 

And one thing I would like very much to see is the Digikam status or whatever its name (rejected/pending/accepted); the red/yellow/green flags would be very much appreciated.

Thanks for considering this useful addition.

To show all Labels over thumbbar thumbnails everywhere. Right ?

It would be very useful in the lightable. Currently I'm obliged to use the star rating to select the pictures to reject/keep as the flags are not visible.

And it would very useful on the thumbnails on the main screen too.

 

I think we have already some entries in bugzilla about this topic into 'digiKam/thumbnails' section. Please check and comment if necessary...

Will do.

Marie-Noëlle

 

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2015-09-14 20:05 GMT+02:00 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>:

2015-09-14 19:10 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:

2015-09-14 18:33 GMT+02:00 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>:

One thing is missing in the filmstrip, that used to be there: the little green triangle indicating the picture displayed on the right; the left one is still there, but the right one seems to have disappeared.

Hi MN

You talk certainly about Light Table thumbbar. Not reproducible here...

Screencopy here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/89vy1ikpj3eka0h/Lighttable-left-only.jpg?dl=0

Left image is the first on the left, as shown by little green triangle. Could you tell me which image is on the right? :-)

Look the filename on the status bar, on the right side.

 

Too bad, this worked very well in previous versions; now, I'm completely lost when trying to select among twenty similar images or so...

I cannot reproduce the dysfunction here... strange.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/digikam/21426125751/in/dateposted-public/

Gilles

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2015-09-14 20:28 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:

2015-09-14 20:05 GMT+02:00 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>:

Screencopy here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/89vy1ikpj3eka0h/Lighttable-left-only.jpg?dl=0

Left image is the first on the left, as shown by little green triangle. Could you tell me which image is on the right? :-)

Look the filename on the status bar, on the right side.

Then what? This doesn't point to the right thumbnail, does it. You need to hover over each thumbnail to find the right one...

 

 

Too bad, this worked very well in previous versions; now, I'm completely lost when trying to select among twenty similar images or so...

I cannot reproduce the dysfunction here... strange.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/digikam/21426125751/in/dateposted-public/

I wonder whether it could partially hidden (I think I can see a tiny green point instead of the full triangle) but why, and by what?

Marie-Noëlle

 

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And one thing I would like very much to see is the Digikam status or whatever its name (rejected/pending/accepted); the red/yellow/green flags would be very much appreciated.

Thanks for considering this useful addition.

To show all Labels over thumbbar thumbnails everywhere. Right ?

It would be very useful in the lightable. Currently I'm obliged to use the star rating to select the pictures to reject/keep as the flags are not visible.

And it would very useful on the thumbnails on the main screen too.

 

I think we have already some entries in bugzilla about this topic into 'digiKam/thumbnails' section. Please check and comment if necessary...

There doesn't seem to be anything related there: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Thumbnails&product=digikam

or did I search in the wrong place?

Marie-Noëlle

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> Screencopy here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/89vy1ikpj3eka0h/Lighttable-left-only.jpg?dl=0
> Left image is the first on the left, as shown by little green triangle.
> Could you tell me which image is on the right? :-)

When I see it right, missing top in the toolbar also the symbol of right.
Corrupted icon package installed or corrupted icon cache from KDE?

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2015-09-14 21:58 GMT+02:00 Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]>:

> Screencopy here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/89vy1ikpj3eka0h/Lighttable-left-only.jpg?dl=0
> Left image is the first on the left, as shown by little green triangle.
> Could you tell me which image is on the right? :-)

When I see it right, missing top in the toolbar also the symbol of right.
Corrupted icon package installed or corrupted icon cache from KDE?

Maik

You're right: the symbol doesn't show in the toolbar... but it appears when I hover with the mouse!

So the icon is here, but some program behavior seems to prevent it to be displayed.

Marie-Noëlle

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Additionnally, a 'kind' of right arrow is barely visible (looks like a > symbol) when the corresponding thumbnail is in portrait mode: in that case, the symbol is visible in the border. In case the picture is in landscape mode, it is 'lost' in the picture.

Marie-Noëlle

2015-09-14 22:22 GMT+02:00 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[hidden email]>:

2015-09-14 21:58 GMT+02:00 Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]>:

> Screencopy here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/89vy1ikpj3eka0h/Lighttable-left-only.jpg?dl=0
> Left image is the first on the left, as shown by little green triangle.
> Could you tell me which image is on the right? :-)

When I see it right, missing top in the toolbar also the symbol of right.
Corrupted icon package installed or corrupted icon cache from KDE?

Maik

You're right: the symbol doesn't show in the toolbar... but it appears when I hover with the mouse!

So the icon is here, but some program behavior seems to prevent it to be displayed.

Marie-Noëlle

   

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Try it:

del /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER/icon-cache.kcache
logout / login KDE

Maik

Am Montag, 14. September 2015, 22:35:59 schrieb Marie-Noëlle Augendre:
> Additionnally, a 'kind' of right arrow is barely visible (looks like a >
> symbol) when the corresponding thumbnail is in portrait mode: in that case,
> the symbol is visible in the border. In case the picture is in landscape
> mode, it is 'lost' in the picture.

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Why? As I previously said, the icon exists.

Marie-Noëlle

2015-09-14 22:51 GMT+02:00 Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]>:

Try it:

del /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER/icon-cache.kcache
logout / login KDE

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Am Montag, 14. September 2015, 22:35:59 schrieb Marie-Noëlle Augendre:
> Additionnally, a 'kind' of right arrow is barely visible (looks like a >
> symbol) when the corresponding thumbnail is in portrait mode: in that case,
> the symbol is visible in the border. In case the picture is in landscape
> mode, it is 'lost' in the picture.

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